Casilu2009-01-28 22:43:33
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Jan 28 2009, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe this was a bug, and it was fixed. My kicks always keep up with my tahto regardless of its speed. Nejii knows the details, I think.
Well, they keep pace but 110 to 115 is where the arms regain balance before the legs.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:44:14
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 28 2009, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll trade you for a viable instakill.
Learn to use the instakill and you'll see how viable it is. I hate crunch more than I
hate chestpain because I can stop chestpain with green at least, and crunch, well, if headslam fails to stun due to balancing I'm :censored: because of the way grapples work.Narsrim2009-01-28 22:44:26
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Admin should remove wounding requirements for warrior afflictions and give them momentum instead. -G- Oh the bitching...
Part of your problem is you never parry or stance. You are much easier to fight than Vathael as a result of this, and in turn, it's easier to build momentum. Likewise, I would encourage you to switch over to Ninjakari and fight me. I'll show you how easy it is to shut down momentum when you know the ins-and-outs of it.
You do realize I can't possibly by pass parry unless I get you prone... right?
Unknown2009-01-28 22:46:04
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Jan 28 2009, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be slit locking and mangle whoring like nothing else. Tahtetso just don't get that sort of fire power *g*
And who's saying the constant slitlocking followed by mangles isn't a problem either? Shofangi are an extremely obnoxious class to play. Nekotai are disgusting in their own way, though they are seriously lacking when it comes to the instakill.
Revan2009-01-28 22:46:28
wait, shofangi can instantly kill stonewalls? *peer crumble*
Narsrim2009-01-28 22:47:13
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And who's saying the constant slitlocking followed by mangles isn't a problem either? Shofangi are an extremely obnoxious class to play. Nekotai are disgusting in their own way, though they are seriously lacking when it comes to the instakill.
Says the man with transcendent poisons set on senso. I assure you slit lock/spine followed up with a 6 second crotamine kill would rock your world if you could be slit locked.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:47:24
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Jan 28 2009, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Part of your problem is you never parry or stance. You are much easier to fight than Vathael as a result of this, and in turn, it's easier to build momentum. Likewise, I would encourage you to switch over to Ninjakari and fight me. I'll show you how easy it is to shut down momentum when you know the ins-and-outs of it.
You do realize I can't possibly by pass parry unless I get you prone... right?
You do realize I can't possibly by pass parry unless I get you prone... right?
Stance was on legs 100% of the time, as for the parry, I need to add it into my system (for monks) but for the purposes of the log I posted, my parry was on 50% head/50% chest for the entire duration of the fight.
Narsrim2009-01-28 22:49:02
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stance was on legs 100% of the time, as for the parry, I need to add it into my system (for monks) but for the purposes of the log I posted, my parry was on 50% head/50% chest for the entire duration of the fight.
Well there you go, I never go for head/chest until I've torn you up elsewhere and have you prone. Imagine how powerful warriors would be if the target never parried! You do realize you can stack parry with stance too, right?
Stance legs, parry rleg 50, parry lleg 50. Boom! Narsrim can't touch those girly legs.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:49:14
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Jan 28 2009, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Says the man with transcendent poisons set on senso. I assure you slit lock/spine followed up with a 6 second crotamine kill would rock your world if you could be slit locked.
I said they were lacking but I didn't say the instakill isn't good, with how easily monks can lock you up, yes, 6 second crotamine is nasty.
Narsrim2009-01-28 22:50:46
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I said they were lacking but I didn't say the instakill isn't good, with how easily monks can lock you up, yes, 6 second crotamine is nasty.
I'll gladly switch out chestpain/insta for slit throat and 6 second crota. Make it happen, Thoros! I have faith.
Arix2009-01-28 22:52:41
The only thing more fun than ganking a noncombatant is using cheapass, unbeatably broken skills to gank an otherwise superior opponent
Unknown2009-01-28 22:53:33
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Jan 28 2009, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll gladly switch out chestpain/insta for slit throat and 6 second crota. Make it happen, Thoros! I have faith.
I'll gladly give it to you if the slit throat is a grapple end move
I mean you are this godly monk combatant, aren't you, a slitthroat on grapple end and 6 second crotamine...crap. I'll to get unenemied to Celest so you don't grief my experience all away while I go bash! ;_;Desitrus2009-01-28 22:53:58
Yurika abuses the legacy auto-kata system, this is how you can tell:
It would be easier to determine if he's moving faster than 4s without autokata if you would use timestamps. What I do see is about six commands entered before you even attempt to apply to chest.
QUOTE
03:55:21.991a | With a quick spin, Yurika strikes Thoros's chest with a twin dragon tahto staff.
03:55:21.995a | Thoros coughs and wheezes as he is struck.
03:55:22.000a | Thoros gasps and clutches his chest as it is struck with a crack.
03:55:22.004a | With a quick spin, Yurika strikes Thoros's gut with a twin dragon tahto staff.
03:55:22.007a | As Thoros is stabbed in the gut, his flesh is drilled until his spine snaps.
03:55:22.011a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.016a |
03:55:22.023a | Thoros takes a drink from a coral vial.
03:55:22.027a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.276a |
03:55:22.279a | Thoros takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his chest.
03:55:22.282a | HEALTH APPLIED TO chest chest chest!!!
03:55:22.287a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.565a |
03:55:22.568a | Thoros reads a scroll.
03:55:22.575a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.856a |
03:55:22.860a | You feel the Substratus channel open again.
03:55:22.864a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.325a |
03:55:23.328a | Thoros takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his gut.
03:55:23.331a | HEALTH APPLIED TO gut gut gut!!!
03:55:23.336a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.623a |
03:55:23.626a | You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Yurika.
03:55:23.630a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.636a |
03:55:23.641a | Thoros eats a sparkleberry.
03:55:23.644a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.649a |
03:55:23.651a | You feel the Id channel open again.
03:55:23.654a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w esilrxkb<>-
03:55:24.335a |
03:55:24.337a | Yurika's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
03:55:24.341a | Yurika twirls a twin dragon tahto staff elegantly, then drives it into Thoros's chest with all her might.
03:55:24.347a | A sudden spasm of pain jolts Thoros as his frail heart explodes in his chest. He twitches helplessly on the ground before falling still in the calm repose of death.
03:55:24.356a | Thoros has been slain by Yurika.
03:55:21.995a | Thoros coughs and wheezes as he is struck.
03:55:22.000a | Thoros gasps and clutches his chest as it is struck with a crack.
03:55:22.004a | With a quick spin, Yurika strikes Thoros's gut with a twin dragon tahto staff.
03:55:22.007a | As Thoros is stabbed in the gut, his flesh is drilled until his spine snaps.
03:55:22.011a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.016a |
03:55:22.023a | Thoros takes a drink from a coral vial.
03:55:22.027a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.276a |
03:55:22.279a | Thoros takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his chest.
03:55:22.282a | HEALTH APPLIED TO chest chest chest!!!
03:55:22.287a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.565a |
03:55:22.568a | Thoros reads a scroll.
03:55:22.575a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w elrxkb<>-
03:55:22.856a |
03:55:22.860a | You feel the Substratus channel open again.
03:55:22.864a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.325a |
03:55:23.328a | Thoros takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his gut.
03:55:23.331a | HEALTH APPLIED TO gut gut gut!!!
03:55:23.336a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.623a |
03:55:23.626a | You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Yurika.
03:55:23.630a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.636a |
03:55:23.641a | Thoros eats a sparkleberry.
03:55:23.644a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w eslrxkb<>-
03:55:23.649a |
03:55:23.651a | You feel the Id channel open again.
03:55:23.654a | 7091h, 7662m, 6329e, 10p, 26660en, 32720w esilrxkb<>-
03:55:24.335a |
03:55:24.337a | Yurika's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
03:55:24.341a | Yurika twirls a twin dragon tahto staff elegantly, then drives it into Thoros's chest with all her might.
03:55:24.347a | A sudden spasm of pain jolts Thoros as his frail heart explodes in his chest. He twitches helplessly on the ground before falling still in the calm repose of death.
03:55:24.356a | Thoros has been slain by Yurika.
It would be easier to determine if he's moving faster than 4s without autokata if you would use timestamps. What I do see is about six commands entered before you even attempt to apply to chest.
Ashteru2009-01-28 22:57:34
QUOTE (Arix @ Jan 28 2009, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only thing more fun than ganking a noncombatant is using cheapass, unbeatably broken skills to gank an otherwise superior opponent
Why are you even posting in this thread...
Romero2009-01-28 23:45:59
I have had this skill happen to me by Yurika numerous times (though sadly I don't have the logs and thats why I didn't gripe without them). All you have to do is let her have 5 momentum. You can tank her kicks and attacks the whole time and once she is at 5 momentum, she will just double afflict you with chestpain severspine, and as seen there, will instakill you before you can cure with regen. I think this was a problem with ninjakari and they had a special report to fix it. Do the same please.
and lets not joke that 'oh its hard to get to 5 momentum', she could walk in clumsy and just instakill all if she really wanted to after prebuilding 5 momentum
and lets not joke that 'oh its hard to get to 5 momentum', she could walk in clumsy and just instakill all if she really wanted to after prebuilding 5 momentum
Desitrus2009-01-28 23:53:56
QUOTE (Romero @ Jan 28 2009, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have had this skill happen to me by Yurika numerous times (though sadly I don't have the logs and thats why I didn't gripe without them). All you have to do is let her have 5 momentum. You can tank her kicks and attacks the whole time and once she is at 5 momentum, she will just double afflict you with chestpain severspine, and as seen there, will instakill you before you can cure with regen. I think this was a problem with ninjakari and they had a special report to fix it. Do the same please.
and lets not joke that 'oh its hard to get to 5 momentum', she could walk in clumsy and just instakill all if she really wanted to after prebuilding 5 momentum
and lets not joke that 'oh its hard to get to 5 momentum', she could walk in clumsy and just instakill all if she really wanted to after prebuilding 5 momentum
That's not what she's using on you. She's using a legacy system that was supposed to have had its speed bonus removed but apparently didn't. She still can't do what she does in the log I JUST posted by pre-momentum to 5, it's unique to 11 form katas.
Tael2009-01-28 23:59:00
Personally, I feel that the biggest thing wrong with Monks is their ability to hit warrior afflictions in a matter of seconds when it takes a Warrior about ten times longer to hit a skill like that.
SeverSpine, Hemiplegy, BurstOrgans, Windpipe, SlitThroat. They're all prime examples of afflictions that we, as Warriors, work for. Yet, Monks are able to deliver these afflictions at an unprecedented rate of speed without the need of set-up most of the time.
Monks should have their own afflictions, instead of drawing from the pool of Warrior ones, or put onto the same standards as Warriors. Or at least something.
To be truthful, I don't think Monks had much planning in them to begin with (Yes, you can argue that the players themselves thought of them, but see my comment below on playerbased designs). I believe it was just a concept thrown out there and has since caused only frustration from the playerbase rather than enjoyment. I'm certainly not enjoying not being able to throw any semblance of an offense against an imbalanced class.
Personally, Charune. While I respect the time and investment that the administrationand the certain players put into the envoy system, I find myself having little faith in it. Lusternia is still in a state of being heavily imbalanced. It took god knows how long for the envoys to think of a solution for Choke, the issue only coming up until it was made in the Report for this month. My impression of Envoys, from these examples, is extremely skewed for the worst.
SeverSpine, Hemiplegy, BurstOrgans, Windpipe, SlitThroat. They're all prime examples of afflictions that we, as Warriors, work for. Yet, Monks are able to deliver these afflictions at an unprecedented rate of speed without the need of set-up most of the time.
Monks should have their own afflictions, instead of drawing from the pool of Warrior ones, or put onto the same standards as Warriors. Or at least something.
To be truthful, I don't think Monks had much planning in them to begin with (Yes, you can argue that the players themselves thought of them, but see my comment below on playerbased designs). I believe it was just a concept thrown out there and has since caused only frustration from the playerbase rather than enjoyment. I'm certainly not enjoying not being able to throw any semblance of an offense against an imbalanced class.
Personally, Charune. While I respect the time and investment that the administrationand the certain players put into the envoy system, I find myself having little faith in it. Lusternia is still in a state of being heavily imbalanced. It took god knows how long for the envoys to think of a solution for Choke, the issue only coming up until it was made in the Report for this month. My impression of Envoys, from these examples, is extremely skewed for the worst.
Casilu2009-01-29 00:03:33
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Learn to use the instakill and you'll see how viable it is. I hate crunch more than I hate chestpain because I can stop chestpain with green at least, and crunch, well, if headslam fails to stun due to balancing I'm :censored: because of the way grapples work.
hate chestpain because I can stop chestpain with green at least, and crunch, well, if headslam fails to stun due to balancing I'm :censored: because of the way grapples work.Didn't it take Asmodea like an hour to do it on you? It takes every possible balance we have and has a momentum loss. Not to mention that it is almost a given it will fail on the first try. It took my seven tries to do it myself without any healing. I was at 7k wounds by the time I was done.
Unknown2009-01-29 00:11:36
Pretty sure chestpain business is being taken care of in upcoming report. As well as general Ninjakari/Tahtetso business.
Isuka2009-01-29 00:36:06
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And who's saying the constant slitlocking followed by mangles isn't a problem either? Shofangi are an extremely obnoxious class to play. Nekotai are disgusting in their own way, though they are seriously lacking when it comes to the instakill.
I agree, nekotai get an accelerated crotamine... which is still curable like regular crotamine. That's kinda weak considering you have to get to 5 momentum and boost for five power to use it. Anyone with green in lowmagic and a half decent curing system can break the lock and cure before they die. I'd like it if we had an actual instakill instead.
Of course, I'm not certain what requirements you'd have to have for it. Nekotai don't build vibrations, for example.
