Gender vs. Sex

by Ameri

Back to The Real World.

Acrune2008-11-25 00:24:24
Heh, this thread reminds me of my race class and gender class I took in college. It was a giant waste of time. Just like this thread. I'd quote the "care-o-meter" that was on the second page or so, but I don't feel like getting it.

Seriously Ameri, go do something productive.
Celina2008-11-25 00:25:54
QUOTE(Ameri @ Nov 24 2008, 06:49 PM) 586208
Celine, why don't you get in that kitchen and make me some pies...where woman belong and give me your shoes.--this is the kind of nonsense you support -however innocuous- when you state that gender is tied to sex. You do not need to be barefoot, in a kitchen, cooking and cleaning all day because you are a woman. If you so choose to define your sex in this way, so be it, you just sound like an idiot doing so.


Of for the love of Mary and Joseph.

Please, for the sake of my sanity, learn to read before you get your elitist panties in a bunch. Just because "gender" and "sex" can be synonyms doesn't mean they mutually define eachother. Claiming, once again, that I support sexual discrimination through the use of a word that harbors no negative connotation nor has historically been used to persecute a group of people is a baseless argument. You obviously have strong opinions about the number of gender roles our society deems acceptable, but that does not, by any stretch of the imagination, mean that people who go by the dictionary definition of a the word "gender" and use it to define their sex are persecuting you or me or anyone else.

If I go outside and yell "my gender is female" no one is going to tell me I should be pregnant and in the kitchen. That's just a figment of your odd imagination.

It amazes me that you seem so open minded about the ideas of gender and sexuality, but are so insufferably close minded about language and the opinions of others.

What would you prefer I call you? It? Shim? She-male? Or are you done nitpicking? If you haven't stated that you are male or female, then it is entirely irrelevent what people call you.
Daganev2008-11-25 00:29:47
QUOTE(Ameri @ Nov 24 2008, 03:49 PM) 586208
I didn't say that. What I said was starting around 1850 there was a concerted effort to tie gender and sex together.



All your evidence points to a concerted effort to move social norms into law, and an attempt to legally enforce everybody to be follow those norms.

they don't show any evidence of tieing anything together.
Acrune2008-11-25 00:30:01
QUOTE(Ameri @ Nov 24 2008, 06:49 PM) 586208
Celine, why don't you get in that kitchen and make me some pies...where woman belong and give me your shoes.--this is the kind of nonsense you support -however innocuous- when you state that gender is tied to sex.


So, you're saying that womanhood is defined by whether they're in the kitchen cooking or not. roflmao.gif

Its funny when people are full of themselves -and- have no idea what they're talking about -and- have no idea how to argue the crap they're trying to pass along as reality.
Daganev2008-11-25 00:35:38
QUOTE(Ameri @ Nov 24 2008, 03:49 PM) 586208
Celine, why don't you get in that kitchen and make me some pies...where woman belong and give me your shoes.--this is the kind of nonsense you support -however innocuous- when you state that gender is tied to sex.


Is there something wrong with a woman who chooses to spend time in the kitchen?
Xenthos2008-11-25 00:39:25
Tremble, forums, when Daganev/Celina/Xavius/Acrune unite behind one common argument...
Celina2008-11-25 00:40:06
For the record, I can't cook worth a damn. Put me in the kitchen all day and you'll just have more macaroni and ramen then you ever wanted.

edit: hahahaha Xenthos
Acrune2008-11-25 00:43:40
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Nov 24 2008, 07:39 PM) 586244
Tremble, forums, when Daganev/Celina/Xavius/Acrune unite behind one common argument...


fear.gif
Unknown2008-11-25 00:43:55


QUOTE(Xenthos @ Nov 25 2008, 12:39 AM) 586244
Tremble, forums, when Daganev/Celina/Xavius/Acrune unite behind one common argument...

Daganev: Semantics!
Xavius: Logic!
Celina: Passion!
Acrune: Sarcasm!

By your powers combined, I am Captain PWN!11!1-ET
Daganev2008-11-25 00:55:57
QUOTE(Archer2 @ Nov 24 2008, 04:43 PM) 586250
Daganev: Semantics!
Xavius: Logic!
Celina: Passion!
Acrune: Sarcasm!

By your powers combined, I am Captain PWN!11!1-ET


For a second, I thought that was just cute, but then I think that those 4 things are the various influence battle debating mindsets, and I loled (but I can't remember if thats true or not sad.gif )
Celina2008-11-25 00:58:31
mindsets: Cautious, Analytical, Pedantic

Debate styles: Pettifoggery, Pontification, Passion
Noola2008-11-25 00:59:14
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 24 2008, 06:55 PM) 586254
For a second, I thought that was just cute, but then I think that those 4 things are the various influence battle debating mindsets, and I loled (but I can't remember if thats true or not sad.gif )



There's only three debating attacks, but I think they're covered here. I think that Sarcasm is the extra. Passion is passion, Logic is pontification and semantics is pettifoggery. Or is it logic is pettifoggery and semantics is pontification? chin.gif
Unknown2008-11-25 01:14:20
I couldn't think of an apt label for Acrune's style >_<
Casilu2008-11-25 01:15:57
QUOTE(Archer2 @ Nov 24 2008, 05:14 PM) 586268
I couldn't think of an apt label for Acrune's style >_<


He has style? Ha!
Acrune2008-11-25 01:19:54
QUOTE(casilu @ Nov 24 2008, 08:15 PM) 586270
He has style? Ha!


I have extreme style! You're just jealous content.gif
Noola2008-11-25 01:22:34
QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 24 2008, 07:19 PM) 586273
I have extreme style! You're just jealous content.gif


Isn't extreme style things like splitting your tongue down the middle and implanting metal spikes in your skull?
Casilu2008-11-25 01:22:54
QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 24 2008, 05:19 PM) 586273
I have extreme style! You're just jealous content.gif


And you're just full of yourself, but who is keeping track? tongue.gif
Acrune2008-11-25 01:30:48
QUOTE(casilu @ Nov 24 2008, 08:22 PM) 586276
And you're just full of yourself, but who is keeping track? tongue.gif


sad.gif You know I'm amusing.

Edit: And you're just a hater because I wub.gif ducks. I wub.gif the way they waddle, and I wub.gif the way they quack, and I wub.gif the way they nibble my fingers when I feed them bread out of my hand happy.gif
Acrune2008-11-25 01:31:53
QUOTE(Noola @ Nov 24 2008, 08:22 PM) 586275
Isn't extreme style things like splitting your tongue down the middle and implanting metal spikes in your skull?


Right, but you can't do that on forums, so instead, I do what I do tongue.gif
Casilu2008-11-25 01:34:50
QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 24 2008, 05:30 PM) 586281
sad.gif You know I'm amusing.


Yeah, in the same style as someone hurting themselves.