Dugan2009-03-27 02:57:25
I already have a vote on Shiri. Still see no reason to change it.
Reiha2009-03-27 02:59:18
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't tell if this is serious or not. I really hope it isn't, 'cause that post wasn't mean even if it wasn't a joke.
It's okay, because we all know I have the biggest balls and even chopped them off. Because I'm the boss.
Listen to the boss. Lynch Shiri.
Shiri2009-03-27 02:59:56
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Mar 27 2009, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I already have a vote on Shiri. Still see no reason to change it.
Despite inability to find any scum behaviour in any of that, or refute the obvious town motives.
Half of the votes on me are jokes anyway!
Fania2009-03-27 03:00:04
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So your claim is that because people are voting for me, I must be guilty?
No, I think you are guilty because you are making things far too complicated. Every single post of yours is overly complicated. You seem like you are working overdrive to keep people from voting for you. If by some chance someone seemed more like the joker than you right there I would vote for them over you.
Yeah that post was meant to be light hearted. Even if we kill each other left and right I wont take it personally.
Shiri2009-03-27 03:01:27
QUOTE (Fania @ Mar 27 2009, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I think you are guilty because you are making things far too complicated. Every single post of yours is overly complicated. You seem like you are working overdrive to keep people from voting for you. If by some chance someone seemed more like the joker than you right there I would vote for them over you.
Yeah that post was meant to be light hearted. Even if we kill each other left and right I wont take it personally.
Yeah that post was meant to be light hearted. Even if we kill each other left and right I wont take it personally.
Good gods. How can I possibly make it any simpler for you? It's seriously not my fault if you just can't follow this stuff. That's mafia. If there's anything specific you would like explained simply, please cite it.
Reiha2009-03-27 03:02:31
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good gods. How can I possibly make it any simpler for you? It's seriously not my fault if you just can't follow this stuff. That's mafia. If there's anything specific you would like explained simply, please cite it.
Everything!
kiriwe2009-03-27 03:06:52
Shiri, your posts need a little tl;dr at the bottom, because you come up with huge explanations for little things.
Fania isn't the only one confused by your wall o texts.
My vote stays.
Fania isn't the only one confused by your wall o texts.
My vote stays.
Shiri2009-03-27 03:08:52
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Mar 27 2009, 03:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shiri, your posts need a little tl;dr at the bottom, because you come up with huge explanations for little things.
Fania isn't the only one confused by your wall o texts.
My vote stays.
Fania isn't the only one confused by your wall o texts.
My vote stays.
kiriwe2009-03-27 03:12:41
Tekora2009-03-27 03:13:34
Ok, now you're just being evasive. I think we've done all we can here, time to get the convoy rolling again. Onward to Day 3!
Unvote
Vote: Shiri
Unvote
Vote: Shiri
Shiri2009-03-27 03:15:06
It's CLEARLY not evasive if I'm asking them to tell me what part they don't understand so I can try to make it even simpler. Anyway, I don't know if that was the lynch vote, but if not, seriously, citation needed. Just repeating a whole post and saying "I don't understand!" is not good enough, explain specific parts you don't follow.
Casilu2009-03-27 03:20:50
WELCOME TO DAY TWO!
VOTE COUNT:
Shiri 7 - (Daganev, Doman, Fania, Kiriwe, Reiha, Dugan, Tekora )
Shaddus 0 - ()
Shamarah 0- ()
Dugan 0 - ()
Solanis 0 - ( )
Fania 1 - (Shamarah )
Daganev 1 - (Shiri)
With 15 alive, it takes 8 to let one fry!
Shiri2009-03-27 03:21:57
That's 6 people not voting, 1-2 scum voting me, 4 people not thinking things through, and 1 Tekora being lazy. Those first 6 need to wake up!
Fania2009-03-27 03:39:23
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good gods. How can I possibly make it any simpler for you? It's seriously not my fault if you just can't follow this stuff. That's mafia. If there's anything specific you would like explained simply, please cite it.
I am following what you are saying. You are purposely making your posts overwhelming so that people can't follow them. Is that too complicated for you to understand or do I need to use smaller words?
Shiri2009-03-27 03:40:40
QUOTE (Fania @ Mar 27 2009, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am following what you are saying. You are purposely making your posts overwhelming so that people can't follow them. Is that too complicated for you to understand or do I need to use smaller words?
Yes. For an example of smaller words, cite a point you don't understand. I'm not making anything overcomplicated, or even complicated. It should be easy to follow. It's not my fault if for some reason you can't. And here I am offering to explain individual bits you don't understand, if you would just not post "everything."
Daganev2009-03-27 04:21:36
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 26 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's 6 people not voting, 1-2 scum voting me, 4 people not thinking things through, and 1 Tekora being lazy. Those first 6 need to wake up!
The only scum left are the Joker...
You have crazy conspiracy theories.
kiriwe2009-03-27 04:25:10
QUOTE (daganev @ Mar 27 2009, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only scum left are the Joker...
You have crazy conspiracy theories.
You have crazy conspiracy theories.
Um, that's not true though.
Joker probably converted somebody last night, and we still don't know what Shamarah's power is.
Daganev2009-03-27 04:36:25
Here is a long list of things that don't make sense. Everything not bolded is Shiri's post.
Correct, this is about when I wake up. I really have so little to defend myself from. I will even paraphrase Daganev "I'm sick of accusations without actually explaining what the problem is." The ignoring all the parts I already explained is even worse!
We have explained the accusations many times. Please don't pretend we havn't. There is even a couple of numbered lists in the previous pages.
Since, again, I have no actual worthwhile accusations other than scum tells which aren't scum tells, scum tells which I didn't do, scum tells which Daganev did and so on to work on, I'll reiterate the game.
As Fania said, you can look up the things I mentioned on the internet. They are all legitimate scum tells. And as I said before, it's a diagnosis. Everybody will do one or two of those things. But it's the collection of doing many of them that give the result of scum.
Night 0, Daganev flies out of the gates saying we should vote no lynch if it was a day start (but somehow not if it was a night start, his reasoning on this one having already been disproven.)
This was not disproven, I'm not sure why you think it was. Anyways, it's completely hypothetical and irrelevant for this game.
Day 1, I an not PMed a role. Immediately, Jack comes out saying he's a bomb. It sounds like he was lying (I was wrong, but plenty of people agreed with me, except Daganev who was not only desperate to believe he was a townie, but also throwing out the idea he was a jester to make sure we wouldn't lynch him)
You are making things up. I only said he was a Jester, and thought he was. I never said he was anything else. I even admited to being wrong about that. Making things up is a bad scum sign.
Note that if I was the joker, again, this plan would have been retarded because I would know perfectly well that both Jack and Silferras were abnormals and wouldn't want them out of the way (even though I didn't really commit about Silferras, I definitely did about Jack.) At this point I'm already peering at Solanis for all the weirdness, though at the time I'm more convinced Daganev is it so I don't press it.
You keep making this claim, but you havn't shown how this is true. The Joker wins if everyone is abnormal or dead. It doesn't make a difference to the Joker which ones they are. And by your own logic, I kept trying to lynch an abnormal, Silfferas, so even if you are correct. this would just prove that I'm not scum.
Day 2, Shamarah comes out and Casilu finally sorts out the extra abnormal roles thing. Reasoning that Daganev wouldn't have pressured Silferras for the same reason I wouldn't have pressured Jack if I was the joker, I start seriously considering Solanis since he didn't screw around like this last game and it was a pretty inept attention-averting plan this game. Then, making it worse, he abruptly stops the moment it gets him looked at as scum, and says he's not going to think things through and instead follow Daganev's vote, THEN tries to play that off as a joke (notice how Daganev pretends to confuse this with a damned if you do, damned if you don't dilemma and randomly asserts that scum would pretend not to be in one when clearly neither of those things are the case).
I have no idea what you are trying to say in this paragraph. He didn't play anything off as a joke, what Solanis said was
There is no joke here.
His contradiction between what he says, "people who just reiterate information and don't come up with their own theories are scum" <-- actual scum tell, and what he does,
Umm where have I done this? Do you have an example?
Incidentally, about the Casilu PM, she -did- quote me back, I just delete PMs after I've read them (I did the same thing in the smash bros. game, which turned out annoying, I should probably stop it) except for my role PMs in case I need to paraphrase something for it. I didn't think a "no" would be that hard to remember since I posted it to the thread right after. I tend to run my PM box pretty close to filling up so I like to leave a buffer of like 20 or so and I'm getting near that now. I already reiterated the question anyway, and I would have gotten it from my outbox (which I've never had a cause to use before). Also, people not jumping on Dugan for this = ???. Also Daganev's comment about not being lazy and ninja lynches confusing me, but I'm prepared to accept this one as being faux-legitimate.
Umm, that's a lot of text which boils down to "sorry, I deleted the PM and forgot what I asked or what it said" Why are you turning simple things into large blocks of text?
Correct, this is about when I wake up. I really have so little to defend myself from. I will even paraphrase Daganev "I'm sick of accusations without actually explaining what the problem is." The ignoring all the parts I already explained is even worse!
We have explained the accusations many times. Please don't pretend we havn't. There is even a couple of numbered lists in the previous pages.
Since, again, I have no actual worthwhile accusations other than scum tells which aren't scum tells, scum tells which I didn't do, scum tells which Daganev did and so on to work on, I'll reiterate the game.
As Fania said, you can look up the things I mentioned on the internet. They are all legitimate scum tells. And as I said before, it's a diagnosis. Everybody will do one or two of those things. But it's the collection of doing many of them that give the result of scum.
Night 0, Daganev flies out of the gates saying we should vote no lynch if it was a day start (but somehow not if it was a night start, his reasoning on this one having already been disproven.)
This was not disproven, I'm not sure why you think it was. Anyways, it's completely hypothetical and irrelevant for this game.
Day 1, I an not PMed a role. Immediately, Jack comes out saying he's a bomb. It sounds like he was lying (I was wrong, but plenty of people agreed with me, except Daganev who was not only desperate to believe he was a townie, but also throwing out the idea he was a jester to make sure we wouldn't lynch him)
You are making things up. I only said he was a Jester, and thought he was. I never said he was anything else. I even admited to being wrong about that. Making things up is a bad scum sign.
Note that if I was the joker, again, this plan would have been retarded because I would know perfectly well that both Jack and Silferras were abnormals and wouldn't want them out of the way (even though I didn't really commit about Silferras, I definitely did about Jack.) At this point I'm already peering at Solanis for all the weirdness, though at the time I'm more convinced Daganev is it so I don't press it.
You keep making this claim, but you havn't shown how this is true. The Joker wins if everyone is abnormal or dead. It doesn't make a difference to the Joker which ones they are. And by your own logic, I kept trying to lynch an abnormal, Silfferas, so even if you are correct. this would just prove that I'm not scum.
Day 2, Shamarah comes out and Casilu finally sorts out the extra abnormal roles thing. Reasoning that Daganev wouldn't have pressured Silferras for the same reason I wouldn't have pressured Jack if I was the joker, I start seriously considering Solanis since he didn't screw around like this last game and it was a pretty inept attention-averting plan this game. Then, making it worse, he abruptly stops the moment it gets him looked at as scum, and says he's not going to think things through and instead follow Daganev's vote, THEN tries to play that off as a joke (notice how Daganev pretends to confuse this with a damned if you do, damned if you don't dilemma and randomly asserts that scum would pretend not to be in one when clearly neither of those things are the case).
I have no idea what you are trying to say in this paragraph. He didn't play anything off as a joke, what Solanis said was
QUOTE (Solanis @ Mar 26 2009, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So................................... do you want me to keep acting crazy?
There is no joke here.
His contradiction between what he says, "people who just reiterate information and don't come up with their own theories are scum" <-- actual scum tell, and what he does,
Umm where have I done this? Do you have an example?
Incidentally, about the Casilu PM, she -did- quote me back, I just delete PMs after I've read them (I did the same thing in the smash bros. game, which turned out annoying, I should probably stop it) except for my role PMs in case I need to paraphrase something for it. I didn't think a "no" would be that hard to remember since I posted it to the thread right after. I tend to run my PM box pretty close to filling up so I like to leave a buffer of like 20 or so and I'm getting near that now. I already reiterated the question anyway, and I would have gotten it from my outbox (which I've never had a cause to use before). Also, people not jumping on Dugan for this = ???. Also Daganev's comment about not being lazy and ninja lynches confusing me, but I'm prepared to accept this one as being faux-legitimate.
Umm, that's a lot of text which boils down to "sorry, I deleted the PM and forgot what I asked or what it said" Why are you turning simple things into large blocks of text?
Daganev2009-03-27 04:37:45
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Mar 26 2009, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, that's not true though.
Joker probably converted somebody last night, and we still don't know what Shamarah's power is.
Joker probably converted somebody last night, and we still don't know what Shamarah's power is.
Perhaps. But I have a strong feeling (unless shamarah is lieing) that we will win as soon as Shiri is lynched.
Daganev2009-03-27 04:41:39
It's wierd, Shiri keeps trying to play this game and convince people that this games needs to be played the same way a normal game with 3 mafia and 12 townies should be played. I'm not sure why he thinks that, although in truth there appears to be more merit to that idea than before (since we know the joker converted more than 1 person on night 0)
I'm thinking he has been playing that way because he knew that the Joker did so many conversions because he is the Joker. It's the only thing that really makes sense to me, unless somehow Shiri has lost his ability to think critically (which I highly doubt)
I'm thinking he has been playing that way because he knew that the Joker did so many conversions because he is the Joker. It's the only thing that really makes sense to me, unless somehow Shiri has lost his ability to think critically (which I highly doubt)
