kiriwe2009-03-26 07:59:11
Definately not!
Unknown2009-03-26 08:01:55
Alright. Well, I'm not real sure on this post analysis stuff, so I'll just wait around for other people to come with good conspiracy theories.
Shiri2009-03-26 09:10:42
So basically, you're going to act all weird, then stop when it looks like it's attracting attention instead of averting it, then actually state that you're going to hide and not commit to anything instead of reasoning things out yourself?
Unknown2009-03-26 09:22:33
Yeah, pretty much.
Unknown2009-03-26 09:24:50
Well, I'm not actually "going to hide and not commit anything". Just be a faithful daganev supporter. Yes.
Shiri2009-03-26 09:26:03
Ok, well, that is a pretty terrible combination of scumminess, lurkiness and lack of usefulness, even if Daganev is (currently!) townie, so vote: Solanis.
Unknown2009-03-26 09:29:25
Alright. Well, I don't think lack of usefulness is really a factor in trying to lynch me. That's just ... stupid. Not to mention I'm not lurking, and am posting more than other people. The scumminess, well, I guess I appear dodgy.
Shiri2009-03-26 09:37:02
QUOTE (Solanis @ Mar 26 2009, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright. Well, I don't think lack of usefulness is really a factor in trying to lynch me. That's just ... stupid. Not to mention I'm not lurking, and am posting more than other people. The scumminess, well, I guess I appear dodgy.
...so not only are you admitting to it, but you're going to make the claim that people being deliberately useless and following someone else's votes instead of risking anything by coming up with their own ideas should not be a factor in lynching them?
I really hope you're not a jester cause I could have sworn you played better last game.
Lurking doesn't -just- mean not posting, it also means not posting anything of value. Diamondais, for example, does this sometimes, turning up with posts like "I just got here, I have no thoughts in particular and am going to unvote." That's lurking. She did quite a bit of it last game when she was scum.
Unknown2009-03-26 09:48:34
Then believe in yourself, Shiri! Believe in the hope that I'm really just an innocent vanilla!
I never said that "people being deliberately useless and following someone else's votes instead of risking anything by coming up with their own ideas should not be a factor in lynching them".
Rather than coming up with my own theories (ie. looking through the thread, post analysis), I'll instead just read other people's theories and see what I think. I didn't immediately to jump to where daganev was voting.
When I said it shouldn't be a factor, I was thinking more of the lines of "let's not waste lynches on fat kids with a broken leg and dementia who are useless. We should lynch people who we think are actually a threat." Sure, if you think I'm a threat to the town, then that's valid, but not on the ground that I'm not 'useful', useful being that I have no theories of my own and am not a daganev. There are other people who have been more 'useless' in that sense, such as the people who haven't even posted (or one post, or however many posts Renthur has)!
I never said that "people being deliberately useless and following someone else's votes instead of risking anything by coming up with their own ideas should not be a factor in lynching them".
Rather than coming up with my own theories (ie. looking through the thread, post analysis), I'll instead just read other people's theories and see what I think. I didn't immediately to jump to where daganev was voting.
When I said it shouldn't be a factor, I was thinking more of the lines of "let's not waste lynches on fat kids with a broken leg and dementia who are useless. We should lynch people who we think are actually a threat." Sure, if you think I'm a threat to the town, then that's valid, but not on the ground that I'm not 'useful', useful being that I have no theories of my own and am not a daganev. There are other people who have been more 'useless' in that sense, such as the people who haven't even posted (or one post, or however many posts Renthur has)!
Shiri2009-03-26 09:55:59
My browser spazzes when I try to click the post thing on the RL page, but how many posts DOES Renthur have? He should probably eat a modprod if he's not actually in the game yet. I'm content to go for any lurker, but people who haven't even posted aside, you're looking like more of a threat because of the combination of refusing to commit, and the scumminess from earlier, Solanis.
See, the uselessness/lurkiness IS generally threatening behaviour because it mainly comes out of scum who don't want to attract too much attention to themselves, hoping that if they're forgotten about they won't be killed for a while longer and can continue to get nightkills. Actually stating that you're just following someone's opinion like that is even worse. It's a similar basis to Daganev's "people who vote 3rd" thing, but broader and not as awkward.
See, the uselessness/lurkiness IS generally threatening behaviour because it mainly comes out of scum who don't want to attract too much attention to themselves, hoping that if they're forgotten about they won't be killed for a while longer and can continue to get nightkills. Actually stating that you're just following someone's opinion like that is even worse. It's a similar basis to Daganev's "people who vote 3rd" thing, but broader and not as awkward.
kiriwe2009-03-26 10:01:11
Shiri 55
daganev 48
Kiriwe y'Kaliath 44
Solanis 43
Jack 39
Dugan Diluculo 29
Caerulo 28
Fania 22
Silferras 21
casilu 19
diamondais 12
Tekora 12
Zynna 6
Doman 4
Shamarah 4
Renthur 2
Shaddus Mes'ard 2
daganev 48
Kiriwe y'Kaliath 44
Solanis 43
Jack 39
Dugan Diluculo 29
Caerulo 28
Fania 22
Silferras 21
casilu 19
diamondais 12
Tekora 12
Zynna 6
Doman 4
Shamarah 4
Renthur 2
Shaddus Mes'ard 2
Unknown2009-03-26 10:01:58
I said, "Just be a faithful daganev supporter. Yes." The Yes was meant to make it obvious that it was a feeble attempt at a joke.
How am I refusing to commit? Commit to what?
And I did draw attention to myself
Renthur has 2 posts, according to the post count thing.
(I acknowledge what you say. I get annoyed when people just home into one sentence and reply to that, and not even acknowledging the rest of what you said. So, yes. I'm not deliberately focusing on one bit of your post to kill your argument. Or something.)
How am I refusing to commit? Commit to what?
And I did draw attention to myself
Renthur has 2 posts, according to the post count thing.
(I acknowledge what you say. I get annoyed when people just home into one sentence and reply to that, and not even acknowledging the rest of what you said. So, yes. I'm not deliberately focusing on one bit of your post to kill your argument. Or something.)
kiriwe2009-03-26 10:03:39
You know what? Looking at that post count list, Fania looks extremely suspicious to me.
The last couple games she's played, she has dominated the post count list, and this time she's sitting square in the middle.
Also, she hasn't been saying much of anything.
Based on this, I am going to: Unvote
and
Vote: Fania
The last couple games she's played, she has dominated the post count list, and this time she's sitting square in the middle.
Also, she hasn't been saying much of anything.
Based on this, I am going to: Unvote
and
Vote: Fania
Shiri2009-03-26 10:06:46
We have a bunch of people with less posts than the mod there, and Fania isn't one of them. Mm. Renthur will need a facekick from Casilu, Shaddus will hopefully wake up and be useful today since he forgot he was in the game, Shamarah isn't being helpful but we at least have his claim, and I have no excuses in particular for Doman, Zynna and Diamondais. Tekora is aggroing on Dugan, who HAS been acting kinda weirdly.
kiriwe2009-03-26 10:13:10
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 06:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We have a bunch of people with less posts than the mod there, and Fania isn't one of them. Mm. Renthur will need a facekick from Casilu, Shaddus will hopefully wake up and be useful today since he forgot he was in the game, Shamarah isn't being helpful but we at least have his claim, and I have no excuses in particular for Doman, Zynna and Diamondais. Tekora is aggroing on Dugan, who HAS been acting kinda weirdly.
To be honest, I'm really not too worried about the non-posters, as they are 99% likely to be vanillas that either forgot about the game since Casilu didn't send out role pms, or lost interest because they don't have any neat powers.
I'm more interested in the semi-here people that are posting enough to keep out of the bottom of the list, but aren't contributing to the conversations in any helpful way.
From my experience with Fania, she is not afraid to post a -ton- and she likes to make plenty of accusations, this game is way out of character for her, from the 2 games I've watched her in.
Shamarah2009-03-26 10:39:10
There's no reason to keep someone around who is being deliberately useless.
Vote: Solanis
Vote: Solanis
Unknown2009-03-26 10:41:33
....how am I being deliberately useless?
Shamarah2009-03-26 10:56:52
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 05:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So basically, you're going to act all weird, then stop when it looks like it's attracting attention instead of averting it, then actually state that you're going to hide and not commit to anything instead of reasoning things out yourself?
QUOTE (Solanis @ Mar 26 2009, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, pretty much.
Unknown2009-03-26 11:06:09
Yeah, and then I respond in more detail.
Unknown2009-03-26 11:14:27
Okay, to set things straight. I never said that I wouldn't commit to anything. Or if I sort of did, with the "yeah pretty much" even with elaboration afterward, I'm am NOT going to deliberately not commit to anything unless I am unsure. I am not trying to be deliberately useless.