I'm okay with this change too, I'll add it to the comments as a possible way to fix the situation without nerfing chasm.

If it's the barrier that destroys stonewalls (and maybe other sorts of walls?), then anyone with Telekinesis could remove them. Could be a good thing or a bad thing.

Yeah, that's why I originally opted for chasm dropping stonewalls...that would allow the geomancer full control of the situation without stacking it so excessively in their favor. Other changes seem to have much more far-reaching effects that may or may not be intentional, but eh, it's another option, I guess.

All the more reason weave statue/nature should work indoors and underground

Why is it that Thoros is usually the only (well, besides Celina and Revan) person to jump to the defence of Mag skills, no matter what they are, when a nerf is proposed... Do you have alts in each guild? Apparently the others don't care as much if it's nerfed... just you.

I'd be quite happy with a 10p spec skill dropping stonewalls that take 4s each to raise. Especially as you can already crash through them with enough time.

This is preferable to chasm breaking stonewalls, because there are people who use stonewalls without using barrier. I'm one of them - I don't even have access to barrier solo (which seems to be the slant of their argument).

Report 128 makes me lol. Thank you. I only wish I could comment on it in the Report system.

That's the problem with putting up a report within 24 hours of the deadline.

I meant more along the lines of not being an Envoy, actually.

And I'm talking more about the "makes me lol" part.

After writing my comment for REPORT 128, the thoughts kept coming and I now feel there is zero need for any change to this chasm/barrier/wall combination whatsoever. If barrier itself needs changing that is another story, but if you read my comment, you'll see where I'm coming from. For those who don't want to, it just lists that nearly every archetype and combination of tertiaries can escape/beat this trap. I believe there was potentially 3-4 classes with specific tertiaries only that would make this trap difficult, but still not impossible to escape.

The problem is most of your examples are botched (and not just in this report but in most reports). You continually post "solutions" without ever attempting to test them or verify them. In this instance, I will take the time to do the work you didn't do in response to your statement:

1. In contrary to your statement that mages should never under any circumstances be "stuck," I would note that unless an Aquamancer is standing on a break point, there is no Telekinetic/Aquamancy/Illusions/Phantasms ability that will break barrier while indoors.

2. Warriors have no solution. Even assuming love potion tics the second after they chasm, it's possible to survive four attacks with sufficient health.

3. The suspended animation example is truly a joke. When suspended animation ends, they can instantly re-chasm. As this is not concerning group mechanics, it's irrelevant and entirely subjectives as to whether or not it provides time for a group to arrive to save you - that depends on where you are.

4. Reading disruption consumes equilibrium. Hyperactive does not influence equilibrium so that entire statement about how Acrobatics is immune is therefore false.

5. Chuuti is not a solution because the geomancer in question can simply unenemy the target and still chasm.

6. Chasm will complete before you have time to blacknote/deathsong.

7. Judge will fail if they have locked a mantakaya dagger before starting it. Deathsong will fail if they have locked a niricol dagger (testing this to confirm, but blindness used to stop deathsong).

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Don't suggest something should never happen when it easily can. And does.

Too bad the problem isn't stonewalls, isn't it?

Report 128 is just a joke, a report which was placed up there this month simply for lulz.

I stopped reading the rest of the pages at page four, but after awhile you get the gist that it's all Celenwilde vs Magnagora for the whole nerf 'Barrier-Chasm'. I had brought up the same thing once before on the Serenguard combat channel about not being able to shed all three channels by the time Chasm kills you.

My solution?

Just let Disruption be able to target specific channels instead of random ones. To my knowledge, Barrier is only possible on one channel. This takes away from the unpredictability of the stupid scroll while keeping Barrier and Chasm a strong combination, just not a stupidly retarded one. Shazaam.

Oh, and as I said, I didn't read the last few pages so I don't know if someone already suggested this, but cheers.

EDIT: But I'm so up for a Peace poison though.

It was suggested.

And Narsrim thinks that won't fix anything. Hahaha.

I'm up for a poison that isn't useless like most of them are already.

That's not useless at all!






/sarcasm

Why is it that Zacc is posting on a thread about combat when he has absolutely no clue about what he's talking about?

Beyond the obvious attempt at an insult through lol worthy misinformation, wtf does it have to do with anything?

They have.

There's just one major flaw: barrier is a 10p ability. If this is put in, you can remove it for 5s worth of eq.

I think barrier removing stonewalls would be best, myself.

Attack the Demesne holder.

I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with the envoy suggestion. However, I am tired of Krellan fabricating details. Envoys should be held to a higher standard.