While a great idea that gets my seal of approval...

It still won't solve the issue I wanted to address though. Non-organizational races getting blessings. And honestly, it isn't that hard. Sarrasri has blessed Lucidians. Thoros has blessed Furrikin. Malicia (or was it Catarin? I don't remember) has blessed Humans. Those who hold the scepter will bless other races if given a reason to do so. Serenwilde could benefit greatly from blessing Loboshigaru, of which they have many. Celest has lots of Trill. Being forced to only give one blessing to your org isn't that horrible. You still get to give them the War/Life blessing.

EDIT: Forgot the seal

I have to agree. I don't like the idea of restricting which races can be blessed.

Domoths are an effing hassle and a chore most of the time. You do it and then you have to bless a race that is of no benefit to yourself OR the majority of your commune/city? Doesn't sound that good.

EDIT: And that's a Shofangi speaking who's usually faeling, human or kephera and as such hardly ever gets blessed. Yay.

If anything, what would fix the blessing of one race entirely would be if racial domoth blessings were exclusive for the organization in control of the domoth. That is really the sole reason you see blessings always sit on elfen, merian, viscanti, and faelings anyway. Disallowing opposing domoths the ability to bless the same race really does not address the issue at all.

I like this.

Seconded. Now we can bless the tae'dae.

I think this kind of defeats the scaling of the blessings. Having one level that can extend beyond the org controlling the domoth seems to be intentional. It allows for the possibility of people benefiting from the domoths even if one org dominates them. Estera's Idea seems to be a good compromise of keeping things the way they were designed while putting some limits on things being sooooo one sided.

If you make it so only one blessing per race, you're pretty much forcing people to either bless their enemies, or not take part in the system. If you make it so one blessing per race, and the blessings only affect those of said race in your org, you still force people to spread the blessings out over a variety of races, but you still make it so it's a buff to your org, not everyone. Lets face it, when you want to do something, you don't want it help everyone, you just want it to help your side.

And THAT is exactly why you see only faelings, elfen, viscanti and merian being blessed. Why the Hell would I bless my enemies (even if just unintentionally) after -I- went through the trouble of claiming the domoth? Why the hell would I bless those that then fight me? No way in hell.

PS: And sorry, no I don't like Estarra's idea. I think if it was implemented we'd end up with a lot of race blessings simply NOT being given out in the first place because no one would want to knowingly bless the enemy.

If one org dominates the domoths then they would only have to pick two races and split the blessings between them. If you don't want to bless a race then you don't have to. This seems like a pretty reasonable way to nudge racial blessings to a little more diversity.

This would be the case even if you restricted them to the org that held the domoth, which i think is another topic. Having things split up a little is probably a good idea anyway even if the blessings are restricted to one org.

p.s. hell, hell, hell, damn, damn, damn

I'd just not bless another race if it was going to be a choice between none or non-merian/elf.

Issue 1: People don't want to, and shouldn't have to, bless their enemies.
Issue 2: Because of the way racial balance here works, even if enemies weren't blessed, viscanti is a good choice for 4/5 Mag guilds and anyone who wishes to engage in Magnagoran RP. It thus occupies a majority of the org.
Issue 3: Given the two above points and on its own merits, WHY is there a need for multiple races to receive domoth blessings? As someone who can't even be an elfen effectively as a Shofangi, it seems like the thing people want to complain about here is with racial balancing making the four "main" races too popular and the others not enough so, and the spread of domoth blessings is just symptomatic of that.

You would never be faced with that choice, with Estera's idea, since you can split all the racial blessing between just two races.

Not really, the way we end up distributing them.

And it really doesn't make much difference if all the blessings go to (say) viscanti and illithoid. The other races don't benefit one bit.

There might be something I'm missing then. If you take a domoth and want to only bless one of two races and are only restricted against blessing a single race, which may or may not be one of the two you want to bless, I'm not sure of a situation where you would have to pick a third or opt for none.

I 100% agree that this won't make much of a difference but it's a step in the right direction and something that Estera seems open to implementing. Even if all the racial blessings are split just between two races its better then having all of them go to a single race imho.

They're already split between two races (when I'm bothering to hold domoths), it changes nothing is what I'm saying. Except that I can't have war/justice, harmony/chaos, etc.

Edit: Keep in mind I can't hold opposite domoths in the first place. So if I'm holding two, I won't have two opposites anyway.

This idea sucks.

The ONLY thing which needs changing about domoths is the ability to challenge a throne and then leave. Rika and Sarrasri are very guilty of doing this when they are the only ones around. What this does is it prevents others from being able to claim the throne for up to five hours, which is total b.s. There needs to be a penalty for failing during the first stage of a domoth to prevent this. Maybe if a challenger fails the challenge in only the first stage, he/she become cursed by negative domothean energies, which prevent them from challenging thrones for an entire IC year.

Please please pretty please????

Hm? A penalty for failing the first stage seems unduly harsh for a mechanic that is supposed to be a bonus to a player/org and not a requirement. If a player is successfully interrupted from killing 30 domotheos guardians do they really need something more negative heaped upon them? Since the changes in essence gain at crown level, there's already rather little reason for a demigod without a seal to hold a domoth, except in an interest for org power gain at the cost of their own essence...which is really where change should be seen, in my opinion.

For a demigod:

Perfect crown claim: about 630k essence lost
Perfect orb claim: about 450k essence lost
Perfect sceptre claim: about 270k essence lost

Since a demigod holds a domoth for 75 days, that only allows them a 937k bonus, which is about 2/3 of the essence necessary to claim the crown in the first place. Now, granted, after gaining the crown the first time, a demigod can reclaim it again from the orb level but in all honesty, if someone is willing to go through the tedium every 3 rl days to waste 2 hours of uninterrupted time, all the power to them as the personal bonus isn't particularly ground-breaking. I think if essence gain were set to 20k per day, it'd be a nice middle-ground from where we are now compared to the levels seem before.

Domoths are clearly meant for orgs these days, so we might as well limit racial blessings to the org that claims them.

Optionally, we can make it so racial specs don't receive the racial blessing (i.e. - shadowfaelings don't get blessed with faelings, wild/lord/lady/high elfen don't get blessed with elfen) and everyone can be equally unhappy.

There was really no problem with the 25k in the first place. What needed to be limited was how many crowns counted for the essence bonus (ie one).

@Llandros: If this bandage 'fix' is placed, you won't be seeing another opportunity to change things in a loooong time. After some thought, the only solution to this would be Nydekion's, because of the simple fact that no one wants to knowingly help their enemies.