Well, the chest pain thing is certainly on the list for the momentum report, so you guys might as well add opinions on how to fix it without the sarcastic 'omg delete monks' suggestions!

Make chest pain a mending cure?
Require some other after like breakchest in addition to chest pain before heart kill works?
Etc etc.

Quite right. Unlike the overpowered issues though, don't expect that to be fixed.

Doesn't hemi stop parry/stance?

I don't think anyone is going to believe you if you try to say you can't easily work around stance and parry.

Momentum (and monks in general) just need to be amnesia dusted. They are really out of hand at this point.

Hemi doesn't stop parry/stance I think. It stops standing.

Which can stop parrying, and maybe(?) stancing.

If you're sprawled it stops you from standing which stops parry/stance. I never said otherwise.

Point is that Hemiplegy stops parrying and stancing with your description.

Edit: Because Paralysis technically 'prones', and a Monk can venom with Morphite. Either or.

Double hemi also stops you from putting more myrtle in your pipe. Pretty easy to smoke someone out of myrtle when you can double it. 5 hits and the pipe is empty, if you hit before they refill, they are done.

The way around that is 2 myrtle pipes. Smoke from the second, refill the first. Empty and refill the second when you aren't being hemi-spammed.

Are you seriously trying to imply that Ninjakari and Tahtetso are "better" than Shofangi/Nekotai? Do we really need to post logs of Tarkers hitting people for slit throat + slickness + tendon in a single combo?

Of course, we can't override parry so that's moot. Blademasters, however, can get around parry a little bit easier. I wonder why this isn't so big of a deal with them...

It has been. The answer was, again, 2 myrtle pipes.

Always has been for double hemi spam.

I was being facetious. I'm quite aware of how to handle it. You can use a second pipe. I personally just parry.

We (administration) actually made that report because nothing had been discussed about choke for quite some time. A change should be coming with the other January changes.

I disagree that Lusternia is heavily imbalanced. There are problems, sure, and they're constantly being looked at. From personal experience I also haven't seen it. Most of the major imbalances were already fixed.

True, but why the hell should you have to carry an extra pipe just becase of one class?

Why not make hemiplegy a twohanded, lose 2 momentum move? >:)

Because that is an extremely minor concession, deal with it (also BMs can do it too so that's 5 classes...Alger used to throw it around a lot.)

Ok.

Look at Pureblade.

Now look at any monk except maybe Shofangi, but maybe them too.

I believe Cookie Monster can describe this situation far more eloquently than I ever could.

Sometimes all you can do is point in disbelief, and say "BAD THING". Or in this case, "Overpowered".

Well, in that case, you simply say that one plate has one more. That's the only reason necessary to point out the difference.

I know while I was always negative in posting, a year or two back, this always was sort of my impression. I thought the system as a whole needs an overhaul, but I'm reserving my opinion until I see if much has changed on that front. If it hasn't, I still advocate my then idea to make Envoys a little more thoughtful and sure for their submissions by making them public in some fashion so others who are not in the position with some kind of clue can make a comment beforehand or discuss the downsides of the proposed change. It works for other Iron Realms games with a moderate level of success.