Thoros raises the interesting point that crucify still makes this setup OP because if you can hinder them long enough for even one eq, you can trample/sac.

Meanwhile, Malarious demonstrates that fear is "obscenely stupid", crunch is a "long term win" (but not hunger), ninjakari is "alot more tame", and perfectfifth should stop tumble in progress. Hmmm.

Wouldn't the obvious fix to make trample not affect crucified people? It doesn't make a lot of sense to begin with. Is the horse punching them with its hooves? I mean, obviously a crucified person is flagged as prone, but it's not like they're lying on the ground, they're nailed to a freaking cross.

Shhh this is forums, you arent allowed to use logic.

@Shiri: Yep we will go with that. Also you can actually 'cure' hunger. Then again I killed revan and romero while starving so you be the judge of that. Pfifth stops it, then a change occurs and it stops, you bug it and it changes back till the next tweak. 3p should stop A tumble, pinleg which is far more doable should not. Ninja are alot more tame, I didnt say perfect, but thats what the report is supposed to handle I imagine.

EDIT: Removed note on a similar tactic used now was removed from another guild.

But when you look at it that way, when you're stunned/paralyzed/webbed you're also not prone. You just have a P in the prompt.

How does Trample break your bones when you're standing up that way?

Making it only work when the target is actually prone didn't seem to be liked, though.

Only cause most people cant actually prone easily enough to make this worthwhile.

Heck you can be entangled and not on the ground.

Yes.

But it is the exact same logic as not being able to be trampled while crucified.

I was agreeing with you as to why it just checks for prone and not real prone

That's true, I suppose. But can't we judge each instance on a case-by-case basis, and in this case, flag crucify as a "seperate" type of prone, where trample doesn't affect it? It seems that would solve the problem while retaining the usefulness of trample.

Outside of trample whoring, the only applicable uses for trample tend to be sap locks and sacrifice. It is almost made for sacrifice, and it can be used in solo sacrifices I assure you, even before the beast balance thing.

I'm very disappointed in you. You neglected to bring up the random momentum loss from bullrage, which makes it the most annoying skill (to me) I can use right now.

Oh yeah, I knew there was something else I wanted to add into that post...I doubt Malarious has ever even seen bullrage or knows what it does. I was gonna comment on that originally but the forums were lagged to crap and something weird happened and deleted the second half of my post so it didn't get through.

Excuses. Some AI program you are.

You have the A, but not the I. Haha!

Hunger is not a long term win. Hunger sucks.

I've lost to Romero in a spar because of hunger, that was entirely preventable and 100% my fault.

I wish pfifth stopped tumble, but for purely selfish reasons.

I liked how everyone ignored you.

Pinleg has a wound requirement that you can keep up with decently 1v1 with splendours. 2 lunges on one leg assuming you have heavy wounds on said leg means it takes one writhe/contort to get out of them both. 2p for lunge means it can only be done 5 times in a row before you're reduced to strikes (Not taking anything in beastmastery into account since its under review and -should- be nerfed!) which hit parry and stance. If you let a warrior get enough wounds to let him pin both legs in one combo with strikes, it was bad parrying/stancing.

What you are really ranting about is probably multiple warriors building 3k wounds in a gankfest which is hardly different from knockdown stun + amissio + amissio + amissio + absolve or whatever else.

EDIT: Sorry, correction from Vathael. The max number of times you can writhe from pinlegs/impales to clear them is 2 even if 2 warriors hit you for 4 pins.

Four-legged discrimination?

Melville's an Axelord, we can cure you!

Four legs good, two legs better! Four legs good, two legs better!