Pathtwist

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Unknown2008-12-19 22:00:26
Yea, but I've always been against the retardedness of springtraps to smobs, too! tongue.gif
Unknown2008-12-19 23:38:40
Thanks for filling in the gaps in my knowledge. Shuyin said better what I think I was trying to say, anyway.

I've tested pathtwist with Gregori before and it seemed about a 5% chance to move me against my will. So, unless we were doing something different (or wrong), it's really not bad at all.
Urazial2008-12-19 23:49:22
Pathtwist being able to force movent from neutral territory into enemy territory is retarded, but meh. I can't see how it's justified using it to bring people to the avatars either.
Revan2008-12-19 23:51:06
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Dec 19 2008, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've tested ectoplasm with Thoros before and it seemed about a 3s scrub time against my will. So, unless we were doing something different (or wrong), it's really not bad at all.

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Shiri2008-12-20 01:45:43
Forced moving to supermobs is about as bad as forced moving onto/off of a nexus. Does need to be fixed.
Casilu2008-12-20 01:48:07
QUOTE (Shiri @ Dec 19 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Forced moving to supermobs is about as bad as forced moving onto/off of a nexus. Does need to be fixed.


Isn't that the most common defense tactic? Empress, summon, gust, beckon.
Shiri2008-12-20 01:55:16
QUOTE (casilu @ Dec 20 2008, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't that the most common defense tactic? Empress, summon, gust, beckon.

Yes.
Esano2008-12-20 02:23:47
QUOTE (Sojiro @ Dec 20 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually you shouldn't really compare choking avatars to pathtwisting. It's better to use springtraps if you absolutely have to compare.

One makes it impossible to kill the avatars, the other just drags you to them.

They're for slightly different scaled raids, though. Pathtwist will stop a small or medium sized raid in its tracks - and probably a big raid, too. You have to be big enough to take out the avatars without any risk, and you're probably being pathtwisted to the one that gets assisted.

On the other hand, a small raid can simply not walk into the choked avatar rooms.

So ... choke was probably worse for a full avatar raid, but pathtwist is horrible for any raid.
Krellan2008-12-20 02:37:04
I have heard from Gregori more than once that pathtwist is 10% chance to fire.
Unknown2008-12-20 02:45:59
QUOTE (Revan @ Dec 19 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Whatever your goal was there, I'd say you failed. confused.gif
Tael2008-12-20 03:25:40
I'd call that straight-up unlucky for Thoros. However, forced movement or any kind of retardation effect.. or anything that can technically be classified as mechanic abuse for supermobs should be removed. Pathtwist on it's own is fine and acceptable.

I do support pathtwist, springtraps, whatever the hell kind of forced movement not working on smobs, but I don't see how you'd be able to justify it in an IC manner except for amnesia dust kicking in just like choking Night Avatars.