Gregori2009-01-15 20:33:47
Unless I missed something, I buffed my damage as well as I could minus artifacts and using shrine vendetta.
I am the Hartstone specialised race and Vernal Ascendant.
So with all this against Kelysa a High Elfen Moondancer (obviously expecting low damage due to magic DMP) base damage with cudgel was 764, with not even enough bleeding to break the 1000 damage barrier.
Against Eamon, a High Elfen Demigod Druid was 904 damage with 205 bleeding, just enough to barely break the 1000 damage barrier.
Cutting/Blunt is crap damage. Please fix with something that does not require vast expenditures of resources to meet the basic damage levels of just about anyone else.
Just to clarify. Kelysa without half of the damage buffs I had was doing more base damage to me with moonburst at 934 damage a burst.
I am the Hartstone specialised race and Vernal Ascendant.
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Karma  : 9%                                                            |
| The karmic blessing of beauty    : 21 hours 38 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of harmony  : 21 hours 40 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of knowledge : 24 hours 33 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of war      : 24 hours 38 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of beauty    : 21 hours 38 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of harmony  : 21 hours 40 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of knowledge : 24 hours 33 minutes                  |
| The karmic blessing of war      : 24 hours 38 minutes                  |
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  Strength    : 16  Dexterity : 13  Constitution : 15
  Intelligence : 22  Size      : 25  Charisma    : 22
  Intelligence : 22  Size      : 25  Charisma    : 22
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»    Harmony - minor
»    Harmony - major
»    Death - minor
»    Death - major
»    War - minor
»    War - major
»    Justice - minor
»    Knowledge - minor
»    Knowledge - lesser
»    Harmony - major
»    Death - minor
»    Death - major
»    War - minor
»    War - major
»    Justice - minor
»    Knowledge - minor
»    Knowledge - lesser
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You are:
Truefavoured by Lisaera for about 9 days.
Truefavoured by Lisaera for about 9 days.
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Common Skills        Rank          Pool
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Environment          Transcendent  Communion
Combat                Transcendent  Melee
Discernment          Transcendent  Intellect
Magic                Transcendent  Arcana
Planar                Transcendent  Mysticism
Discipline            Transcendent  Willpower
Beastmastery          Transcendent  Magnetism
Aethercraft          Mythical      Mysticism
  Commander
Arts                  Transcendent  Finearts
Resilience            Transcendent  Fitness
Lowmagic              Transcendent  Arcana
Influence            Transcendent  Magnetism
Dramatics            Virtuoso      Performance
Trade Skills          Rank          Pool
-------------Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ------------Â Â ------------
Herbs                Transcendent  Communion
Ascendant Skills      Rank          Pool
-------------Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ------------Â Â ------------
Ascendance            Master        Domotheos
Guild Skills          Rank          Pool
-------------Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ------------Â Â ------------
Nature                Transcendent  Mysticism
  Druidry
Totems                Transcendent  Arcana
  Stag
Dreamweaving          Transcendent  Willpower
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Environment          Transcendent  Communion
Combat                Transcendent  Melee
Discernment          Transcendent  Intellect
Magic                Transcendent  Arcana
Planar                Transcendent  Mysticism
Discipline            Transcendent  Willpower
Beastmastery          Transcendent  Magnetism
Aethercraft          Mythical      Mysticism
  Commander
Arts                  Transcendent  Finearts
Resilience            Transcendent  Fitness
Lowmagic              Transcendent  Arcana
Influence            Transcendent  Magnetism
Dramatics            Virtuoso      Performance
Trade Skills          Rank          Pool
-------------Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ------------Â Â ------------
Herbs                Transcendent  Communion
Ascendant Skills      Rank          Pool
-------------Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ------------Â Â ------------
Ascendance            Master        Domotheos
Guild Skills          Rank          Pool
-------------Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ------------Â Â ------------
Nature                Transcendent  Mysticism
  Druidry
Totems                Transcendent  Arcana
  Stag
Dreamweaving          Transcendent  Willpower
So with all this against Kelysa a High Elfen Moondancer (obviously expecting low damage due to magic DMP) base damage with cudgel was 764, with not even enough bleeding to break the 1000 damage barrier.
Against Eamon, a High Elfen Demigod Druid was 904 damage with 205 bleeding, just enough to barely break the 1000 damage barrier.
Cutting/Blunt is crap damage. Please fix with something that does not require vast expenditures of resources to meet the basic damage levels of just about anyone else.
Just to clarify. Kelysa without half of the damage buffs I had was doing more base damage to me with moonburst at 934 damage a burst.
Celina2009-01-15 21:30:24
It's pretty obvious cudgel was designed to be used in conjunction with sap, but if you want to remove the bleeding then sure, I don't see any reason why it couldn't be a staff clone with a different damage type. You'll run into a problem considering BT now have skills that are supposed to be used in conjuction with bleeding, though.
Desitrus2009-01-15 21:52:55
I think the test is off a little. Kelysa's max health versus greg's would make the scaling different. I staff <3000 people for only 700-800, but I staff 10k+ people for 2000-2500 and upwards as their health goes up.
Gregori2009-01-15 22:21:54
QUOTE (Desitrus @ Jan 15 2009, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the test is off a little. Kelysa's max health versus greg's would make the scaling different. I staff <3000 people for only 700-800, but I staff 10k+ people for 2000-2500 and upwards as their health goes up.
While I am not arguing with you. I don't know how the scaling works exactly. 1000 points different in health is going to account for 200 points different in damage without her even being at the peak of her damage potential?
Rika2009-01-15 22:25:49
Did Kelysa have drawdown?
Desitrus2009-01-15 22:49:40
QUOTE (Gregori @ Jan 15 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I am not arguing with you. I don't know how the scaling works exactly. 1000 points different in health is going to account for 200 points different in damage without her even being at the peak of her damage potential?
I don't know either. I assume you will have some damage loss when compared to normal magic attacks due to the "heavy bleeding" (sarcasm quotes) that goes along with cudgel. If she has Drawdown up, that's 15% off as well.
Rika2009-01-15 23:04:55
Drawdown is 22% (24DMP) if used alone.
Desitrus2009-01-15 23:35:59
859 With drawdown/fire def.
978 same but in deluge.
Her hp pool is just small, our attacks scale an incredible amount up and down, unlike say, knight attacks.
978 same but in deluge.
Her hp pool is just small, our attacks scale an incredible amount up and down, unlike say, knight attacks.
Gregori2009-01-15 23:44:41
QUOTE (Desitrus @ Jan 15 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
859 With drawdown/fire def.
978 same but in deluge.
Her hp pool is just small, our attacks scale an incredible amount up and down, unlike say, knight attacks.
978 same but in deluge.
Her hp pool is just small, our attacks scale an incredible amount up and down, unlike say, knight attacks.
Hmm. Ok. I am willing to admit I am wrong. Just seems like piddly little damage for something so buffed up considering more people fall in the 2500 - 4000 range vs. the 10000 - 14000 range.
I mean the "heavy bleeding" in itself is a joke most times. Though I do love anytime a druid says something, the 'sap' word pops out, like we somehow bleed sap onto our enemies in every scenario that might actually require us to fight.
Celina2009-01-15 23:50:18
QUOTE (Gregori @ Jan 15 2009, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm. Ok. I am willing to admit I am wrong. Just seems like piddly little damage for something so buffed up considering more people fall in the 2500 - 4000 range vs. the 10000 - 14000 range.
I mean the "heavy bleeding" in itself is a joke most times. Though I do love anytime a druid says something, the 'sap' word pops out, like we somehow bleed sap onto our enemies in every scenario that might actually require us to fight.
I mean the "heavy bleeding" in itself is a joke most times. Though I do love anytime a druid says something, the 'sap' word pops out, like we somehow bleed sap onto our enemies in every scenario that might actually require us to fight.
Well, druid cudgel is still piddly against say, warriors or anyone with high physical DMP.
You are right though, the effects of abilities with sap should never be considered when discussing druids.
Kelysa2009-01-16 00:04:26
My poor pool. You are under a Minor Blessing of the Domotheos of Harmony.
You are under a Major Blessing of the Domotheos of Harmony.
You are under a Lesser Blessing of the Domotheos of Beauty.
You are under a Minor Blessing of the Domotheos of Knowledge.
You are under a Minor Blessing of the Domotheos of War.
You are under a Major Blessing of the Domotheos of War.
You are under a Minor Blessing of the Domotheos of Justice.
You are under a Minor Blessing of the Domotheos of Death.
You are under a Major Blessing of the Domotheos of Death.
You are a Moonchilde.
You have skin covered in treebark.
DEF drawdown
DEF moonaura
DEF fire
DEF frost
DEF thirdeye
You are protected by 16 defences.
if anyone cares
