Bah, disregard the first one. Stupid computer.

deadline, or no?

At this point, if I get home and nothing further has occured, I will role the dice and a random person is going to get killed. (that's about 4-5 hours from now)

I'll be honest, I haven't voted much because there isn't much going on but accusations being thrown back and forth. I'm not sure if I want a deadline, but I think it would make some stuff happen a bit faster, and perhaps make people make mistakes so we will know who to vote for.

I'll go with yes, deadline.

Cute. Y'know Kiri, a vote ain't gonna make me suddenly chatty. Especially since, on re-reading, you were the one who got Archer2 to vote for me by claiming that I was pointing out a contradiction in Narsrim's post. I originally mistook Renthur for making the first mistake, but it appears I was mistaken. He did, in fact, say that Narsrim was going against what he says himself by "overanalyzing" me. Did I get it right this time Renny?



But let me get to the point. Though I'm surprised you haven't got it yet, I find Narsrim suspicious because of his *drumroll* defensiveness. Let's take a look back.



Around this point it all started. I say that Noola sounds suspicious because she does this and that. I say Dai is suspicious because of his oddball post where he votes on Renthur. I find Azazel/Fyler strange because of the lore surrounding it. And I find Narsrim suspicious because I feel that he is manipulating my post. And that's where the fun begins. Y'see what makes Noola, Dai and Fyler so different from Narsrim? None of them jumped on the defensive and started to insinuate that I was out to get them to draw attention from me.



That there. That's what made me really suspicious. Why was he so defensive? Of course, it wasn't certain just yet, so the time came to play some baiting, and it paid off.



Notice the funny part there? "I seem to turn and vote against people who question me". Funny I never voted for Fyler then. "Most randomly..." yeah, funny that ain't it. I did a random vote of Renthur in the beginning. Since then, I haven't voted for anyone except Narsrim. Do you consider that a random vote? What about this?



See this is why he was perpetually in the process of writing up an "analysis". Because he couldn't ever write up an "analysis" of something that wasn't there. I wanted to wait to trap him on that, but if you're so impatient, then suit yourself.



Because if you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is little I can do to convince you. But really, I think Renthur summed it up best.



Because as he noticed, Narsrim is doing exactly what he claims he isn't doing.



And hey, of course Kiriwe is gonna defend me if she thinks I'm not scum. After all, it's not in HER interest to lynch a townie.

Really, how has her voting been random when she's hardly done any of it? She votes about as much as I post speculations. Narsrim has been going after her from day one when even most felt exactly as she did, and you all confuse me. You vote for me saying not posting speculations are bad, and you also vote for Kira for actually doing so. And Narsrim is doing just what he says Kira is, refusing to answer questions and just asking more to shift attention. As for the first point, there's this

which was when the general consensus was that at least Kiriwe was being scummish. I don't think Narsrim has even given a proper answer anywhere, he's also been 'analyzing her voting pattern' for about two days now.

It is very disheartening that we are having either a deadline or a random die roll for someone to die and night to occur. I say if it comes to a die roll, the non-actives/non-participants should be the ones who get rolled to get killed off.

Eh, a vote for pressure doesn't hurt anybody, really. I just wanted to see something happen, since the thread was like a ghost town.
Unvote

After seeing you lay it all out like that, I am seeing the problem with Narsrim's posting pattern. It was hard for me to pick it all out of the thread, mostly because I don't have the patience to go back and look.
Vote: Narsrim

You still need to work on the quoting thing, Kira. Don't put quotes within quotes, it's very confusing and hard to tell who said what, especially if you don't put names on them. Well, at least it's hard for me.

I think we are getting somewhere now, so I don't think the deadline/die roll is necessary anymore.

I'm hoping.

I don't. We aren't going to get anywhere with the same people saying the same things. We want to get somewhere ... Renthur needs to vote. Casilu needs to vote. Shaddus needs to vote. Dai needs to vote. Archer needs to vote. We have 11 alive with almost 1/2 the people in the game not voting.

Renthur's voting. He has a vote for Narsrim. And it was meant as a joke Kiriwe. But okay, I'll try to refrain from quotes within quotes. I just didn't want to be accused again for doing something I didn't do. Sorry if it was offensive.

And yeah, please no die roll? We might finally be getting somewhere.

Yeah, I never removed my vote, it's still sittin' there from a few pages back.

I do stand corrected. Renther is voting. Five people are, six are not. Even if the five voting decided on voting for one person, we wouldn't have enough for a lynch. Given that Renther is voting ... and at least reading the thread ... I will vote for the 2nd lowest poster, who is a non-voter.

UNVOTE: Renther
VOTE: Archer2

I don't need to do anything. I'll vote when I feel someone needs to die. It sounds to me like you're almost trying to rush things. Now that the light is currently on Narsrim, I'll vote for him based on his next post.

I note from your post that you didn’t pose a single question to me so I assume you have none. You have suggested I’m failing to answer questions, but you also aren’t posing any, which makes me even more suspicious.
Overall, I find your manner and posting style aggressive Kira. You drastically overdo suspicion (you’re been suspicious of everyone at this point, almost, for some rather strange reasons), and from page 1 to 21, you are trying to pursue someone, which in turn is diverting attention away from yourself (see examples below). When someone tries to do the same to you, you freak out and start voting for them. All in all, I think this is just a bad sign.






I'm also somewhat alarmed for this apparent Kiradawea/Renthur alliance. It seems strange to me how she started off explaining it to try and blunt any concern over it. I'd call that defensive! I'm going to Vote Kiradawea. I've seen enough to make what I feel is a logical decision at this point.

I also find it somewhat strange that you're first "random" vote was for Renthur. I didn't really notice this until now, but why did you prod someone on forums to get them to vote when you're also doing it elsewhere? Seems silly to me.

I am rushing things? OMG. The Mod posted that he is going to roll a die to have someone die to end this day. Am I rushing or are you stalling? If the Mod rolls a die, the odds are a townie is going to die and not a mafia.

But so long as we're not stupid and not pushing for a deadline or stall completely. The advantage slowly drifts over to town as more and more information is revealed. Transparency is an advantage. Also, you for strangely defensive for an off-hand comment.

Narsrim does have an odd scummy feeling. But I think maybe that's his norm

What vote pattern, Kiri? He's either trying to post so he doesn't get picked off as a lurker, or he's being methodical.

He IS talking a bit much.

I didn't say vote pattern, I said post pattern.

Metatron peaks into the hall and quickly looks around. He doesn't hear too much talking, so he steps further into the hall, and you can see that behind his back is a giant bolt of lightning. He throws the bolt of lightning into the center of the room and then quickly hears the talking start up again. Faster than his throw, Metatron runs forward and catches the lightningbolt. The look of relief on Archer2's face is very apparent.

"Just playing with you!", says Metatron as he leaves the hall again, to allow the group to talk amongst themselves.

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