[Mafia]Angels and Demons: GAIA

by Daganev

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Zynna2009-03-11 20:37:18
Bleh...this did not go as I hoped. I was trying to give hints without being too obvious (reading back through my posts, I thought I made it too obvious of my role, but I don't know...). I am the angel Raziel; I am the investigator. I investigated Rika last night, and she is who she says. Which means that Diamondais is definitely a demon because he's claiming her name. And possibly Silferras too for trying to force me to roleclaim.
Furien2009-03-11 21:00:53
Okay, conflicting roleclaims left and right. I don't know, Silferras and Diamondais both haven't been giving me much scum signals compared to you and Rika.
Diamondais2009-03-11 21:41:41
I'm the angel Raphael, I am the healer of God in that I am the town doctor.

Last night I protected Arix.
Daganev2009-03-11 22:11:01
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Arix2009-03-11 23:16:06
I would like to point out that Zynna is new to mafia and could be easily flustered, as opposed to Silferras and Diamondais, who have played several games and would know how to not act scummy by this point
Arix2009-03-11 23:22:21
Also, UNVOTE
Zynna2009-03-12 00:28:09
QUOTE (diamondais @ Mar 11 2009, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm the angel Raphael, I am the healer of God in that I am the town doctor.

Last night I protected Arix.


That's not possible if you're saying your name is Raphael. I don't know who the doctor is but I do know who Rika is: Raphael.
Unknown2009-03-12 01:14:32
Regarding me being quiet: I don't post overly much in these Mafia games (my past game record shows that). I post when I have stuff to say.

Now, it makes absolutely no sense for Zynna to come out and claim this stuff, unless she is who she says she is. If she's not, she's dead if we find out Rika isn't who she says.

The tricky thing is, I can feasibly see both a rezzer and a protector. However, both by the same name seems unlikely, so odds are we have either one demon, or two (Diamondais or Rika/Zynna). If Diamondais is innocent, we lose a protector, whittling our avoidance of Demon nightkills down to only roleblocking. If Rika is innocent, we lose an investigator tonight, unless the roleblocker guesses well OR we have a protector lurking who can protect Zynna.

Here is what I'm going to suggest: Caerulo is innocent. Those of us who are Angels know why (go back and look for a certain phrase in one of his posts). Let's use him as the coordinator - if we have any special roles lurking, contact him. Let's form up a network, very carefully. If he gets information on other roles not revealed, we can make a more accurate decision over who to lynch. For now, let's give that some time and avoid lynching without doing so carefully.

Also - once we DO lynch, we need to ensure that our night roles work in conjunction, so we also need to plan these before we finalize voting.
Diamondais2009-03-12 01:36:03
QUOTE (Zynna @ Mar 11 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's not possible if you're saying your name is Raphael. I don't know who the doctor is but I do know who Rika is: Raphael.

I know who I am.

With either lynch, the truth will come out.
Unknown2009-03-12 03:35:59
QUOTE (Sadhyra @ Mar 12 2009, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, it makes absolutely no sense for Zynna to come out and claim this stuff, unless she is who she says she is. If she's not, she's dead if we find out Rika isn't who she says.


Yesterday, I was leaning towards Rika being scum. But yes, it makes no sense why Zynna would draw attention to herself if she were scum. What kind of town would disregard their investigator, after they've come to the trouble of claiming to save a townie?

QUOTE (Sadhyra @ Mar 12 2009, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is what I'm going to suggest: Caerulo is innocent. Those of us who are Angels know why (go back and look for a certain phrase in one of his posts). Let's use him as the coordinator - if we have any special roles lurking, contact him. Let's form up a network, very carefully. If he gets information on other roles not revealed, we can make a more accurate decision over who to lynch. For now, let's give that some time and avoid lynching without doing so carefully.

Also - once we DO lynch, we need to ensure that our night roles work in conjunction, so we also need to plan these before we finalize voting.


How can we 'contact' him secretly, without the scum knowing? Maybe that's just something you alone have.
Unknown2009-03-12 03:48:36
The List
1. Furien
2. Rika - Raphael (Rezzer: two shot, one used, if successful, next night cannot rezz)
3. Silferras - (Roleblocker)
4. Caerulo - Angel (Vanilla)
5. Doman - Human (Vanilla)
6. Solanis
7. Enero
8. Sadhyra
9. Arix
10. Ayisdra
11. Diamondais - Raphael (Doctor)
12. Zynna - Raziel (Investigator)


Let us not forget that scum could have the innocent ability, or some shapeshift ability. My gut feeling is still on Rika.
Rika2009-03-12 03:51:25
Meh. Not sure it was a great idea for our investigator to just come out and claim in this situation, because of the reason Sadhyra pointed out. However, I still stand by what I said. I am Raphael. Two-shot ressurection, cannot use them back-to-back if the first is successful.
Unknown2009-03-12 03:58:48
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Mar 12 2009, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let us not forget that scum could have the innocent ability, or some shapeshift ability. My gut feeling is still on Rika.


Let us not forget, what made us suspicious of Rika in the first place. It was that nothing happened in the night, and Silferras claiming she roleblocked Rika. That, is already guesswork.

The odds of the scum having some innocence ability is unlikely, I would think. I don't think a demon could fool an angel investigator into thinking he was angel. Angels and Demons are pretty opposite things. Unless.. fallen angels?
Unknown2009-03-12 04:11:42
QUOTE (Solanis @ Mar 12 2009, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let us not forget, what made us suspicious of Rika in the first place. It was that nothing happened in the night, and Silferras claiming she roleblocked Rika. That, is already guesswork.

The odds of the scum having some innocence ability is unlikely, I would think. I don't think a demon could fool an angel investigator into thinking he was angel. Angels and Demons are pretty opposite things. Unless.. fallen angels?

Umm. The whole point of an innocence ability is so that the scum can fool investigators. What is the point of an innocence ability on a townie?
Unknown2009-03-12 04:14:01
That's what I meant. Sorry for my weird syntax.
What I mean is, it's unlikely for big bad demons to have an innocence ability. What kind of power could a demon possess that makes him look (and smell) like an angel?
Unknown2009-03-12 04:17:03
From MafiaWiki:

A common addition to the Mafia family. The Godfather heads the family, and is in charge of sending night kill choices to the Game Moderator. Also, the Godfather usually appears innocent to Cops. In games with multiple families or other roles that can kill at night (such as the Vigilante), the Godfather may also be immune to being killed at night.
Unknown2009-03-12 04:21:14
Yes, I know that such an ability does exist in mafia. Still don't think it's likely.
Unknown2009-03-12 05:13:40
We can PM each other through Daganav (I asked him to make sure). So...that's how we'd contact Caerulo.
Unknown2009-03-12 05:14:21
Also, the Godfather is a very common role. That's a good point to bring up - investigation alone does not innocence confirm.
Unknown2009-03-12 05:22:04
I'm new to forum mafia, but if the scum had an innocence ability, wouldn't Rika have just come up as an angel? There's no reason (as far as I'm aware) that a demon would be able to masquerade specifically as Raphael.