Fania2009-03-30 05:38:50
QUOTE (diamondais @ Mar 29 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So voting for Tekora is the option of today?
That's pretty much it. What are your thoughts?
Diamondais2009-03-30 06:11:55
Besides Shamarah, there doesn't really seem to be anyone out of the normal that we can for sure say and not lose our town members through accidents such as guessing the wrong person.
But at the moment, Shamarah seems safe to leave for the moment.
So, Vote: Tekora
I really hope this isn't a mistake.
But at the moment, Shamarah seems safe to leave for the moment.
So, Vote: Tekora
I really hope this isn't a mistake.
Casilu2009-03-30 06:14:08
Don't even need to count it, that's a lynch.
The group disembowels Tekora and eats his organs. They discover he tastes like vanilla.
NIGHT 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The group disembowels Tekora and eats his organs. They discover he tastes like vanilla.
NIGHT 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Diamondais2009-03-30 06:16:11
Gah 
Daganev2009-03-31 02:45:54
*bump*??
kiriwe2009-03-31 02:48:59
Shh, it's Night
Casilu2009-03-31 05:11:01
Welcome to day 4.
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch. Still, no one died last night.
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch. Still, no one died last night.
Diamondais2009-03-31 05:16:24
QUOTE (Tekora @ Mar 28 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Possible current situations
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#1 - 3 conversions on Night Zero
Night 0 - 3 conversions (Jack, Silferras, Shamarah)
Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die
Night 1 - Unknown person converted
Day 2 - Shiri dies
Night 2 - ???
Day 3 - Current
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#2 - 2 people converted on Night 0
Night 0 - 2 people converted (Jack, Silferras)
Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die
Night 1 - Shamarah converted
Day 2 - Shiri dies
Night 2 - ???
Day 3 - Current
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#3 - Four or more people converted on Night 0
Night 0 - Four (or more) people converted (Jack, Silferras, Shamarah, (Daganev?),
Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die
Night 1 - Unknown person converted
Day 2 - Shiri dies
Night 2 - ???
Day 3 - Current
----------------------
This is a list of all the possible current scenarios, in one of them, Shamarah is the only remaining abnormal, and in two, he's one of the remaining abnormals.
So tell me, how is lynching Shamarah in any way, other than losing a (possible) investigator, who has so far given us no important information, and has in fact, vigorously resisted any attempt to get him to reveal his role or any other actual information. Hell, the first time he revealed ANY information actually pertaining to the game was ON THE PAGE BEFORE THIS, which only assures me in my suspicion that he's OUTRIGHT LYING.
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#1 - 3 conversions on Night Zero
Night 0 - 3 conversions (Jack, Silferras, Shamarah)
Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die
Night 1 - Unknown person converted
Day 2 - Shiri dies
Night 2 - ???
Day 3 - Current
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#2 - 2 people converted on Night 0
Night 0 - 2 people converted (Jack, Silferras)
Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die
Night 1 - Shamarah converted
Day 2 - Shiri dies
Night 2 - ???
Day 3 - Current
----------------------
#3 - Four or more people converted on Night 0
Night 0 - Four (or more) people converted (Jack, Silferras, Shamarah, (Daganev?),
Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die
Night 1 - Unknown person converted
Day 2 - Shiri dies
Night 2 - ???
Day 3 - Current
----------------------
This is a list of all the possible current scenarios, in one of them, Shamarah is the only remaining abnormal, and in two, he's one of the remaining abnormals.
So tell me, how is lynching Shamarah in any way, other than losing a (possible) investigator, who has so far given us no important information, and has in fact, vigorously resisted any attempt to get him to reveal his role or any other actual information. Hell, the first time he revealed ANY information actually pertaining to the game was ON THE PAGE BEFORE THIS, which only assures me in my suspicion that he's OUTRIGHT LYING.
Tekora wanted this reposted in case he died.
Unknown2009-03-31 05:22:40
I shall vote Diamondais for sounding very shifty in her post deciding to vote Tekora. And the Gah bit as well.
VOTE DIAMONDAIS
She'd probably not be the head cultist, probably a convert, in my humble opinion.
VOTE DIAMONDAIS
She'd probably not be the head cultist, probably a convert, in my humble opinion.
Diamondais2009-03-31 05:25:32
The gah was for damn it, he was townie and not abnormal/mafia/scum/cult/etc that we seemed to think he was.
Fania2009-03-31 05:31:24
I see no reason for diamondias to be lynched at this time.
Fania2009-03-31 05:47:28
I feel really stupid about that last lynch too. I had that gut feeling that Tekora wasn't scum at all. I didn't have the energy to argue, and in the end I found out it was a mistake. It sucks.
Shamarah2009-03-31 10:35:33
DAGANEV IS THE CULT LEADER.
I watched Diamondais last night, and observed Daganev giving her some religious pamphlets.
Vote: Daganev
I watched Diamondais last night, and observed Daganev giving her some religious pamphlets.
Vote: Daganev
Daganev2009-03-31 13:41:00
Ok... I was going to suggest that we lynch reiha, becuase of how long night keeps taking, and her lurkerness but apparent payng attention yesterday, but now I think it's clear to vote for shamarah cause he is just outright making stuff up right now.
Vote Shamarah Unless someone can explain how Shamarah can be telling the truth but also being so wrong. Perhaps somebody has a redirect skill?
Vote Shamarah Unless someone can explain how Shamarah can be telling the truth but also being so wrong. Perhaps somebody has a redirect skill?
Daganev2009-03-31 13:42:07
Maybe shamarah is just saying stuff to prevent the lynch he knew was comming after Tekora's death yesterday, I don't know... but something wierd is happening.
Zynna2009-03-31 13:52:58
Shamarah, what night did you investigate to see if anyone targeted Daganev? That would help us figure out how many potential cult members there would be.
If Dag was converted on Night 0, that would be meant that there were 3 cult members plus him.
That would explain why Dag was motivated to go after the joker, so as to win on his own condition and remove the chance of anti-cult roles being created.
Vote: Daganev
I will reread over the postings from the last lynch to see if I spot anything suspicious sticking out, from either.
If Dag was converted on Night 0, that would be meant that there were 3 cult members plus him.
That would explain why Dag was motivated to go after the joker, so as to win on his own condition and remove the chance of anti-cult roles being created.
Vote: Daganev
I will reread over the postings from the last lynch to see if I spot anything suspicious sticking out, from either.
Daganev2009-03-31 14:36:54
QUOTE (Zynna @ Mar 31 2009, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shamarah, what night did you investigate to see if anyone targeted Daganev? That would help us figure out how many potential cult members there would be.
If Dag was converted on Night 0, that would be meant that there were 3 cult members plus him.
That would explain why Dag was motivated to go after the joker, so as to win on his own condition and remove the chance of anti-cult roles being created.
Vote: Daganev
I will reread over the postings from the last lynch to see if I spot anything suspicious sticking out, from either.
If Dag was converted on Night 0, that would be meant that there were 3 cult members plus him.
That would explain why Dag was motivated to go after the joker, so as to win on his own condition and remove the chance of anti-cult roles being created.
Vote: Daganev
I will reread over the postings from the last lynch to see if I spot anything suspicious sticking out, from either.
Zynna, if that was true, I would have supported lynching shamarah yesterday, not declaring Shamarah somebody who we should keep alive. (That is if I was a cult leader, and my motivation was to eliminate the possiblity of someone being able to stop me, why would I have protected Shamara when he was the most vunerable?)
I think somebody needs to come forward if they have an ability to redirect powers, directly or randomly or whatever it is, so that we know if Shamarah is just lieing to cover himself after our lynching of our first innocent. Or if Shamarah is telling the truth, but his power gave him bad info.
Daganev2009-03-31 14:46:59
There is also something fishy about Solanis's post voting for diamondais, along with Shamarah's targeting Diamondais last night, but I can't put my finger on it.
If it is the case that someone had an ability to shift results, I would like to suggest we vote for Reiha. She was quickly aware and questioned why her name was on the list of lurkers (even though I said so in the post that I first mentioned her name) and then there is the metagame timezone issue. Night should not have lasted so long since just about everybody has posts on the forum yestrday except for reiha who posted just soon after day was declared.
If it is the case that someone had an ability to shift results, I would like to suggest we vote for Reiha. She was quickly aware and questioned why her name was on the list of lurkers (even though I said so in the post that I first mentioned her name) and then there is the metagame timezone issue. Night should not have lasted so long since just about everybody has posts on the forum yestrday except for reiha who posted just soon after day was declared.
Fania2009-03-31 15:36:15
QUOTE (daganev @ Mar 31 2009, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is also something fishy about Solanis's post voting for diamondais, along with Shamarah's targeting Diamondais last night, but I can't put my finger on it.
If it is the case that someone had an ability to shift results, I would like to suggest we vote for Reiha. She was quickly aware and questioned why her name was on the list of lurkers (even though I said so in the post that I first mentioned her name) and then there is the metagame timezone issue. Night should not have lasted so long since just about everybody has posts on the forum yestrday except for reiha who posted just soon after day was declared.
If it is the case that someone had an ability to shift results, I would like to suggest we vote for Reiha. She was quickly aware and questioned why her name was on the list of lurkers (even though I said so in the post that I first mentioned her name) and then there is the metagame timezone issue. Night should not have lasted so long since just about everybody has posts on the forum yestrday except for reiha who posted just soon after day was declared.
What are you on about? Reiha was here a lot irl yesterday, I looked back and I don't see any of her times lining up. Show me where they line up and I'll take another look.
I don't know why Shamarah would call you out like that, because he'll just be lynched tomorrow if we lynch you and he's wrong.
Zynna2009-03-31 15:56:07
I read back over the posts on the last lynch, and Dugan looks suspicious to me (his attacks on Tek. didn't make much sense). Also, I didn't see anything particularly scummy on Shamarah. So we either have to decide to trust him or not. I'm inclined at this point to keep the vote on Dag and switch to Shamarah tomorrow if Dag is innocent.
I also read over Sham's post where he said he investigated Dag on Night 2, which means if Sham is telling the truth that there are either 1 leader + 3 members or 1 leader + 2 members out there.
It's true that Dag did say that he thought Sham was 60% town and didn't want to get him out of the way, which is somewhat confusing...but it may be that he thought the chances of Sham targeting the same person he'd convert that night would be small. Need to think more on that.
I also read over Sham's post where he said he investigated Dag on Night 2, which means if Sham is telling the truth that there are either 1 leader + 3 members or 1 leader + 2 members out there.
It's true that Dag did say that he thought Sham was 60% town and didn't want to get him out of the way, which is somewhat confusing...but it may be that he thought the chances of Sham targeting the same person he'd convert that night would be small. Need to think more on that.
