A modprod has been requested. Let's see if she's done something by this time tomorrow.

I wonder if Celina has a role like Birdo again, where all she can do is vote or type a little, and can't post anything until she's been lynched/NKed once, thereby setting her free. If this game is taking pieces of the older mafias, it's completely possible, too.

Think about it carefully. Unless I have some kind of investigative role, there's only one way I could know for a fact that "inability to roleclaim" exists. Also, I think people have been going easy on the rules and Casilu's just been letting them get away with it, because I find it highly likely that you're not even supposed to claim that you're not even able to claim. Those two restrictions frequently come together (I forget what Shou's restriction was in Rika's elder wars game...hmm.)

Relatedly, Casilu didn't modkill Shaddus so I still don't like him being alive.

@Deathnote: of course I know their friggin' faces, I googled them

@Posts: If Ronny has less posts than Celina we should go after him if/when Celina posts/is replaced, first game or otherwise.

I think that is a very good assumption.



That, or we an just split our votes between Ronny and Celina at this point. Get both of them up to 2-3 short of a lynch, since we should have the active numbers for that at least, rather than having to waste time doing the first one and then the other strategy.

Sure, but Casilu is pretty terrible at votecounts so you'd have to keep track carefully.

I think Shou was also siblings with one of the Traitors and couldn't say that.

@Kiradawea: Next to Shiri in your long post. He killed Silferras with the Death Note, not Serella. Serella died in a lynching.

So, Celina still hasn't posted here, while she's still posting other places. Has a prod been delivered, Cas?

We still have a replacement left, meaning if Casilu can't punt Celina into action she can be replaced, so I guess I'll start that Melville-ganking until he posts something worthwhile.

Unvote. Vote: Ronny.

Sound's reasonable.

Unvote: Celina
Vote: Ronny

Okay, so, I know Kira did a little rundown, but I'm going to do another one for my own sake, along with a list at the end of who I think we need to look at.

Bronze- Shaddus -- Claims mason with Ytraelux. Was supposedly stalked and found to only be speaking with one other person while there were still 3 cops active. Likely not a cop.

Teal- Ytraelux -- If we decide that Shaddus isn't a cop, then we have to lean towards Ytraelux also not being a cop. Though that's not totally for sure. Possibly not a cop.

Black- Shiri -- Given his action, as well as the information that he and rika brought to light regarding the inablity to claim, which the cops didn't have access to at the start, it's very very doubtful that he's a cop. Definitely not a cop.

Blue- Rika -- Same as above. Definitely not a cop.

Pink- Sadhyra -- Revealed to be the Bride from Kill Bill. Definitely not a cop.

Turquoise- Xikue -- Revealed to be Anastasia Smirnoff, a scum from a former mafia game. Definitely not a cop.

Plum- Saaga -- Claims Mason with Xikue. Possibly not a cop.

Silver- Doman -- Claims to only be killable via lynch. This is an interesting claim, really, because it doesn't benefit a cop at all to claim it. Probably not a cop.

White- S.A.W. -- Pointed out Dirty Harry was a cop, leading to us being 1 cop down. Hopefully that clears me. I know I'm not a cop, but hopefully the evidence says that i'm at least probably not one.

Yellow- Kiradawea -- I think I have her role guessed, but I don't know if it's in the best interest of the town to speculate, so I'm just going to say Probably not a cop.

Ok, so, that leaves us with:

Brown- Myrkr
Green- Furien
Crimson- Celina
Purple -Nys
Blonde- Archer2
Grey- Ronny

6 people who have no defense at the moment, and two cops among them. If we have any investigators, stalkers, or any detection abilities at all left, then this is where we need to focus, I think.

Am I missing any evidence regarding the "innocence" of those I've pointed out?

Wait, what? This is the same as "can't be nightkilled" which is a claim scum use ALL THE TIME. (Of course, in his case it's actually true...) I guess the cops have no such ability though. Hm.

I guess I've just never come across it, as it doesn't seem to have any purpose in my mind. Not being able to be night-killed doesn't make you valuable or trust-worthy in anyway, imho. Though, the fact that he actually does have the ability doesn't seem one that would fit a cop very well. Except maybe Gordon, given how he took a shot and faked his death. That could sort of be a night-kill immunity, I suppose.

We can move him back into the suspect category if you'd prefer.

What it does is explain why you continue to survive despite being an apparently good scum target. It's also not "testable" in any way so they can't try to make you prove it.

And wait a minute...I didn't know that about Gordon. HMMMMMMMM. So hypothetically, if Doman were to be stabbed and shot a bit, but seemed fine anyway, that would be a potential scum tell?

It very well could be. In The Dark Knight, Gordon takes a shot to the chest to protect the mayor. He is pronounced dead and uses the guise to protect his family while he disguises himself as a normal SWAT officer, driving the van that is being targeted by the Joker and using the opportunity to arrest him. That, and Gordon's big weakness in both Begins and TDK is politics and bureaucracy.

I'd say that could possibly be transformed into a night-kill immunity.

Oh, it's THAT gordon. Ok I did know that, I just never realised his name was James.

Unvote. Vote: Doman.

It's Jim. Jim Gordon. Jim = James, doesn't it? At least, I'm guessing that's the Gordon. I don't know of any other Gordon that's a cop.

My movie-knowledge is sadly very lacking, I can't comment on that.

You're probably right, hence my vote. I think we have a second cop! Inactives can wait a day.

I think something has slipped by me in the time before I joined. I thought I had read everything, but I might have missed this--How did you find out the details of Doman's role, and what do those details entail, exactly?

It would not be in my best interests to reveal any sources of information I may have at this time.