I just had an interesting conversation in another forum concerning bathroom etiquette.

1) I can deal with having to put the toilet seat down before use. What I can't deal with is using the ladies' room in a public place. Those nasty, disgusting women who simply refuse to sit actually squat. In doing so, half these idiots pee all over the toilet seat worse than men do. Then, refuse to clean up after themselves. It literally makes me want to chase down the "woman" who was in there prior to me and make her sit in her own dang pee. I used to work in a convenience store and had to clean the bathrooms. Women are, by far, much filthier than men. At least the men don't leave personal hygiene products laying in the floor.

Arg, I have so many bathroom pet peeves it's unreal.

2) Grunting men in the weight room at the gym. It isn't too bad if they aren't loudly grunting in order to make people think they're Hercules.

3) Women in the locker room who sit on the benches, with naked behinds, without a towel under them. Just eew. After seeing them do that, I got to where I always sat on a towel even if I had clothing on. Just think of the germs/festering disease in gym locker rooms.

4) Guys who just stand, staring at you, while you're trying to do some type of exercise. Aren't they there to workout as well?

Yeah, most of mine have to do with gyms. People can be such filthy creatures. My cats are cleaner.

Anyways, let's hear some of yours.

Generally you're right, unless the man in question is actually strength training. In which case, I can typically understand. When you're going for strength you make yourself push more than you really are able (even if for only two or three reps) and vocalization while pushing up actually helps.

Fortunately, I've worked manual labor for so long I don't really need to go make a fool of myself in public like that. Get about 10 hours of gym work every day.

Plus, vocalization helps build adrenaline, which helps you lift.

Oh, I don't mind some grunting. I've done so myself when trying to push myself. I'm more talking about those who are going far beyond "honest grunting". The ones who you know are just doing it for the attention. These are the same fellas who admire themselves before the mirrors after a very showy session of said grunting, while flexing, grinning from ear to ear, and looking out of the corners of their eyes just to see which lady might see them. It's sort of humerous.

My pet peeve about gyms in general is how men act in the shower rooms. I used to go to the gym frequently, and normally after working up a sweat I'd want to at least rinse off before I go on my way... but not anymore. Now, I just get in my car all grimy and nasty because of this.

You go in the shower room, and all the men are naked. This is acceptable. They're showering. Then you walk out of the shower room to the lockers and they're all still naked. Walking around, talking to each other, shaving at the mirror, doing anything but actually getting dressed. No towels around them, no underwear, nothing. Naked. I swear some of them only go to the gym to hang around naked with other men.

This disturbs me greatly.

My pet peeve is that at work, there are a lot of narrow hallways for some reason, and people decide to save themselves 3 feet of walking by moving to the wrong side of the hallway when going around a corner, causing them to run into anyone coming from the other direction.

And the older they are, the more likely they are to do this. I have a strategy. I wear my gym shorts under my jeans, so I can go in the locker room, take my jeans off, stuff that and my coat in a locker, lock it, and get out. Out in 45 seconds or less.

I agree wholly with the sentiment. I've held having to go to the bathroom for hours to make sure I get to go at home, where I'm 100% sure that there's nothing on the toilet.

Let's see... some of my own pet peeves...

1. People who will talk to you in person, and then their phone rings. The problem isn't receiving a call. It's talking on the phone to that person for a good 5 minutes or more, in front of you, and then they either A. have to go or B. forgot what you were talking about in the first place.

2. People who go out of their way to be jerks. Maybe you guys don't know these people, since you don't live in NYC. But I'm talking about the people who see you running to the elevator and hit the close doors button. The people standing at the doors for the train and see you running to the train and they don't hold the doors open for you to get in. They don't hold the door open even if you're directly behind them. They pay with change for more than $20 of merchandise with a mile long line behind them. Yeah. You know who you are you .

3. Racism. Sexism. (Though the racist, sexist comments received after decking someone can prove quite humorous!)

4. "I'm older than you so I know what I'm doing." I don't care if you're older than me. If I'm telling you a floppy disk doesn't go into the CD-R drive, it's because I actually know what I'm talking about. Bah.


I'm sure I have more I can't recall right now.

45 seconds in a room filled with naked men doing everything they can to call attention to their crotches is still far, far too much. When I go to the gym now, I go dressed in whatever I intend on wearing, and leave in it even if I'm soaked in sweat. Even if this means I have to go home first to get dressed for the gym. It's worth it.

I do that in the summer. Its a little chilly for me to go out in gym shorts these days

Edit: Weird, the TV just started talking about this same issue.

1. People who don't drive responsibly. Moreso, the fact that so many people these days drive like idiots. You just can't get away from bad drivers.
2. People who use horrible grammar, especially those who know it's incorrect and just can't be bothered to correct it.
3. People who turn into foul-mouthed morons online, such as in a game of Halo or any other shooter that all the 13-year-old boys love playing. I don't mind swearing, but they take it to such ridiculous levels that it's not even close to funny any more.

I could keep going for quite a while on this path, but just to sum up: the source of all my problems is other people.

Let's see. I'm pretty odd in that I don't get ticked off by what ticks most people off. Lying about me? I actually think it's fun to see what other people make up about me...but that's not the point.

1. People who dismiss Christians as idiots/uneducated/blind. It's our thing, okay? Just leave us a lone and let us practice our religion!
2. People who think that a guy can't have a fashion/design sense without being gay. I guess I'll put machoism (not masochism!) in here too, as that entire subculture annoys me.
3. Guys who use their lovers just for sex. You're giving the rest of us males a bad name, jerks!

1. I'll leave your religion alone when your religion leaves my lack of religion alone. Agreed? Peace treaty anyone?
2. Straight men simply have a long and comprehensive history of not giving a . So much, that it places doubt into the minds of most people when you do give a .
3. While I agree with this, I have to admit I don't mind when women use me just for sex. If they're hot. Drunk is OK too. Did I just further your pet peeve?

That's how I am, Isuka. I respect other people's beliefs. What I can't stand is when people label Christians as dogmatic.

And yes, you furthered my pet peeve, since you're giving credence to the other illusion I'm trying to dispel: "Guys only care about sex!"

How odd that we got onto religion when this happened just today at my eye doctor's appointment. Some lady and her teen child were sitting two seats over from me. She starts reading, fairly loudly, from her Jehovah's Witness book. I'm not entirely sure what she was reading, but I could tell what it was about. I couldn't care less what religion a person is as long as they aren't standing out in front of my house burning chickens and biting the heads off little puppy dogs. What -does- annoy me is when they're blantantly trying to shove their religion down random strangers' throats in a freaking doctor's office.

Wow, I'm on a roll. Wonder what'll happen tomorrow morning when I have my next appointment with my gynecologist. If I get to hear more preaching, I believe I'll hold my own book-burning session.

Now now, I never said that I only care about sex. I care about other stuff, too. Like.... uh.... DAMN!

You would hate to hear me play any FPS game then, online or otherwise. I don't do it on purpose, though - the littlest things in FPS's tend to startle me into swearing.

See, now I really want to play Halo with you! It's one thing to use expletives when you're surprised or frustrated, but it's an entirely different thing when you're just streaming obscenities and bashing gender, race, and sexual orientation of someone whom you've never even met before. (Yes, it happens a LOT on Xbox Live.)

Yeah, it's really funny to watch someone like that. Someone who lives in my dorm does that. We'll have the door open and I'll hear some shooting down the hall, and then the swearing starts whenever he gets startled. It's really funny.