Nerf Gregori's....

by Shaddus

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Gregori2009-04-23 02:05:31
QUOTE (Acrune @ Apr 22 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He didn't raise any real problems though. I could similarly quibble about a dozen strengths that communes have over cities. I doubt he even really cares about these 'problems'. Like I said before, he's just throwing a fit over the fearaura suggestions.



Again, wrong.

Given the fact I agreed that fearaura should be changed. I even said that Shuyin's suggestion was the best possible on there, it would indicate I am not throwing a fit over fearuara being changed.

Once again, proving a point by showing the ridiculousness of a thread title being one thing and the thread itself being "nerf them" is not a tantrum. Though, it's understandable that people on forums fall onto the tantrum/raging line anytime someone disagrees with them or points out the fact that a thread they made was really aimed at one thing while trying to hide it behind another.
Dysolis2009-04-23 02:05:43
I don't think a fourm ban would be civil, perhaps just block all the stupid threads made ever including this one and we'll do fine.
Shaddus2009-04-23 02:10:35
In before lock. Crap, Eventru's reading it. Look busy.
Celina2009-04-23 02:11:47
QUOTE (Gregori @ Apr 22 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again, wrong.

Given the fact I agreed that fearaura should be changed. I even said that Shuyin's suggestion was the best possible on there, it would indicate I am not throwing a fit over fearuara being changed.

Once again, proving a point by showing the ridiculousness of a thread title being one thing and the thread itself being "nerf them" is not a tantrum. Though, it's understandable that people on forums fall onto the tantrum/raging line anytime someone disagrees with them or points out the fact that a thread they made was really aimed at one thing while trying to hide it behind another.


The "tantrum" stems from a flurry of posts demanding nerfs without an explanation beyond "NERF SKILL. OBVIOUS DISPARITY" in an attempt to make a not so subtle point that Malicia is a meanie because she's trying to nerf your commune skills.

Not all tantrums involve kicking and screaming, but they do share one common thread. The person behind them acting childish.
Acrune2009-04-23 02:12:16
QUOTE (Gregori @ Apr 22 2009, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again, wrong.

Given the fact I agreed that fearaura should be changed. I even said that Shuyin's suggestion was the best possible on there, it would indicate I am not throwing a fit over fearuara being changed.

Once again, proving a point by showing the ridiculousness of a thread title being one thing and the thread itself being "nerf them" is not a tantrum. Though, it's understandable that people on forums fall onto the tantrum/raging line anytime someone disagrees with them or points out the fact that a thread they made was really aimed at one thing while trying to hide it behind another.


Yes.

How dare someone include multiple problems in one thread. How incredibly absurd!

What is this world coming to? rolleyes.gif
Malicia2009-04-23 02:14:36
*starcall forum meltdown @Acrune*
Acrune2009-04-23 02:15:47
QUOTE (Malicia @ Apr 22 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*starcall forum meltdown @Acrune*


Careful, Gregori will make a thread demanding a nerf to sacraments next! fear.gif

Edit: And then some people will take him seriously blackeye.gif
Gregori2009-04-23 02:21:28
As I said, I do find it funny that legitimate issues are used to evoke a response and the response is as expected "lol gregori is raging."


I suppose it can be surmised that the cities just don't want to lose their precious skills, since it is afterall all the city players who are avoiding the actual issues and the commune players who are agreeing to them.
Malicia2009-04-23 02:22:36
No one's buying it. You're raging. If you have serious issues with those abilities, your timing is suspicious (lol, get it? I made a funniez) and aren't you an envoy? You know what to do.
Xenthos2009-04-23 02:24:31
QUOTE (Malicia @ Apr 22 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one's buying it. You're raging. If you have serious issues with those abilities, your timing is suspicious (lol, get it? I made a funniez) and aren't you an envoy? You know what to do.

If you read the threads and comments, you'll see that there's a select group of people who aren't buying it. And some scattered agreement here and there.

But it's easier to just try to dismiss it out-of-hand.
Arix2009-04-23 02:25:42
Ummm, what is this thread about?
Shaddus2009-04-23 02:26:52
QUOTE
Report #200 Skillset: City skills Skill: All of them
Guild: Hartstone Status: DENIED.
Problem: Cities have skills we don't, and it pisses me off.

Solution #1: Give forest ascendants access to all skillsets.
Solution #2: Make me a divine. Give me access to all skillsets.
Solution #3: Nerf everyone but me.
Malicia2009-04-23 02:27:18
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Apr 22 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you read the threads and comments, you'll see that there's a select group of people who aren't buying it. And some scattered agreement here and there.

But it's easier to just try to dismiss it out-of-hand.

Those are just good Samaritans taking pity. tongue.gif Either way, if magelock, beckon and laetitia and whatever else he rage-posted about need a genuine look at, as an envoy, he'd follow the proper channels. I'm sorry but, I just can't take these threads seriously. You can't make me!
Shaddus2009-04-23 02:28:14
QUOTE (Malicia @ Apr 22 2009, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those are just good Samaritans taking pity. tongue.gif Either way, if magelock, beckon and laetitia and whatever else he rage-posted about need a genuine look at, as an envoy, he'd follow the proper channels. I'm sorry but, I just can't take these threads seriously. You can't make me!

PSI ID DOMINATE MALICIA TAKE GREGORI SERIOUSLY
Gregori2009-04-23 02:28:21
QUOTE (Malicia @ Apr 22 2009, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one's buying it. You're raging. If you have serious issues with those abilities, your timing is suspicious (lol, get it? I made a funniez) and aren't you an envoy? You know what to do.



Except your joke would be funny if the timing had any suspicion to it. Given I flat out said what the prompting of my posts were, it makes your 'funniez' fall short of funny.

Also, you are quite correct, I am an envoy. That is probably why myself and other envoys have been discussing these very issues and how to handle them. It doesn't change the fact that you yourself, claiming to seek balance, choose to ignore, discredit, and devolve into "it's just a tantrum and he should be banned" instead of discussing that balance that you claim you seek.

The topics evoked the exact response from you that I was hoping for and more. All I can say is thank you for proving to be a valuable case study.
Xenthos2009-04-23 02:29:55
I want to nerf disenchanting next, tbh. shocked.gif
Unknown2009-04-23 02:30:13
Dude calm down, less caps.
Xenthos2009-04-23 02:30:47
QUOTE (Sojiro @ Apr 22 2009, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude calm down, less caps.

Super ninja'd.
Malicia2009-04-23 02:31:01
QUOTE (LolGregori)
Also, you are quite correct, I am an envoy. That is probably why myself and other envoys have been discussing these very issues and how to handle them. It doesn't change the fact that you yourself, claiming to seek balance, choose to ignore, discredit, and devolve into "it's just a tantrum and he should be banned" instead of discussing that balance that you claim you seek.


I'm just so amused atm. I could care less if laetitia/beckon/magelock were nerfed. If a childish tit-for-tat is what you seek, here ye shall not find it. I don't feel those abilities are overpowered, but you're free to disagree. I stand by my opinion of fearaura. The same opinion I've had of it since the skillset was released.
Serella2009-04-23 02:31:37
omgcutekitties!

Here is a lolpanda, depicting the many forumers nourished by drama and forumspite.



Anyway, I don't think making three threads just to make a point is warranted, but neither is a forum ban. And it's a little sad that a legitimate suggestions thread ended in the inevitable biased arguments/rants, and only a tiny amount of helpfulness. Would it be possible to start over and compile a list of helpful suggestions, if that's important?