I'm Edgar, btw.

heh, Chilvary my tuchus...

Mod note: Mod agrees with Arix. That WAS pretty awesome.

That is all.

good writing, bad results.

1:Rika
2:Arix - confirmed Edgar (?) - Chainsaw daykill.
3:Myrkr - claimed Biggs (town) - Mason with Wedge (deceased).
4:Daganev
5:Kiradawea
6:Amarysse
7:Thiden
8:Krin - reliable Mog (town) - Investigator & ability to change Umaro's vote.
9:Aerotan
10:Casilu - confirmed Strago (deceased town) - Mason with Relm.
11:Dugan
12:Silvanus - ? - claimed 50% chance of targetted abilities failing.
13:Esano
14:Celina - confirmed Celes (deceased town) - Protector ability.
15:Silferras - confirmed Wedge (deceased town) - Mason with Biggs.
16:Ilyarin

I'm really tempted to suggest a mass claim at this point, since we have 3 or 4 names that can be verified, in addition to what we allready have.

especially since we lost our protector, and we know who our tracker is.

Unvote. He claimed, and people more familiar with FF than me seem to think it's an OK claim.

I can claim and prove it if I need to. Not sure a mass-claim would help us - is there any guarantee specific names are town or scum?

No, but we can discern from powers who might be scum.

Won't a mass claim just highlight people with stronger skills for the scum to pick off since, as you said, we have no protector? Also, we are only going off of you as for Arix's town loyalties.

Not sure. Bed time now.

FoS Arix, maybe Daganev.

I'm happy to claim, but I'd rather do it tomorrow.

Umm, I think our stronger skills have already been picked off...

Meh. Mass claims are generally bad.

That was a dumb move by Arix. However, since there are people with more knowledge of this than me who think he is town, I'll go with that.

Well we've lost our masons and a protector. I think there are still potentially strong powers out and about.

Ok, let me put this another way.

there are 4 people who I know are town, but I don't know who they are yet.

It would be nice to have all these people claim, so we can have some assurance and confidence in our solid voting block, and that way we can narrow down who the scum are.

So instead of a mass claim, I guess we just need a few specific people to claim.

i.e., Umaro, Relm, and somebody else I'll mention later if we think its a good idea.

Nothing is stronger than investigating and protecting.

Ok, let me put this another way... I'm not really suggesting a mass claim, what I'm suggesting is that 4 people reveal themselves to everyone, so that we can have a nice large voting block.

I'm not sure about people revealing roles, honestly, having lost Celina. We don't know what powers these four people might have, and if they claim, and turn out to be useful, who's going to protect them?

Asking for them to reveal themselves sounds a bit sketchy to me, when it's already been said we're short a protector, and our investigator is either mute or MIA.

whats the harm in revealing their which person goes with the name? Its really the only chance we have right now of forming enough of a mass to weed out the scum.

Mod: Krin isn't silenced, I think he either ragequit, or merely hasn't been able to be here. However, the show must go on. There's no pausing this game. If he's not here in 24 hours, Day or Night, he's dead, or someone can replace him.

pleae replace him, its not fare to have him killed. (well maybe it is)

1. Do we have an investigator, or another way to confirm that all of these people are who they say they are?
2. Do we have someone to protect them if they are?
3. Why do you need a "bloc" of some sort to vote? Those on the side of the town will vote with the town, and those who aren't, won't.

If people wish to volunteer their information, that's fine, but I don't agree with a mass roleclaim, or calling for one. Without any obvious defenses, and no apparent way to confirm roles, I'm not convinced it's a good idea. People could claim nearly anything, and how would we know the difference? Besides, we know there are mafia out there, and some of the abilities revealed make me think of SKs/survivors.

Side note: I'm willing to believe Arix is Edgar, given the use of tools, but, erm... he killed someone to prove it?

(Also, yes, the mod-text was awesome, even if Celina's death was not.)