Daganev2009-05-12 18:24:34
QUOTE (Fania @ May 12 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do we know this for sure?
No, I just posted claims
Fania2009-05-12 18:28:59
Yeah, we can't confirm it, so he should have a question mark by his name, Dag. Or at least say who is confirmed by at least one other player (maybe more?). Now that I look at it again, there are several unconfirmed claims on there. Anything you post by someone's name will be thought of as truth by some, and will prevent us from looking at all the possibilities. If you do an updated version include the skills of the dead, as well.
Daganev2009-05-12 18:38:50
Quoting Silfferas, putting people in order of post count:
Who posted in: Miscellaneous Mafia
Poster Posts
Shiri 93
daganev 77 - used power on D1, ended day and prevented nightkills (one-shot?), Star Wars link
B_a_L_i 48 - DEAD Rikov/tracker
Arix 47 - targeted Kiradawea N1, Shiri N2, ability "fairly useless, since it requires that I target someone with a compatible ability at the same time they happen to be using their power"
rika 33
Kiriwe y'Kaliath 33 - some wizard (?) from Harry Potter, dayvig (limited?)
Solanis 33 - claimed vanilla mason with Kiradawea
Llandros 29 - claims advanced cyborg, benefits tech-based roles on death and nightkill-immune from N2 onwards
diamondais 27 - DEAD - was Pope/Vig
Myrkr 26 - DEAD was Obama/Doctor
Zynna 25 - claimed vanilla townie
Reiha 25
Fania 24
casilu 22 - Offspring/song?, random powers (?) when bolded lines/lyrics are posted during the day
Shamarah 21 - THE MOD
Furien 21
Aerotan 19
Silferras 16
Esano 12
Shaddus Mes'ard 10 - targeted Llandros N1 (no religion), Bali N2 (heretic), apparently able to find out religious inclinations of target
Kiradawea 8 -- claimed vanilla mason with Solanis, has been 'reporting'
Serella 7 - claimed town ("honestly am town and probably not the most worthwhile target for a lynch") after slight confusion over win condition
Jack 4 - NOT PLAYING
Dugan Diluculo 1 - NOT PLAYING
Archer2 1 - NOT PLAYING
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Who posted in: Miscellaneous Mafia
Poster Posts
Shiri 93
daganev 77 - used power on D1, ended day and prevented nightkills (one-shot?), Star Wars link
B_a_L_i 48 - DEAD Rikov/tracker
Arix 47 - targeted Kiradawea N1, Shiri N2, ability "fairly useless, since it requires that I target someone with a compatible ability at the same time they happen to be using their power"
rika 33
Kiriwe y'Kaliath 33 - some wizard (?) from Harry Potter, dayvig (limited?)
Solanis 33 - claimed vanilla mason with Kiradawea
Llandros 29 - claims advanced cyborg, benefits tech-based roles on death and nightkill-immune from N2 onwards
diamondais 27 - DEAD - was Pope/Vig
Myrkr 26 - DEAD was Obama/Doctor
Zynna 25 - claimed vanilla townie
Reiha 25
Fania 24
casilu 22 - Offspring/song?, random powers (?) when bolded lines/lyrics are posted during the day
Shamarah 21 - THE MOD
Furien 21
Aerotan 19
Silferras 16
Esano 12
Shaddus Mes'ard 10 - targeted Llandros N1 (no religion), Bali N2 (heretic), apparently able to find out religious inclinations of target
Kiradawea 8 -- claimed vanilla mason with Solanis, has been 'reporting'
Serella 7 - claimed town ("honestly am town and probably not the most worthwhile target for a lynch") after slight confusion over win condition
Jack 4 - NOT PLAYING
Dugan Diluculo 1 - NOT PLAYING
Archer2 1 - NOT PLAYING
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Shamarah2009-05-12 19:06:25
Vote Count
"This was not because he was cowardly and abject, quite the contrary; but for some time past, he had been in an overstrained, irritable condition, verging on hypochondria. He had become so completely absorbed in himself, and isolated from his fellows that he dreaded meeting, not only his landlady, but anyone at all." --Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
Zynna - 2 (Kiradawea, Solanis)
Aerotan - 1 (Shiri)
Shaddus - 1 (Daganev)
Serella - 1 (Zynna)
10 to lynch.
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Normally, I do not make it a policy to comment on roles after they have been revealed. However, because some of the conversation here indicates that there was some ambiguity in Diamondais's role where there was not meant to be any, I should clarify that Diamondais was able to target anyone. The reference to heretics was simple flavor. In all respects she was an ordinary vigilante except for the "cooldown" on her ability.
I add this clarification not to help out a town that is having difficulties but rather to clarify a point that was never meant to be ambiguous. I probably should have been clearer in the role description. This information should be considered in isolation and relates only to the perceived ambiguities in Diamondais's role, and you should not attempt to apply it to any other roleclaims.
"This was not because he was cowardly and abject, quite the contrary; but for some time past, he had been in an overstrained, irritable condition, verging on hypochondria. He had become so completely absorbed in himself, and isolated from his fellows that he dreaded meeting, not only his landlady, but anyone at all." --Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
Zynna - 2 (Kiradawea, Solanis)
Aerotan - 1 (Shiri)
Shaddus - 1 (Daganev)
Serella - 1 (Zynna)
10 to lynch.
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Normally, I do not make it a policy to comment on roles after they have been revealed. However, because some of the conversation here indicates that there was some ambiguity in Diamondais's role where there was not meant to be any, I should clarify that Diamondais was able to target anyone. The reference to heretics was simple flavor. In all respects she was an ordinary vigilante except for the "cooldown" on her ability.
I add this clarification not to help out a town that is having difficulties but rather to clarify a point that was never meant to be ambiguous. I probably should have been clearer in the role description. This information should be considered in isolation and relates only to the perceived ambiguities in Diamondais's role, and you should not attempt to apply it to any other roleclaims.
Casilu2009-05-12 19:11:29
QUOTE (daganev @ May 12 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Always very suspicious of that one. Also, does that mean Shaddus was caught in a mod confirmed lie?
Zynna2009-05-12 19:16:54
Unvote. Vote: Shaddus
Shamarah2009-05-12 19:19:19
QUOTE (Shamarah @ May 12 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This information should be considered in isolation and relates only to the perceived ambiguities in Diamondais's role, and you should not attempt to apply it to any other discussions or claims.
To double-clarify my intentions there, I edited the above into my post.
Daganev2009-05-12 19:45:57
QUOTE (casilu @ May 12 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Always very suspicious of that one. Also, does that mean Shaddus was caught in a mod confirmed lie?
No, not at all. Just means that Diamondais didn't have to target heretics, like I said
Daganev2009-05-12 19:46:27
Shamarah, you have me voting twice....
Shamarah2009-05-12 20:15:35
Oops.
Aerotan2009-05-12 20:18:34
Alright, I'm back. Do we know anything about Kiradawea continuing to post as a reporter, despite not having any sort of restriction? At least according to Solanis. Or why she more or less stopped posting after day 1 or 2...
Fania2009-05-12 20:35:21
Zynna2009-05-12 20:37:26
QUOTE (Fania @ May 12 2009, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any particular reason?
Yes, if Diam. could kill anyone, then Shaddus' role of being able to detect heretics doesn't make much sense. A heretic would just be anyone that Diam. declared it to be.
What do you think?
Fania2009-05-12 20:56:17
QUOTE (Zynna @ May 12 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, if Diam. could kill anyone, then Shaddus' role of being able to detect heretics doesn't make much sense. A heretic would just be anyone that Diam. declared it to be.
What do you think?
What do you think?
I think there's something off about you. I don't think "vanilla" is what Shamarah meant when she said every role has flavour.
Kiriwe:
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Avada Kedavra: Bali
I don' t think she's one of the good guys...maybe SK. Like Shiri said I doubt she's Harry Potter with that move. Her spell leads me to believe she's not Harry Potter, so I agree with Shiri. Scum? Maybe. She did kill off Bali, though he was going to be lynched anyways with things the way they were going. I wouldn't think scum or SK would have a kill power during the day, although this is a strange ass game. I'd keep my eye on her if I were you.Having said all that I'm going to put my vote for Shaddus.
Seems the most scummy to me right now. I kind of doubt Bali was a miller (cause if someone's a miller don't they always turn up as scum even if they died?). He was lying/wrong about Bali, which got a town lynched. If you scream "Look, Buzz, an Alien!" people are gonna shoot their tiny light guns all over the place. Until he posted his accusation of Bali he was quiet or just repeated information everyone else had already said.
Vote Shaddus
Llandros2009-05-12 21:05:07
So are yall saying that you think Shaddus lied about his power based on his misunderstanding of Dia's role?
Daganev2009-05-12 21:06:47
QUOTE (Llandros @ May 12 2009, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So are yall saying that you think Shaddus lied about his power based on his misunderstanding of Dia's role?
I don't think shaddus was lieing.
I think shaddus actually can find heretics, and I think his subgroup of people would find that ability useful. I think therefore that he was trying to make us think his group was pro-town, but it's not.
Zynna2009-05-12 21:10:45
QUOTE (daganev @ May 12 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think shaddus was lieing.
I think shaddus actually can find heretics, and I think his subgroup of people would find that ability useful. I think therefore that he was trying to make us think his group was pro-town, but it's not.
I think shaddus actually can find heretics, and I think his subgroup of people would find that ability useful. I think therefore that he was trying to make us think his group was pro-town, but it's not.
Hmm, do you think he was being truthful in his investigation too? That is, that Llandros is not susceptible to religion, etc.
Serella2009-05-12 21:12:56
Just got home from school. I've read over some of the thread and will read the rest and try to contribute, but Balizar was actually town? Oh dear :/
Shaddus2009-05-12 21:16:23
QUOTE (Fania @ May 12 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems the most scummy to me right now. I kind of doubt Bali was a miller (cause if someone's a miller don't they always turn up as scum even if they died?). He was lying/wrong about Bali, which got a town lynched. If you scream "Look, Buzz, an Alien!" people are gonna shoot their tiny light guns all over the place. Until he posted his accusation of Bali he was quiet or just repeated information everyone else had already said.
Vote Shaddus
Vote Shaddus
Did I miss something, and Balizar ended up lynched and showed as a townie?
If you scroll back, I said Balizar was likely a scum, but I'm not sure. My power told me he was a heretic and not Catholic. Didn't say he was scum, I merely put two and two together. I don't have any powers against heretics, I can only find out whether they are one or not. I don't have a sub group, my role only mentions one other person, Catherine of Aragon ( I think), which is who I thought Diamondais might have been. Seeing as my role doesn't make any mention of masons, I even asked Shamarah if she and I were connected, and he replied that she wasn't my wife.
There's not much I can do to stop people from lynching me. I'm not going to ragequit/qq because people suspect me. But I can almost guarentee that if I don't get lynched, I'll probably die tonight anyway, so all of you need to decide what you believe.
Daganev2009-05-12 21:19:34
Who has been watching the Tudors TV show and can think of a connection between Cathrine and some other spanish dude who would search for heretics?