You know, couldn't the four of you that are supposedly masons just roleclaim for each other? Particularly Ytraelux claimng for Shaddus.

Hrm, I didn't think of that - can we, mod?

Appealing to the mod in the thread is kind of poor form. If you must, use a PM. If you're not explicitly barred from doing so, though, you probably can.

Why am I not concerned about being arrested at night? Probably because we have a doctor and various investigators who have claimed their abilities--I know if I were a cop, and had lost one partner, that I wouldn't be targeting me. And Shiri is taking the lead just as much as me when he's here. And Rika has superpowers. Need I continue?

Really, every conclusion I've come to I've put up for review and specifically asked if I'm missing anything. Archer2 was completely silly for coming out of inactivity and attacking one of the only people with a confirmed role--that was totally his own bad play that got him killed, not ours, as far as I'm concerned.

@Shiri: I'm sure there are other means of confirming mason pairs at your disposal, given your abilities.

Personally? Nope.

Huh.

Well. Furien's the last to talk, yes?

For right now I'm going to Vote: Furien for conveniently waiting until Archer2 had been terminated to start talking.

As it stands, it seems that Celina and Furien are the only two people without any defense. Not saying the people with mason pairs are all clean, but we need to try and get something out of the two we have nothing on.

I think, Celina, that you need to spill the info on your role at this point. Enough of the LOLbility crap--that isn't helpful.

Arix has no defence that I can see either.

Well, the only reason I think Arix might have something is that I pushed him before he had a chance to catch up on anything, and he implied that he couldn't reveal his role. But you're right, he could have been totally faking and keeping up on the thread for the whole game and known ahead of time that a lot of townies can't reveal can't info.

So, that's Celina, Furien, and Arix then.

There are other players who presumably can't reveal some of their info that have still managed to hint at it, though. You'd just have to carefully allude to things.

Well, after a couple of pages of lurking (didn't really have anything to say that hadn't already been said) I figure speaking up might be a good idea.

Arix is being unhelpful, to say the least. It's entirely possible that he is unable to claim and is telling the truth, or he's a scrum who isn't trying too hard to defend himself. However, the latter option seems unlikely to me. If he were scum, would he really be being this unobliging? As we can see, it's not exactly the best way to avoid suspicion.

I'm wary of pointing the finger at SAW, as I think being suspicious of people for trying to get things moving in a game this slow and with this many different bandwagons is counter-productive at this point.

As for Celina, now that she's said she has a "useless ability with a lol factor" I'm slightly suspicious of the fact that she isn't telling us what the ability is. If it's that harmelss, surely sharing it with the rest of us would be equally benign. I think I'm going to Vote: Celina once more. She is really not helping her own case here.

As for Furien... He needs to speak up. That's really all I can say. He hasn't given us much to work with.

Furien waiting for somebody to be killed really bothers me. But, I would really like to know what exactly it is that Celina can do. She's been asked at least twice, and has stepped around actually answering both times.
I would like to put the pressure on Furien, since Celina has at least told us she has a night ability. Vote: Furien

Okay. This random jumping back and forth does nothing but serve to drag this day out into infinity so... I'm gonna propose a list of action, and then we actually stick with that.

First, we pressure Arix. He already has three votes on himself, and is thus the closest to a lynch. Still far away, but closest.

Then, we pressure Furien. Only lurking and no informative posts.

Then, we pressure Celina to explain more about her "LOLability".

Then, we pressure Nys. I still want a name.

Then... we pressure the mason groups to reveal each others name. By this point, we should have may more to work with.

Any objections or views on this?

Putting pressure on anyone to reveal names is unhelpful if they are unable to do so. Moreso if they are unable to say that they are unable to do so, as some people seem to be implying.

This may be my stubborn nature talking, but I'm not revealing my ability while there is still a chance it can be useful. So stop prodding me to claim.

At any rate, I saved Nys. Nys was on the chopping block, I went out of my way to clear her name after she tried to get me lynched, and that makes me suspicious? There's some bad mob logic taking over this mafia game. Honestly, if you are voting for me, you haven't been keeping up.

Nys can reveal her name though.

How does you clearing Nys clear you, Celina?

Let's look at this, really.

Nys says he has investigator ability and that he knows you targetted Rika.

You say "Psh, I didn't target Rika, Nys is lying."

Now, we kill Nys and discover he does in fact have an investigator ability. Where does that put you? On the road to being lynched.

You had no choice but to save Nys, because if you didn't, and she was telling the truth, whether you were scum or town, you were going to be lynched afterwards.

So, really, your move was one you had to make, regardless of which side you're on. It doesn't prove anything--you had no other choice but to clear her.

Now, you haven't given us your ability or your name. So, quit being stubborn and start talking.

I guess one out of four is a step in the right direction... Q_Q

Anyways, Celina is less worrisome to me right now than Furien. Furien is a completely unknown quantity. That's where we should be focusing.

I know, I know! I realized it after I posted, but I didn't want to post again saying whoops. I really do know you're a girl! Honestly!