Shaddus2009-03-12 03:15:09
VOTE:ARCHER2 for being afraid of Metatron's joke
Kiradawea2009-03-12 10:09:39
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Mar 12 2009, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I note from your post that you didn’t pose a single question to me so I assume you have none. You have suggested I’m failing to answer questions, but you also aren’t posing any, which makes me even more suspicious.
Overall, I find your manner and posting style aggressive Kira. You drastically overdo suspicion (you’re been suspicious of everyone at this point, almost, for some rather strange reasons), and from page 1 to 21, you are trying to pursue someone, which in turn is diverting attention away from yourself (see examples below). When someone tries to do the same to you, you freak out and start voting for them. All in all, I think this is just a bad sign.
I'm also somewhat alarmed for this apparent Kiradawea/Renthur alliance. It seems strange to me how she started off explaining it to try and blunt any concern over it. I'd call that defensive! I'm going to Vote Kiradawea. I've seen enough to make what I feel is a logical decision at this point.
Overall, I find your manner and posting style aggressive Kira. You drastically overdo suspicion (you’re been suspicious of everyone at this point, almost, for some rather strange reasons), and from page 1 to 21, you are trying to pursue someone, which in turn is diverting attention away from yourself (see examples below). When someone tries to do the same to you, you freak out and start voting for them. All in all, I think this is just a bad sign.
I'm also somewhat alarmed for this apparent Kiradawea/Renthur alliance. It seems strange to me how she started off explaining it to try and blunt any concern over it. I'd call that defensive! I'm going to Vote Kiradawea. I've seen enough to make what I feel is a logical decision at this point.
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And people still don't see it? What's with you people. Do I have to break it up into itty-bitty crumbs and shove em down your throat? Fine, allow me.
Evidence A)
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"You drastically overdo suspicion (you're been suspicious of everyonoe at this point, almost, for some rather strange reasons)".
This is a blatant lie that everyone with half a brain for maths should be able to figure out. The only one I've been really suspicious about is Narsrim. The rest, Dai, Kiriwe and Fyler, I found something odd about and speculated if we could learn something from prodding them.Evidence B)
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"When someone tries to do the same to you, you freak out and start voting for them."
He conveniently ignores the fact that I actually don't do this. He ignores what I say on this matter, and instead tries to undermine my position with baseless accusations. It's also hypocritical, as he is the one freaking out, not me.Evidence C)
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"You are trying to pursue someone, which in turn is diverting attention away from yourself"
So being the first to vote on someone, and create a huge discussion around said person and thus draw a lot of attention to us both because I'd have to be able to back up my claims is a great attempt at diverting attention. Glad we got that out of the way huh? Evidence D)
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"(see examples below)"
These... examples consists of first a joke that he tries to twist into something serious. The second, oh so delicious example is him cutting a sentence in half wherein I state some suspicion against Fyler and Kiriwe. Of course I am diverting attention away from myself there. After all, let's go for those who can defend themselves rather than those who probably can't. The third is me stating how Renthur generally plays the game. Funny then, that I pretty much defend and help everyone that I feel ain't scummy. Just take a look at Kiri and Noola. And the last one... yeah I have no reason what he's even trying to say there.Evidence E)
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"I'm also somewhat alarmed for this apparent Kiradawea/Renthur alliance."
An... alliance. An obvious clear into the day alliance in a mafia game. This is a clear example of Narsrim's paranoia and fear because even the most novice mafia player knows that posting alliances are idiotic. No, that's just Renny being smart. The fact that we both see through your manipulations does not make us a team. Try again next game.Unknown2009-03-12 13:46:02
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 12 2009, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
VOTE:ARCHER2 for being afraid of Metatron's joke
Well, first of all I am actually voting for someone, Kira. So, I'm not a non-voter. I'll admit though, I have been lurking some, but that's because I've been somewhat busy and I didn't just want to post useless stuff on the forums.
Shaddus, I'm fairly sure the only thing that happened there was Dag rolled a dice, and my name came up, but he decided not to kill me :/
After looking over the posts again, while I am a bit still suspicious of Kira, I'm going to Unvote and Vote: Narsrim, not so much in the sake of progress, but because Kiradawea's arguments make alittle more sense to me. If Narsrim turns up Angel, Kira's going to be a high number on the suspect list tommorow though (although it's possible that both are simply stuck in a massive OMGUS vote).
Personally, I don't really believe Noola's claim, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. I mean, Gabriel? How likely is that?
Also, Daganev purposefully designed this game to confuse us :|
Noola2009-03-12 14:49:14
I'm leaving my vote on Narsrim. Though if it does turn out that he's town, I'll prolly be voting for Kira next day.
kiriwe2009-03-12 17:50:54
QUOTE (Noola @ Mar 12 2009, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm leaving my vote on Narsrim. Though if it does turn out that he's town, I'll prolly be voting for Kira next day.
I think a lot of us are thinking the same way
kiriwe2009-03-12 19:33:24
hey can we get a vote-count?
Daganev2009-03-12 20:18:27
Game 1: Terra
In Metatron's Book: Narsrim, Dai, Kiradawea, Archer2, Renthur, Fyler,Fania, Dugan, Noola, Kiriwe, Casilu, Shaddus
In Azreal's Book: A thousand Myriads and Fania(Survivor)
Time: Day 2
Vote count: Narsrim (3) - renthur, kiriwe, archer2 Archer2(2) - Dugan, Shaddus
11 Alive it's 6 to Lynch!
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fubar
In Metatron's Book: Narsrim, Dai, Kiradawea, Archer2, Renthur, Fyler,
In Azreal's Book: A thousand Myriads and Fania(Survivor)
Time: Day 2
Vote count: Narsrim (3) - renthur, kiriwe, archer2 Archer2(2) - Dugan, Shaddus
11 Alive it's 6 to Lynch!
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fubar
kiriwe2009-03-12 20:40:13
Ok, so half of us are voting now, the other half are being quiet.
Come on, you have to have an opinion on the matter. This has been going on for pages/days now.
Wake up and vote before we have to work with a deadline/die roll!
Come on, you have to have an opinion on the matter. This has been going on for pages/days now.
Wake up and vote before we have to work with a deadline/die roll!
Noola2009-03-12 20:59:31
Um, I'm voting for Narsrim, you don't show my vote.
Narsrim2009-03-12 21:10:36
Does anyone object to me going ahead and roleclaiming? This game is getting nowhere fast so I might as well.
Shaddus2009-03-12 21:15:56
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Mar 12 2009, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone object to me going ahead and roleclaiming? This game is getting nowhere fast so I might as well.
I really think you should, as you're giving off this odd scummy vibe, being a bit TOO methodical.
Maybe Kira should as well.
Fyler2009-03-12 21:21:56
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Mar 12 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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And people still don't see it? What's with you people. Do I have to break it up into itty-bitty crumbs and shove em down your throat? Fine, allow me.
Evidence A) This is a blatant lie that everyone with half a brain for maths should be able to figure out. The only one I've been really suspicious about is Narsrim. The rest, Dai, Kiriwe and Fyler, I found something odd about and speculated if we could learn something from prodding them.
Not a blatant lie. An exaggeration, yes, as you have not literally been suspicious of everyone. What you have been is "suspicious" of several people without any real basis. There was no reason to be suspicious of myself (up until I started acting scummy on purpose for a lynch) or Kiriwe, but we were "defensive." I've pointed out how bad of an argument that was.
Evidence He conveniently ignores the fact that I actually don't do this. He ignores what I say on this matter, and instead tries to undermine my position with baseless accusations. It's also hypocritical, as he is the one freaking out, not me.
Actually, his posts are fairly calm. He's certainly not "freaking out," and saying such is a common tactic I've seen in the past. You on the other hand...kind of freaking out.
Evidence C) So being the first to vote on someone, and create a huge discussion around said person and thus draw a lot of attention to us both because I'd have to be able to back up my claims is a great attempt at diverting attention. Glad we got that out of the way huh?
This only makes sense if your intention was to draw attention to yourself. Inadvertently drawing attention to yourself by accusing someone else doesn't prove you aren't scum.
Evidence D) These... examples consists of first a joke that he tries to twist into something serious. The second, oh so delicious example is him cutting a sentence in half wherein I state some suspicion against Fyler and Kiriwe. Of course I am diverting attention away from myself there. After all, let's go for those who can defend themselves rather than those who probably can't. The third is me stating how Renthur generally plays the game. Funny then, that I pretty much defend and help everyone that I feel ain't scummy. Just take a look at Kiri and Noola. And the last one... yeah I have no reason what he's even trying to say there.
Evidence E) An... alliance. An obvious clear into the day alliance in a mafia game. This is a clear example of Narsrim's paranoia and fear because even the most novice mafia player knows that posting alliances are idiotic. No, that's just Renny being smart. The fact that we both see through your manipulations does not make us a team. Try again next game.
And people still don't see it? What's with you people. Do I have to break it up into itty-bitty crumbs and shove em down your throat? Fine, allow me.
Evidence A) This is a blatant lie that everyone with half a brain for maths should be able to figure out. The only one I've been really suspicious about is Narsrim. The rest, Dai, Kiriwe and Fyler, I found something odd about and speculated if we could learn something from prodding them.
Not a blatant lie. An exaggeration, yes, as you have not literally been suspicious of everyone. What you have been is "suspicious" of several people without any real basis. There was no reason to be suspicious of myself (up until I started acting scummy on purpose for a lynch) or Kiriwe, but we were "defensive." I've pointed out how bad of an argument that was.
Evidence He conveniently ignores the fact that I actually don't do this. He ignores what I say on this matter, and instead tries to undermine my position with baseless accusations. It's also hypocritical, as he is the one freaking out, not me.
Actually, his posts are fairly calm. He's certainly not "freaking out," and saying such is a common tactic I've seen in the past. You on the other hand...kind of freaking out.
Evidence C) So being the first to vote on someone, and create a huge discussion around said person and thus draw a lot of attention to us both because I'd have to be able to back up my claims is a great attempt at diverting attention. Glad we got that out of the way huh?
This only makes sense if your intention was to draw attention to yourself. Inadvertently drawing attention to yourself by accusing someone else doesn't prove you aren't scum.
Evidence D) These... examples consists of first a joke that he tries to twist into something serious. The second, oh so delicious example is him cutting a sentence in half wherein I state some suspicion against Fyler and Kiriwe. Of course I am diverting attention away from myself there. After all, let's go for those who can defend themselves rather than those who probably can't. The third is me stating how Renthur generally plays the game. Funny then, that I pretty much defend and help everyone that I feel ain't scummy. Just take a look at Kiri and Noola. And the last one... yeah I have no reason what he's even trying to say there.
Evidence E) An... alliance. An obvious clear into the day alliance in a mafia game. This is a clear example of Narsrim's paranoia and fear because even the most novice mafia player knows that posting alliances are idiotic. No, that's just Renny being smart. The fact that we both see through your manipulations does not make us a team. Try again next game.
Narsrim's posting style is very, very aggressive. I don't see anything different here.
If "being defensive" was s good enough reason for you to vote for people, should we lynch you for being really defensive?
Kiradawea2009-03-12 21:27:46
I've also voted, but if it ain't there then Vote: Narsrim.
And I have already claimed.
And I have already claimed.
Fyler2009-03-12 21:32:11
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Mar 12 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've also voted, but if it ain't there then Vote: Narsrim.
And I have already claimed.
And I have already claimed.
Right, you also didn't answer the question or really address anything.
If you plan on dismissing every argument with "I've already claimed," you can expect the validity of your claim to be brought into question.
Narsrim2009-03-12 21:35:26
I am Israfil, the Angel of Healing. Twice per game, I may resurrect the fallen, and grant them life as an angel (although they lose all powers/abilities they may have had). I did this the first night to resurrect Fryler, which answers Noola's question as to why anyone would rezz a Jester.
I did this initially though because I thought it might override Fryler's win as a jester, but apparently, it does not.
I did this initially though because I thought it might override Fryler's win as a jester, but apparently, it does not.
kiriwe2009-03-12 21:47:28
Remind me again what Kira claimed?
Kiradawea2009-03-12 22:08:27
I did it to see if anyone had noticed it, but okay. I made an indirect claim back when Kiriwe claimed no-power role that I too have a no-power role. Perhaps it wasn't clear enough, but there you go.
And I don't believe that claim. Israfil, or "The Burning One" is the angel of the trumpet in Islam religion. Pretty obscure angel, that indeed is associated with Raphael the Healer. However, Israfil is the one who will sound the last judgement.
It was a good claim, however you failed on the title. Should've gone with music, as it was the "song" of Israfil who brought life to the angelic hosts. Not the healing.
And why have Israfil and Gabriel in the same game? Gabriel would have to be Djibril.
And I don't believe that claim. Israfil, or "The Burning One" is the angel of the trumpet in Islam religion. Pretty obscure angel, that indeed is associated with Raphael the Healer. However, Israfil is the one who will sound the last judgement.
It was a good claim, however you failed on the title. Should've gone with music, as it was the "song" of Israfil who brought life to the angelic hosts. Not the healing.
And why have Israfil and Gabriel in the same game? Gabriel would have to be Djibril.
Fania2009-03-12 22:09:06
I'm still trying to get over the fact that I was killed... I give pain and pleasure. There is no good sex without me!
Fyler2009-03-12 22:14:47
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Mar 12 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did it to see if anyone had noticed it, but okay. I made an indirect claim back when Kiriwe claimed no-power role that I too have a no-power role. Perhaps it wasn't clear enough, but there you go.
And I don't believe that claim. Israfil, or "The Burning One" is the angel of the trumpet in Islam religion. Pretty obscure angel, that indeed is associated with Raphael the Healer. However, Israfil is the one who will sound the last judgement.
It was a good claim, however you failed on the title. Should've gone with music, as it was the "song" of Israfil who brought life to the angelic hosts. Not the healing.
And why have Israfil and Gabriel in the same game? Gabriel would have to be Djibril.
And I don't believe that claim. Israfil, or "The Burning One" is the angel of the trumpet in Islam religion. Pretty obscure angel, that indeed is associated with Raphael the Healer. However, Israfil is the one who will sound the last judgement.
It was a good claim, however you failed on the title. Should've gone with music, as it was the "song" of Israfil who brought life to the angelic hosts. Not the healing.
And why have Israfil and Gabriel in the same game? Gabriel would have to be Djibril.
So you didn't really claim, and just lied to us. Just want to make sure we are clear on that.
I'll have to read up on Israfil, never heard of him.
Kiradawea2009-03-12 22:18:38
Thank you for confirming my belief that Narsrim actually does have that power, except for the turn into angel thing.