Casilu2009-02-25 06:16:21
Rika, I'm curious as to why you think I'm scum.
Fania2009-02-25 06:21:20
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 24 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And yet you have no qualms in speculating on who other people (such as Noola and Archer) might be. Not buying it.
Also, I know you are not Big Four.
Also, I know you are not Big Four.
Dag said if you have any information to show which people are not Big Four to bring it forward. I did. I already said if I'm wrong then fine.
Shiri2009-02-25 06:22:11
That wasn't so much "informatin" as "assertion"...
Unknown2009-02-25 06:23:22
I think that Casilu would be the best option to lynch.
If we find out she is town:
If we find out she is scum:
If we find out she is town:
- And she is not lying about her Pheonix ability, she comes back the next day.
- If she lied about the Pheonix ability, means she had something to hide anyway.
- Regardless if she returns or not, we gain more information
If we find out she is scum:
- And she's not lying about her Pheonix ability, we're screwed
- Or it could reveal some way to counter this ability, so we can still win.
- If she had been lying about her Pheonix ability to protect herself from kills, we get another mafia down.
Unknown2009-02-25 06:24:25
I forgot one more plus point:
Regardless of whether she is town or scum, there is a chance that the kidnapped people might break free.
Regardless of whether she is town or scum, there is a chance that the kidnapped people might break free.
Casilu2009-02-25 06:24:34
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 24 2009, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that Casilu would be the best option to lynch.
If we find out she is town:
If we find out she is scum:
If we find out she is town:
- And she is not lying about her Pheonix ability, she comes back the next day.
- If she lied about the Pheonix ability, means she had something to hide anyway.
- Regardless if she returns or not, we gain more information
If we find out she is scum:
- And she's not lying about her Pheonix ability, we're screwed
- Or it could reveal some way to counter this ability, so we can still win.
- If she had been lying about her Pheonix ability to protect herself from kills, we get another mafia down.
And if you lynch me how do you find out if I'm scum?
Rika2009-02-25 06:25:17
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 25 2009, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rika, I'm curious as to why you think I'm scum.
Quite simple. Out of three nights, only one person has been killed by by an unknown source (Arix, Lucas, night zero). Night one, we lost Dai (Fox) to Renthur (Wolf). There have been two missing people so far (Tekora, Sadhyra). You say you also "caught" Doman, who escaped. Rather convenient, as he is now dead and cannot confirm or deny this for you.
Also, Bowser is part of the Subspace Army.
Casilu2009-02-25 06:25:45
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 24 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And if you lynch me how do you find out if I'm scum?
Let me explain, actually. If I do have the phoenix ability, you won't get my role and therefore won't know if I'm scum. If you follow this path and lynch me, hoping the lack of nightkill explains that I am scum, then the mafia would simply not nightkill anyone.
Casilu2009-02-25 06:26:42
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 24 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, Bowser is part of the Subspace Army.
So was Ganondorf, but look at page one, he was town.
Unknown2009-02-25 06:27:02
Because you said that you do not truly die, just revive the next day. I'm assuming that there will be a role-reveal when you die, because unlike protection, which prevents dying, you don't protect yourself, just that you self-revive the next day.
Rika2009-02-25 06:27:19
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 25 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dag said if you have any information to show which people are not Big Four to bring it forward. I did. I already said if I'm wrong then fine.
Point stands. You have no qualms in speculating on whether or not -others- were Big Four, but not yourself.
Fania2009-02-25 06:29:41
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 24 2009, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Point stands. You have no qualms in speculating on whether or not -others- were Big Four, but not yourself.
How could I speculate on myself being the Big Four? I was using the information that I had in front of me to the best of my ability. I didn't know the rules were "no speculation".
Rika2009-02-25 06:31:29
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 25 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How could I speculate on myself being the Big Four? I was using the information that I had in front of me to the best of my ability. I didn't know the rules were "no speculation".
You don't need to speculate on your own role. You just tell it to us. That's all the information you need, and have.
And WTF is this about speculation being against rules?
Unknown2009-02-25 06:34:07
This discussion confuses me. I have the feeling that you two are not even on the same wavelength as each other.
Casilu2009-02-25 06:35:29
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 24 2009, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because you said that you do not truly die, just revive the next day. I'm assuming that there will be a role-reveal when you die, because unlike protection, which prevents dying, you don't protect yourself, just that you self-revive the next day.
Part of me is quite certain that the role-reveal upon death will not happen because I will be coming back.
Fania2009-02-25 06:37:49
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 24 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't need to speculate on your own role. You just tell it to us. That's all the information you need, and have.
And WTF is this about speculation being against rules?
And WTF is this about speculation being against rules?
I know I just have to tell you. I was pointing out that your statement didn't make sense, even though I knew what you meant.
I know others have made educated guesses about things and I thought it was okay to do that. I made a speculation because I thought it would help. I didn't do it because I thought I would confuse things more. I'm sorry if I caused confusion.
Unknown2009-02-25 06:39:04
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 25 2009, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Part of me is quite certain that the role-reveal upon death will not happen because I will be coming back.
If that is the case, that is one OP ability that you have. All other death immunities are either % chance (Noola) or limited (Kiriwe). Yours is infinite, 100% chance, and doesn't reveal your role?
Unknown2009-02-25 06:40:38
OK, sure, you can't use your night abilities. That doesn't seem like a large enough drawback compared to the rest so far, and we have had a lot of immunities.
Rika2009-02-25 06:41:33
...There wasn't any confusion caused. I pointed your speculation up because your reason for not telling us anything was that you didn't want scum to be able to narrow down who the Big Four were, which is completely hypocritical considering that you had speculated on two people who you believed not to be the Big Four just a page or two back.
Is that too hard for you to understand?
Is that too hard for you to understand?
Casilu2009-02-25 06:41:35
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 24 2009, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that is the case, that is one OP ability that you have. All other death immunities are either % chance (Noola) or limited (Kiriwe). Yours is infinite, 100% chance, and doesn't reveal your role?
I die. And I return. It just stops me from doing my job.