Look at Balizar's role though. Rika has, in the past, made roles that give powers to vanilla townies, or had some mechanic that did so. (like in the cold war game where she gave me a no lynch oneshot). Bali had a chance to perform an action on nights 0 and 1, which means that somewhere out there, some vanilla townie might not be so vanilla anymore
Bali - Architect. Every second night, you can choose another person and you will possibly enhance their abilities by designing a new room for them. This only works on certain people. This can be done on night zero.
Ok. Here is Bali's role. It says it could enhance their abilities, not give them abilities. I do suppose though that there could be vanilla townies in a game of occupations ...
Daganev2009-04-29 23:27:19
Lets think this through...
Alive C - Daganev (Clockmaker, deadline forcer) D - Dugan - (claimed dietitian) E - Solanis H - Tekora - (claimed homeless, vanilla) J - Jack - (claimed judge) L - Shamarah (Landlord, cop) N - Arix (claimed ninja, night vig) R - Kiriwe (claimed reporter) S - Shiri (used medic ability) T - Saaga V - Archer (claimed Vice-president, mason) Z - Shaddus
We have 12 alive. (assume 2 maybe 3 scum) say we lynch tekora, and he is town, then we have 11 alive. (2 or 3 scum)
When morning comes, we will have 10 alive (maybe 9), and (2 or 3 scum) (unless arix gets lucky and hits a scum)
There are 3 people left who have not claimed yet.
However we only have 2 days left to find mafia members.
I don't feel comfortable continuing the day without more info. So while I don't believe Tekora's claim, I think it's a bad time to lynch.
Arix2009-04-30 00:30:07
Solanis and Shaddus need to speak up. Saaga said she would when she is able to
Solanis and Shaddus need to speak up. Saaga said she would when she is able to
I posted not too long ago. And yes, I'm a Zooologist. I used my monkey on Shiri and found out that he has a lot of books. Not very helpful, but doesn't sound all that scummy.
I posted not too long ago. And yes, I'm a Zooologist. I used my monkey on Shiri and found out that he has a lot of books. Not very helpful, but doesn't sound all that scummy.
Oh yeah, that reminds me of why I didn't like Shaddus: same thing as Kiriwe. We have too many investigators. I find it likely that at least one of them is scummy. It sounds like Shaddus has the most worthless investigate possible, so I think I want to be safe and get rid of him soon. Is there a full power claim by Kiriwe around here somewhere? Hers needs comparing with it for the same reason, but I don't think she made one and she keeps hiding when I bring this whole thing up.
P.S the mass roleclaim thing has some value since we already have two rezzers, four investigators, the doctor and the vig either out or dead. I don't think we have anything more to sacrifice except the roleblocker, who can use the narrowed-down information to help anyway. And I mean mass full roleclaim, too, not just the names. It won't be that easy, but if you think about it there are only so many roles left that it's reasonably likely for townie claims to be available for, and then they have to make them fit the letter somehow.
Oh yeah, that reminds me of why I didn't like Shaddus: same thing as Kiriwe. We have too many investigators. I find it likely that at least one of them is scummy. It sounds like Shaddus has the most worthless investigate possible, so I think I want to be safe and get rid of him soon.
Why does that make me scummy?
I have three powers. I used my monkey on you (teehee), I used my rhino on Daganev (nothing happened, apparently) and I has an elephant I haven't used yet. I'm not entirely sure what part of my role makes you think I'm scum.
Of course, you ALWAYS think I'm scum, even if we were masons together you'd think that.
Anyway, I'm not worried about your voting for me, it happens too often. I'm keeping my vote on Tekora for now.
Arix2009-04-30 00:51:51
Speaking of roleclaims, we never got one from you, Shiri
I have three powers. I used my monkey on you (teehee), I used my rhino on Daganev (nothing happened, apparently) and I has an elephant I haven't used yet. I'm not entirely sure what part of my role makes you think I'm scum.
Of course, you ALWAYS think I'm scum, even if we were masons together you'd think that.
Anyway, I'm not worried about your voting for me, it happens too often. I'm keeping my vote on Tekora for now.
You didn't say anything about a rhino or elephant earlier...you just said you had a 1-shot investigate.
@Arix: I have no need to claim yet. I'm clearly townie and don't want to give the scum any more info yet. However I will do so if I'm still alive tomorrow and we lynch a townie by accident today.
Arix2009-04-30 00:55:33
the monkey was a one-shot investigate
Shiri2009-04-30 00:55:53
Oh yeah, and if we get to the end of the list and find nothing we can cope with, there's still the low possibility Archer is a scum mason. He's lower priority than a bunch of the others, but I just want to get that out there.
I'm clearly townie and don't want to give the scum any more info yet.
How are you "clearly townie"?
Dugan2009-04-30 00:58:10
Kirwie is a reporter if I recall correctly. But I don't think she has ever said what she actually reports .... All I can remember was with the thing on the first day with Dag when she kept on if he had any other abilities and what he did at night or something or other .... I'll go back here in a minute and check it.
Arix2009-04-30 00:59:26
The ability to rez does not mean someone is a townie per se. Rika was a scum rezzer in Angels and Demons
Shaddus2009-04-30 01:02:00
And my investigate isn't that great anyway. I mean, come on. It didn't even say your skill, just that "you have a lot of books".
And my investigate isn't that great anyway. I mean, come on. It didn't even say your skill, just that "you have a lot of books".
I think my monkey is damaged.
That's exactly why it's dubious. We have an investigator and a watcher proven. Any more investigation roles than that really need scrutiny (hence prodding full roleclaim from Kiriwe) because there's every likelihood that the scum have an investigate in a game like this.
And then you have a rhino, of all things, which supposedly does nothing? Hmmmmmmm.
That's exactly why it's dubious. We have an investigator and a watcher proven. Any more investigation roles than that really need scrutiny (hence prodding full roleclaim from Kiriwe) because there's every likelihood that the scum have an investigate in a game like this.
And then you have a rhino, of all things, which supposedly does nothing? Hmmmmmmm.
According to Rika, I can't tell what it did.
Shiri2009-04-30 01:26:54
Daganev, were you molested by a rhino or anything like that?
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