Miscellaneous Mafia

by Shamarah

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Daganev2009-05-11 20:43:44
Anyone else getting tempted to just pull out the "Lynch all liars" policy? So far we have had 3 cases where people have lied, and it has harmed us.
Furien2009-05-11 20:45:54
That...seems like a really, really convenient excuse, Bali.
Daganev2009-05-11 20:50:06
QUOTE (Furien @ May 11 2009, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That...seems like a really, really convenient excuse, Bali.


No, a convenient excuse would be "damnit I'm a pyschopath investigator, that sucks!"

what he came up with is just random wackyness... It's like his unexplained "trap" last game.
Unknown2009-05-11 20:52:06
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I'm really not sure whether to believe Bali- both his role and his claim of being town. His roleclaim seems plausible, but he pretended to be an investigator in order to get Myrkr lynched as scum, even if she did ragequit. He could be bluffing and completely making this up (see: Dream Castle). That's just my personal judgment, and I might rethink this if he gives a reason to accept his claim.


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I want to kill off bali, but not until we know who the scum are.


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That...seems like a really, really convenient excuse, Bali.


I welcome any investigation.

In my first post I claim VT. In this post Kiradawea seems to pin me down as Raskolnikov.
Unknown2009-05-11 20:56:55
QUOTE (Dag)
No, a convenient excuse would be "damnit I'm a pyschopath investigator, that sucks!"

what he came up with is just random wackyness... It's like his unexplained "trap" last game.


This isnt a case of me coming up with something random. I am telling the 100% unadulterated truth here.

Let me remind me you that the name of the game is Miscellaneous mafia. We've had a politician and a pope so far. There are mechanazis and llamas. If you are really trying to pull that card I think you need to take a step back and realize what game you are playing in.
Llandros2009-05-11 21:00:31
We went from 0 to 8 (7.5 whatever) llama sightings over night.

Anyone see a llama?
Daganev2009-05-11 21:02:28
QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ May 11 2009, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This isnt a case of me coming up with something random. I am telling the 100% unadulterated truth here.

Let me remind me you that the name of the game is Miscellaneous mafia. We've had a politician and a pope so far. There are mechanazis and llamas. If you are really trying to pull that card I think you need to take a step back and realize what game you are playing in.


It doesn't matter if you are telling us the truth now. You were lieing to us before, by posting random crap.
Llandros2009-05-11 21:04:48
Also, Bali if you are town you should start acting in it's best interest instead of your own.
I can't decide if you are scum or whatever. I thought Diamondias was scummy, but she turned up dead/town so what do i know.
Zynna2009-05-11 21:09:33
Bali, your scuminess just went from not at all to through the roof for me.

Vote: Bali

Unknown2009-05-11 21:17:09
QUOTE (Dag)
It doesn't matter if you are telling us the truth now. You were lieing to us before, by posting random crap.


In another game? Metagaming much? Whats next, you quote the boy who cried wolf? Wasnt really playing the other game, TRAP SPRUNG is something people who play mafia alot throw out there in the early game to get a lynch or two. Doesnt really mean anything. Dream Castle was classic! I think if you look back at my history on these boards you'll see that my posting style is pretty consistant when I'm playing town seriously, which I am now.

Sure, I like to mix it up every once in awhile, but that doesnt mean I'm completely untrustworthy. You know what, I'm not asking you to trust me. I'm asking you to look at the situation objectively and measure risk vs reward. Maybe look at things logically. Oh wait, I'm talking to Daganev.

doh.gif

QUOTE (Zynna)
Bali, your scuminess just went from not at all to through the roof for me.


Vague, predatory, and oppurtunistic! All in one post!
Kiradawea2009-05-11 21:17:13
Wow. Ratings are gonna go through the roof. I'll have to make sure to get this carnage on tape.

Anyway, the polls are in. For fishing for information if this reporter has any powers. For overly aggressiveness. For repeating information without ever really adding anything. And just recently, for voting without much proof of anything.

The stance is clear. The people have spoken, and they do proclaim that they wish to Vote: Zynna

Thank you for this exceedingly short interruption. Now goodnight.
Zynna2009-05-11 21:31:55
QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ May 11 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vague, predatory, and oppurtunistic! All in one post!


But not as opportunistic as yours...I don't get a shiny power for voting for you. sad.gif

But if you want specific reasons, you helped lead a lynch against someone because you would gain a power, a power you refuse to share with us now, you lied about your role which could have resulted in the investigator revealing themselves too early, Myrkr wasn't scum, and you just voted/unvoted for us all trying to do who knows what to us.

Sham said that information was still going out to people, so hopefully we will hear from the others soon that will help shed more light on what happened yesterday and give us more to go on.

Dag, you were right with your first version of the statement where you said something like 'until we learn who the scum are.' I'm not scum. I have no powers, and I have no insight into the llamas, weather, etc.
Daganev2009-05-11 21:35:58
QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ May 11 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In another game? Metagaming much?


No, in this game. When you claimed to be an investigator and said that you didn't know anything about myrkr except that she was scum.

I am looking at things logically, and so far you have done nothing good for the town but lie to us and post random crap. You may also want to take notice of whom people are actually voting for. You are defending yourself against a non existent attack.

Furien thought your claim was convenient, I pointed out that you could have made a much more "convenient" defense for yourself. I.e., I was defending you, you numskull. Not only did you lie to us, but we can't even use that voting record for that lynch as proof of anything because none of us had any reason to believe that you were lying to us at the time.
Llandros2009-05-11 21:39:00
All things being equal, i'd rather lynch scum, but barring that I'd rather lynch a VT than a townie with powers......
Daganev2009-05-11 21:41:43
QUOTE (Llandros @ May 11 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All things being equal, i'd rather lynch scum, but barring that I'd rather lynch a VT than a townie with powers......


WIFOM gone bad? or honest claim? (let me know if anyone needs me to explain this comment)
Zynna2009-05-11 21:43:23
QUOTE (Llandros @ May 11 2009, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All things being equal, i'd rather lynch scum, but barring that I'd rather lynch a VT than a townie with powers......


What does VT stand for?
Unknown2009-05-11 21:43:50
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But not as opportunistic as yours...I don't get a shiny power for voting for you.

But if you want specific reasons, you helped lead a lynch against someone because you would gain a power, a power you refuse to share with us now, you lied about your role which could have resulted in the investigator revealing themselves too early, Myrkr wasn't scum, and you just voted/unvoted for us all trying to do who knows what to us.

Sham said that information was still going out to people, so hopefully we will hear from the others soon that will help shed more light on what happened yesterday and give us more to go on.

Dag, you were right with your first version of the statement where you said something like 'until we learn who the scum are.' I'm not scum. I have no powers, and I have no insight into the llamas, weather, etc.


Oh man you are too easy.

1. I went with Myrkr because I thought it was the best course of action. Because if you follow correctly, I voted for her first, THEN the PM from Sham came.
2. Think about Raskolnikov. What can he do. He can do several things. Why would I come outright and say what my new power is. Fish more. That is totally detrimental to Myrkr's sacrifice.
3. "which could have resulted in the investigator revealing themselves too early" What a total fallacy. If someone claims cop, then someone counter claims cop early, its because they are retarded, not because its standard operating procedure.
4. Yes, I did. I was trying to prompt Sham send me new powers. Trying to get more information to help town is scummy? It was a nice try, but its not going to work because he doesnt like to be metagamed.

GGs

Vote: Zynna
Zynna2009-05-11 21:44:05
QUOTE (daganev @ May 11 2009, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WIFOM gone bad? or honest claim? (let me know if anyone needs me to explain this comment)


Yes please, I don't know what this means.
Llandros2009-05-11 21:49:59
QUOTE (daganev @ May 11 2009, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WIFOM gone bad? or honest claim? (let me know if anyone needs me to explain this comment)

Well, specifically it was in response to Zynna's defense claiming VT (vanillay townie). When someone says don't lynch me I have no important role to play, well it's not very compelling.
At least Bali said he got something out of it, something which he thinks is worth not telling people even though it will probably annoy them further.
Daganev2009-05-11 21:50:16
VT stands for Vanilla Townie.

WIFOM stands for (Wine in front of me) and comes from a famous scene in the princess bride, where the dread pirate roberts has to guess if the poisoned wine is in front of himself, or in front of the Sicilian smile.gif

Meaning, obviously people would rather lynch a vanilla townie than a powered townie. So you (Zynna) might be claiming townie, either because it's the truth, or because you think that that since its a "bad claim" at this point, people will believe it to be true, rather than just going with the "bad claim" and lynching you anyways.