Exactly. Wait, Veyrzhul is a healer?

Until Vey I was the ONLY healer. And yesh he is, quite good in combat too somehow..

Healing isn't the walking pile of combat crap a lot of people make it out to be. Aurawarp+hindering=omfgodly in groups. Plus, it's really nice for bashing.

Yeah, I'm the only Celestine Astrologer that is currently stock inventory. Personally, I'd much rather be a Healer, I only chose Astrology because the Celestines needed one, and right now I can't afford to switch over to Healing.

So I say, go with Healing. It's fun and great for bashing. Sure, it's a poor choice for PvP since you lack reliable offence, but it's a lot of fun to use.

As I read it, you can currently "cure" the progression to Inquisition using focus spirit. If you happen to do this during Infidel, it totally wrecks the process AND leaves the Celestine with at a huge power loss (it takes 6p to get up to Infidel leaving you with 4p, which means you can't even Absolve as that costs 8p). As a result, it's a ridiculously massive nerf to Celestines as it's now almost impossible to Inquisition someone who has focus spirit.

It also wasn't announced. It wasn't even an Envoy suggestion. I'm not sure what it is other than silly.

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It also is a real fun time if you happen to have wasted your Enigma, World, and Wrath trying to get that Inquisition too...

I enjoyed astrology as a Celestine. I enjoyed buffing myself and others, and giving penalties to enemies, plus its helpful to have people to warn of weakenings.

Reads like he's trying to persuade you to accept an envoy suggestion.

This was not a change. Were it to have been changed, it would have been announced. However, I guess it just wasn't realized this was possible. Looking at the code, it seems like originally focus spiriting was meant to cure it, though. Not saying it should, either.

Judgement will naturally be reserved for when the report is looked at.

And for my own curiosity's sake, I wanted to check how far back it's been like this. It's always been like this.

@Charune

I'm confused.

Does focus spirit currently just stop the glow or does it additionally stop the progression of the sequence? Focus Spirit -has- always stopped the glow, but it never had any impact on progressing further in the sequence (you just had to blow massive mana trying to pull off some fancy guesswork). As I understand it, focus spirit is now stopping the glow AND stopping the progression.

Assuming it's just stopping the glow... then I'm going to be really angry with some whiny Celestines.

It is apparently curing the entire thing now (which it was "supposed to do" instead of just curing the glow).

Because it's been done a billion times, and I think blackout-soulless and inqui-soulless have been done so much that people don't even bother exploring the skills that Celestines have. Yeah, it works, and that's awesome. It's good that the class has a vanilla strategy that is reasonably effective, but I see no challenge in that, and I have no interest in rehashing the work that Amaru did five years ago. Celestines aren't druids. I'm really damn tired of cookie cutter, predictable, progressive combat.

Focus spirit stops the glow if done while Hereticed and stops the entire sequence if done while Infideled.

This is how it's been since day 1, from what I've looked up.

Then why did you pick Celestine?

You are 100% wrong then. I extensively tested this as a Celestine.

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Since day 1 up until Geb pointed out an issue a several months ago, it was possible to Inquisition immediately after Infidel. You didn't need to wait for a glow. I imagine this may have been changed then and it wasn't noticed, but it's royally retarded. You should not be able to disrupt a sequenced (read: takes 12 or more seconds to do) 11p instant kill by blowing some mana you don't need to worry about.

Just because the class has an easy mode doesn't mean he has to utilise it. (My vote's for astrology, by the way, since it seems to have a better mix of both utility/offense.)

... what? You've always had to wait for the glow after infidel.

Nope. Hence the "fix." Geb and I tested it followed by Geb submitting a report.

I believe it was even noted in the announce that you could always Inquisition immediately following Infidel hence why "team" Inquisition was so powerful (normally you didn't regain the power to do it until the glow, but with refresh power, it was possible).

There is a reason something is cookie cutter: it is because it has shown itself as wide-spread effective. This is not to say you cannot be innovative, but when a cookie cutter build emerges, it is typically after exhaustive comparison between several other options. I don't see any reason not to take Tarot, really. :/

My two cents.

In terms of fun, Astrology. It's just more entertaining to use as it changes literally from person to person.

In terms of overall effectiveness and function, Tarot. Great skillset, and tons of uses.

Although in the right hands Astrology CAN be very, very powerful.