Get out and VOTE

by Kaalak

Back to The Real World.

Noola2008-11-06 17:24:00
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I had to explain why I was laughing so hard. You get weird looks when the answer is, "Stick figures really aren't anatomically correct at all."
Daganev2008-11-06 17:55:22
QUOTE(Yrael @ Nov 6 2008, 06:28 AM) 579813
You don't understand, Noola.

It undermines the fabric of society, because those godless heathens are teaching kids it is okay to be gay in schools and that two men or two women married are normal rather than dirty and filthy and something to be looked down upon, those hellbound dykes and sodom dwelling fags. They're undermining society itself! What the hell is wrong with you? You need to read more from Daganev. He knows what he's talking about.


Thank you for once again NOT READING What I actually say.

Thank you once again for projecting your stereotypes onto real people. I really appreciate it.

I have repeatedly said, again and again, that marriage, is a term that refers to the union of Husband and Wife. Husbands are male, wives are female.

Civil unions, domestic partners, are all great, and are all equal under the law.

You want to stop calling it marriage and just call it civil unions, well then thats fine with me!

I don't care what the state calls my tax status, I really don't, and I don't get why others do.

There is nothing stopping gay people from going and around and demanding that the people they interact with on a daily basis call them married. There is nothing stopping people from saying, "Hi, this is my spouse", or asking to be called Mr. and Mr. Smith.

In other parts of the world, or other parts of the country, I can understand people being confused and upset about the proposition, but in California, I just don't get it.


And Lastly, we have no idea what type of affect teaching same sex coupling to 5 year olds does to people or society. We have no idea if its going to increase the number of children who when teaching themselves about their own bodies get confused about their own feelings. We don't know what affect it will have on birthrates, and family structures etc. So to assume that you know that nothing is going to happen, is really just being dishonest, because the truth is, that we have no idea how these affect people. (But we do know that what children experience sexually at a young age, will greatly affect how they view sexuality for the rest of their lives. So to suggest that there is no danger at all, is just not true)
Unknown2008-11-06 18:04:32
Personally, I don't think a wedding of any sort is an appropriate field trip for school kids anyway. That's the sort of educational territory that should be left up to partents and family, not mandated by a public institution.
Daganev2008-11-06 18:05:14
QUOTE(Aerotan @ Nov 6 2008, 04:24 AM) 579806
I think the avatars help all three of those images...


sad.gif Nobody understand all the kings men...

People really need to read that book (or at-least watch the movie, or even better compromise is listen to the book on tape)

ahh, the great sleep, how I miss you!
Daganev2008-11-06 18:07:16
QUOTE(Rainydays @ Nov 6 2008, 10:04 AM) 579859
Personally, I don't think a wedding of any sort is an appropriate field trip for school kids anyway. That's the sort of educational territory that should be left up to partents and family, not mandated by a public institution.


interesting.

I grew up with many mock weddings, (though we never did go on a fieldtrip to one, we just did our own at the park near the school)

Is that not normal, or are you just thinking that schools shouldn't do those anymore?
Noola2008-11-06 18:09:02
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 6 2008, 12:07 PM) 579862
interesting.

I grew up with many mock weddings, (though we never did go on a fieldtrip to one, we just did our own at the park near the school)

Is that not normal, or are you just thinking that schools shouldn't do those anymore?



You're being facetious again, aren't you? laugh.gif Aren't you? unsure.gif
Unknown2008-11-06 18:15:14
I am suddenly reminded of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMJqApRNXfw
Yrael2008-11-06 20:45:38
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 7 2008, 04:55 AM) 579855
Thank you for once again NOT READING What I actually say.

Thank you once again for projecting your stereotypes onto real people. I really appreciate it.

I have repeatedly said, again and again, that marriage, is a term that refers to the union of Husband and Wife. Husbands are male, wives are female.

Now, Daganev, how on earth could I not? After all, I learned from the best. Let's face it, empty rhetoric IS one of your specialties. Half of what you post has already been posted, and the other half is, as far as I can tell, in the very hard to understand and technical language of "Moon speak."


QUOTE(Saran @ Nov 7 2008, 01:54 AM) 579817
Funny that sodom is brought up, even christians have said that the story actually has nothing against homosexuality in it.

The site I read actually said Inhospitality was the sin that got sodom squished.

http://www.gaychristian101.com/Sodom.html
Two schools of thought on that, and a lot of it depends on what version of the bible you read and your own personal outlook. I seem to remember homosexuality being mentioned a few times in the lead up. I'm not really in the mood to dig through my bible at the moment, though, so you're on your own until I'm slightly more awake.


Daganev2008-11-06 21:08:36
The story of sodom has little to do with homosexuality. I really have no idea why its called sodomy. I had always thought it was because in sodom, they treated people poorly, outlawed charity etc, and almost killed Lot for having guests stay in his house, and so I thought it was just a turn on the phrase of "shove it up your..."

The aftermath of sodom however had some incest, and the story of noah talks about being caused by homosexuality amongst the animals, (which is why I always found the rainbow choice, ironic)

wikipedia however says that sodomy and sodom are connected because they translate the verse "bring out your guests so that we may know them" to mean that they wanted to be with them sexually, rather than interrogate them. But I think that's a miss translation.
Saran2008-11-06 23:18:08
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 7 2008, 08:08 AM) 579890
wikipedia however says that sodomy and sodom are connected because they translate the verse "bring out your guests so that we may know them" to mean that they wanted to be with them sexually, rather than interrogate them. But I think that's a miss translation.


Interestingly I actually read something that compared that to beastiality not homosexuality because angels are not human, so even if "know" was implying mudsecks.


As to quoting gaychristian, while true that the website seems aimed at helping people who want to believe in the bible while being who they are I only quoted it because I couldn't find the original website... Oooh it might have been religeoustolerance.org (gogo google)

edit: found it http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibg.htm
Daganev2008-11-06 23:42:29
QUOTE(Saran @ Nov 6 2008, 03:18 PM) 579940
Interestingly I actually read something that compared that to beastiality not homosexuality because angels are not human, so even if "know" was implying mudsecks.



... that's not a very good interpretation because nobody knew they were non human.

However, just to prove the point (about sodom), I'll quote this old saying:

QUOTE
There are four types among people:

He who says, "What is mine is mine and what is yours is yours"--this is the common type, though some say that this is the type of Sodom.
He who says, "What is mine is yours and what is yours is mine"--he is an ignorant man.
He who says, "What is mine is yours and what is yours is your own"--he is a saintly man.
And he who says, "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine"--he is a wicked man.


Sodom is a place mentioned in the Bible. The people who lived there were very selfish and were considered to be very bad.
Yrael2008-11-07 00:11:34
The "We want to rape the angels!" "No, have my daughters, they're virgins!" "NO ANGEL SEX NOW." was the breaking point, though.

And I did find something from Genesis 18:16 onwards. Keep in mind though, my bible is military issue, and therefore made of 100% crazy.
Unknown2008-11-07 00:15:52
QUOTE(Yrael @ Nov 7 2008, 12:11 AM) 579962
The "We want to rape the angels!" "No, have my daughters, they're virgins!" "NO ANGEL SEX NOW." was the breaking point, though.

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Noola2008-11-07 04:19:05
Shaddus2008-11-07 04:21:40
When in doubt, John 3:17 answers all questions.

Yes, that's right.
Unknown2008-11-07 04:28:25
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 6 2008, 04:08 PM) 579890
The story of sodom has little to do with homosexuality. I really have no idea why its called sodomy. I had always thought it was because in sodom, they treated people poorly, outlawed charity etc, and almost killed Lot for having guests stay in his house, and so I thought it was just a turn on the phrase of "shove it up your..."

The aftermath of sodom however had some incest, and the story of noah talks about being caused by homosexuality amongst the animals, (which is why I always found the rainbow choice, ironic)

wikipedia however says that sodomy and sodom are connected because they translate the verse "bring out your guests so that we may know them" to mean that they wanted to be with them sexually, rather than interrogate them. But I think that's a miss translation.



False:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0r7syc1BSg
Yrael2008-11-07 04:29:40
QUOTE(Shaddus Mes @ Nov 7 2008, 03:21 PM) 580030
When in doubt, John 3:17 answers all questions.

Yes, that's right.

Yeah.

All the other :censor: he does is to condemn them. And the whole judgement, the book of life, that is when it is God's time to shine. Each morning, Raphael and Michael spend an hour polishing God's "judgement rod".

God enjoys this. They do not.
Noola2008-11-07 04:37:23
QUOTE(Deschain @ Nov 6 2008, 10:28 PM) 580031



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That's funny!
Shaddus2008-11-07 04:43:25
QUOTE(Yrael @ Nov 6 2008, 10:29 PM) 580032
Yeah.

All the other censor.gif he does is to condemn them. And the whole judgement, the book of life, that is when it is God's time to shine. Each morning, Raphael and Michael spend an hour polishing God's "judgement rod".

God enjoys this. They do not.

Don't blame Jesus because many of the people who follow him are idiots.
Casilu2008-11-07 04:50:12
QUOTE(Shaddus Mes @ Nov 6 2008, 08:43 PM) 580034
Don't blame Jesus because many of the people who follow him are idiots.


It'd be kinda like saying people are unfit to be President because they were able to be elected president.