Ilyarin, if I'm confirmed town, why am I on your list?

Oh you're a reliable town, my mistake.

*cough* Nobody died, thats the important part!

Like I said last time (before heading to a friend's place where I'm quite comfortable) I'm town, I am not culted, have no alternate win conditions, and cannot be considered scum.

And now that that post is, for the second time, separated to be easily verified:

I'm Umaro. I must change my vote if Mog Orders it, and I cannot vote for Mog.

If someone has a majority of votes by two, I can rend them to kill them and end the day.

That power seems scummy to me though as well. Should we check him, or do people believe it?

I think Rika used her checking power already.

She has two apparently. Did she use them both?

No. She should have one use left.

I'm not sure who rika should use her last shot on.

What I do know is that we need to get more info.

I say we lynch dugan, and if nobody dies tonight, and we don't win, then we lynch thiden. Yes, ilyarin, I understand what this implies.

But we should do it, because its the only information we have to go off of, and Dugan allready admited he isn't really town anyway.

lets save Rika's ability for when we find out if my plan of action isn't working, and we need more information than we allready have.

going back to what Ilyarin said, I've also noticed a lack of people pushing to have either thiden or Dugan lynched, based on the lack of death last night. So it appears that the scum (if they are not dugan or thiden) aren't taking the opportunity to push them.

But obviously, Dugan is a safer bet just incase you are right Ilyarin.

Why should the scum do it? You are doing it for them. They can just sit back and let you do it while they can skate on by in silence.

point to them.

Its been over 24 hours, they have had their time to do so.

Why are we letting Daganev call the shots...I have to say, he has been far more helpful to the Mafia then he has to us, even giving them a course of action to cast suspion on two people..."f I am right no one will die" right or wrong if the people you selected weren't mafia it was a great way to get them to not kill somoene just to cast suspicion. And since YOU seem to be quite willing to lynch someone who has claimed investigator...I find you extremely suspicions...While I realize I have only been able to point at Rika as Town, but again let me point out that is YOUR FAULT...for your briliant move of bumrushing me, which prevented me from investigating anyone lastnight....which prevented us from getting any real evidecent against who might really be Mafia.

I will say it again, you have been much more help to the Mafia then you have the town...I really wish Rika hadn't confirmed you as town. You are a liability.

Also, Dag, you're forgetting the following possibility:

Lynch Dugan. He's not scum. Night comes. Someone dies. Day comes. Lynch Thiden. He's not scum. Night comes. Someone dies.

Then what would you suggest we do?

It has been day for about 24 hours, yes. In those 24 hours, we have had three people vote for someone, me, you and Sil. In those 24 hours, we have heard from 9 people ... Sil, Dag, Rika, Thiden, Myrkr, Ilyarin, Esano, Amarysse and myself. We have more than 9 people still alive. You say to point to them, we heard from only 9 and out of those nine, only three have casted votes.

Ilyarin has made a vote as well, so make that 4 people have voted instead of three.

Well, lynching Dugan (he is the only safe lynch by the way, I can't believe you people do not understand that) means it gives all of our night powers one more chance to investigate/protect/kill, and we can know more information tomorrow.

I'd rather lynch a neutral-survivor sort then take a chance lynching a townie, again.

I do find it though so very ironic. I can actually understand the logic behind lynching me ... I am not town ... I might be one day, but it is not today. And I would be a 'safe' lynch. But why not try to go after the people who are against the town and not just those who are not town.

We have Esano going around with his flip coin? What does that do? No one has ever said anything to him as to what it means or what it does. We have you with your I am 50% avoidance on any action, plus a 50% chance to survive a lynch ... not a nightkill but a lynch. Both you and Dag want to kill off Thiden, but he has roleclaimed as an investigator. You want to have Dag bum-rush Rika ... the other person who can verify posts. As I posted to Dag, the mafia don't have to do too much of anything. They can just sit back on this one and do nothing.