Honestly. Why?

A few examples..

- Aesyra is currently wearing boots AND sandals. Both artifacts, both necessary. But who would seriously wear that? How would that even look? Sure I can customize them but that won't solve the issue of wearing BOTH.

- Dingbat piggy nose. No more needs to be said. Again, customization is possible. But whether she is wearing a wolf snout or a big red clown nose won't make any difference here either. A ridiculous nose is a ridiculous nose.

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So yeah, what bothers me the most is that any time I try to RP with her, I just need to LOOK at her to realize the futility. She looks like a clown, and there's nothing I can do about it. How the hell can you RP with a char that looks like that but ISN'T a clown as far as her personality is concerened? (Or shouldn't be really, as I said, it's become impossible) I know there are artifacts that let you hide -everything- but I don't want to hide everything but ONLY the artifacts.

If Charune has the time to code a spam-scry snub, would it be impossible to ask for an option to hide your artifacts? Like CONFIG ARTIFACTS OFF to no let them be seen in your desc anymore. Or to have that option for each item individually. Please?

Orb of suppression.

Wait, does that even exist here?

Get a rainbow cloak instead. And gloves if needed.

I don't want to hide my entire clothing and jewelry! Just the artifacts that screw my style so utterly!

(But yes, I may have to resort to those. Makes me a bit sad considering how much time I put into my unique jewelry..)

EDIT: Honestly, for what you pay for artifacts you should have the option of them NOT showing in your desc if you have to wear them for effect already.

Aesyra I was saying the same exact thing today (Well, almost.) I was talking about how I'd love the pig snout but I could never wear one which is B.S. I mean cmon now, first off as the Scythe of Fain it would look absolutely stupid walking around with something that looks like a pigs snout. Or even as Warlord, how would I be taken serious as a fearsome warrior wearing..a pigs snout? Lol.

Would be nice to have the option...I'd like to wear some artefacts but not others. Settling for "all or none" for the benefit of pig-nosed buggers would be better than it is now, though.

I really hate to be argumentative, but the ones you guys seem to be referring to are purchased with what are tellingly called dingbats.
How seriously can they be taken, really? Certainly, some of them are incredibly useful, but a large number have effects largely intended for entertainment value- much like their names and descriptions.

I suppose if it really bothered you, you could always customize the snout to look like a mask, or something, but while some are utilitarian, they also seem to be designed in a much more flippant vein than most other artifacts.

No we are not exclusively referring to dingbats. The nose is dingbats but the sandals and boots are very much NOT dingbats. Besides, I equally have issues with the Brooch of the Tempest or the Circlet of Lucidity. I mean.. I'm wearing a crown AND a circlet?! W. T. F.

Aesyra looks so ridiculous by now, it makes me really sad.

Also, dingbats are way too useful to be called "entertainment only". Especially the nose. You just have to sacrifice your entire RP for most artifacts, dingbats or not. And -that's- something I don't get considering the price of them.

EDIT: A snout is a snout. Even with customization you cannot change the noun. Aka you cannot make it into a mask.

Yeah, and having to be silly in order to get really good effects like scent (damn I miss that skill) is kind of obnoxious.

No, you can't customise a snout to look like a mask: artefact customisation involves sharing the same noun. You could have a pig snout, or a wolf snout, or a wombat snout, but you can't have a mask.

Which is the same reason customising the sandals/boots Aesyra's wearing isn't going to help her any.

To be honest, I think they overdid it with some of the effects this time around. Definitely not dingbat effects.

First. I did not say they were "entertainment only." I said that a portion of them seem to be geared that way. Even the name of the nose says "ridiculous." I just find it a bit odd that people are raving about plush dolls in one thread, and ranting about a pig's nose in another. Honestly, I can't picture many of the "serious" people running around hugging and pulling on talking dolls.

Maybe they did overdo it on the silliness factor, and maybe that's exactly what Estarra wanted- since I can't afford to buy them, it's not an issue for me. I also don't want to have to deal with having several of the bloody things and having to worry about whether they're compatible or how they'll look when I wear them. I really, really don't mean to sound rude, but (to me) it's like saying you want a fur coat for the warmth, huge sunglasses to protect your eyes, rubber boots to keep your feet dry, an umbrella to keep off the rain/sun, a fanny pack to carry all your stuff, etc. and then being unhappy because all of these very useful things don't look stellar when worn all at once. Maybe it really isn't like that, but that's sort of what the arguments sound like to me. You purchase these artifacts because of what they can do for you, and you know what they're going to look like (and what you can do with them in terms of combinations and customizations) when you buy them. It's entirely possible that I only see it this way because I don't have an armload of the things, but it seems to me that you could either request that your sandals/boots/noses be made into something else (yes, it would probably cost credits, but I've seen it done elsewhere), or decide whether it's more important to get the usage of the artifact or look a particular way. (If that sounds instigatory, I apologize. That's definitely not my intention. I'm just having a hard time understanding why this is a huge problem.)

Third, for Thoros. http://www.lepconnie.com/willow/pictures/pics/vid209.jpg

Again, they cannot be made into something else. The noun has to remain. Boots will still be boots, sandals still sandals and a nose still a nose. Even after customization.

-All- I want is to NOT sacrifice any roleplay or depth my character may have just because I want to use some artifacts. That's why I'd like the option to simply hide them.

In Aetolia they changed artifacts to be "powers" instead. Much like our runes, you simply put a power on a pre-existing item. That way you can decide yourself what fits your character and what does not. You are not forced to wear a certain item that does not fit your RP at all because you need/want the effect.

I wonder if you could get away with customizing as "a ferocious animal mask with a snuffling snout" or something like that.

Once more, the code's already there for these things to be done as runes, it would be no harder for them to have done it that way. So they must want to force you to look ridiculous.

...or to cough up the other US$25 to customize them.

Nah, no business would try to get you to give it your money. What was I thinking?

(Actually I bet they just thought it would be fun and didn't think much past that.)

I've said it in my very first post: If customization would solve the issue I'd do it, however it does NOT help. I will still wear boots and sandals, I will still wear a crown and a circlet and I will still have a ridiculous snout strapped to my face. You cannot change the noun with customization.

Change your rp, its $25 cheaper.

Pig snouts, ha.

Well, you could customize the pig nose to look like a scarf or something.

What would be better for the artifacts then?

Perhaps all artifacts can be runes/coins, with the image of what the artifact is on it?

So instead of wearing a snout, what you actually have is a coin or a rune with a pig snout on it?

Behold the scarf-snout!