Star Trek!

by Estarra

Back to The Real World.

Arix2009-05-12 06:24:44
I was going to rant about all the plot holes and dozens of things that irritated me, but instead, I shall focus on one specific problem: NOT ENOUGH SIMON PEGG.
Noola2009-05-12 06:26:35
I found out today that all the actors were signed for three Star Trek movies. Which means there's at least two more like this one to look forward to.

This makes me happy! cloud9.gif
Diamondais2009-05-12 22:48:39
QUOTE (Noola @ May 12 2009, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found out today that all the actors were signed for three Star Trek movies. Which means there's at least two more like this one to look forward to.

This makes me happy! cloud9.gif

More Sylar Spock. dribble.gif

(Since there's this weird thing where he's in Heroes but.. not. blackeye.gif )
Isuka2009-05-12 22:54:17
QUOTE (Estarra @ May 8 2009, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am one of those freaks who feels that Star Trek helped shape who I am. I admit I was appalled when I first heard they were doing a movie about the young versions of the original crew. But, over time, I gradually started getting interested and finally got caught up in the hype. Thus, I found myself in line at 1:00 a.m. in the morning last night to watch the new Star Trek movie on IMAX. I'm happy to report that, as an avid fan, I quite enjoyed the movie. That's not to say that there weren't a few things that I didn't like much--but, overall, the focus was on character development rather than story and plot, and they got it right more often than not. Go see it!

Standing in line, I was also struck that there really are very few real Star Trek fans below the age of 35. By 'real' fans, I mean those who watched the original series in their formative years and felt profoundly affected by the experience. At one point, you used to find such fans across all age brackets, but I think the original series has finally passed into pure nostalgia, especially with the dated special effects, costumes, etc. I rarely even see reruns of the later series (NextGen, Deepspace, Voyager, Enterprise) being shown. Ah, well, perhaps this new movie will kickstart a new era for this great vision!

Just a couple of quick comments:

If you're stating that in order for someone to be a real fan, they have to have watched the original series in their formative years, you're really saying that noone under the age of 35 -can- be a real trek fan, aren't you?

Also: satellite TV offers reruns of basically every Star Trek series.
Razenth2009-05-12 23:03:46
What if they watched the series on DVD as little kids? Isn't that watching the series in their formulative years, Isuka?
Lawliet2009-05-12 23:19:47
It's not quite the same thing, when it's a series in creation you've got the anticipation of the next episode, talking about it with your friends and wondering about whatever trailer they had shown for the next episode, with DVDs there isn't any of that, so it has less of an effect on you, so it wont be one of the things that changes you and defines who you are (as a COLLOSAL NERD!)

Also: Saw the movie yesterday (day before? it's past 12 now) and loved it.

MOAR PEGG!
Estarra2009-05-12 23:39:07
QUOTE (Isuka @ May 12 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you're stating that in order for someone to be a real fan, they have to have watched the original series in their formative years, you're really saying that noone under the age of 35 -can- be a real trek fan, aren't you?


Yeah, there's something about this cadre of people who grew up on Star Trek that binds them together--I really don't know how to articulate it. Certainly, there may be others younger than 35 who somehow latched onto Trek, and maybe fans who grew up on the Next Generation/Deep Space/Voyager/Enterprise can be considered real Trek fans as well (though it's somehow different IMO).

There really is something extraordinarily special about certain books/movies/tv that profoundly impact you when you are growing up, and that you will carry through with you for your entire adult life. And when you meet others who were likewise impacted, there is some sort of ethereal bond among you. For me, it was Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Heinlein, C.S. Lewis, and Star Wars (probably there were more but those immediately come to mind). As another example, I've read all the Harry Potter books and enjoyed them and look forward to the movies. But those movies will never impact me the way I see it impacts others who grew up reading those novels and whose imaginations were thus immersed in that fantasy world in their formative years.
Isuka2009-05-13 00:00:00
QUOTE (Estarra @ May 12 2009, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, there's something about this cadre of people who grew up on Star Trek that binds them together--I really don't know how to articulate it. Certainly, there may be others younger than 35 who somehow latched onto Trek, and maybe fans who grew up on the Next Generation/Deep Space/Voyager/Enterprise can be considered real Trek fans as well (though it's somehow different IMO).

There really is something extraordinarily special about certain books/movies/tv that profoundly impact you when you are growing up, and that you will carry through with you for your entire adult life. And when you meet others who were likewise impacted, there is some sort of ethereal bond among you. For me, it was Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Heinlein, C.S. Lewis, and Star Wars (probably there were more but those immediately come to mind). As another example, I've read all the Harry Potter books and enjoyed them and look forward to the movies. But those movies will never impact me the way I see it impacts others who grew up reading those novels and whose imaginations were thus immersed in that fantasy world in their formative years.

I grew up watching TNG. When I was a kid it was a big deal to be able to stay up late and watch TNG with my dad. They are fond memories of me, and have lasted through my life.
Estarra2009-05-13 00:23:02
QUOTE (Isuka @ May 12 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I grew up watching TNG. When I was a kid it was a big deal to be able to stay up late and watch TNG with my dad. They are fond memories of me, and have lasted through my life.


Ah, TNG! I was in college when it came out and a group of us were both elated and terrified at the prospect of a new Trek series. I have lots of fond memories of a group of us gathering around a tv in our smoked-filled Leonardtown dorm room to watch TNG and then discussing it afterwards. The biggest complaint was directed at Wesley Crusher, whom we called 'Rainbow Brite' because of his silly uniform. Once he actually got a real uniform, we were fine with him. The other character that took a long time to warm to was Deanna Troi who was sort of the opposite of our beloved Spock (emotion vs. logic), but eventually she became a favorite character.
Richter2009-05-13 00:26:14
I also grew up on TNG, and never really bothered with the original series. As a kid, it was that silly show that my dad's generation watched.
Diamondais2009-05-13 00:28:34
QUOTE (Richter @ May 12 2009, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also grew up on TNG, and never really bothered with the original series. As a kid, it was that silly show that my dad's generation watched.

I thought this too.
Casilu2009-05-13 20:25:11
Unknown2009-05-13 20:26:59
QUOTE (casilu @ May 13 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


It's true! dazed.gif
Unknown2009-05-13 20:53:52
I grew up watching DS9. That isnt to say I haven't seen almost every episode of tos, tng, voyager, enterprise. >.>

I enjoyed it, more or less. I laughed, I teared up, I ooohhh'd and awwwwe'd.

Picard was the best captain, and always will be.
Siam2009-05-13 21:07:13
QUOTE (Estarra @ May 13 2009, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, there's something about this cadre of people who grew up on Star Trek that binds them together--I really don't know how to articulate it. Certainly, there may be others younger than 35 who somehow latched onto Trek, and maybe fans who grew up on the Next Generation/Deep Space/Voyager/Enterprise can be considered real Trek fans as well (though it's somehow different IMO).

There really is something extraordinarily special about certain books/movies/tv that profoundly impact you when you are growing up, and that you will carry through with you for your entire adult life. And when you meet others who were likewise impacted, there is some sort of ethereal bond among you. For me, it was Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Heinlein, C.S. Lewis, and Star Wars (probably there were more but those immediately come to mind). As another example, I've read all the Harry Potter books and enjoyed them and look forward to the movies. But those movies will never impact me the way I see it impacts others who grew up reading those novels and whose imaginations were thus immersed in that fantasy world in their formative years.


This is so true. There's always something that binds the majority of each generation, and when these people gather together and discuss these things, everything suddenly seems so mutual, even if they're from different backgrounds.
Estarra2009-05-13 21:12:13
QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ May 13 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Picard was the best captain, and always will be.


That's so not true! Kirk is the penultimate captain. This was apparent in the movie Generations. Overall, a pretty crap movie, but Kirk ate up the scenery (as they say in thespian parlance) whenever he appeared and overshadowed Picard to the point where you barely noticed Picard when they had a scene together. Yes, Kirk is a big ham (though not as big a ham as William Shatner), but he's larger than life and you gotta love him!

Erm, why are we writing this as a spoiler?
Unknown2009-05-13 21:39:00
Because spoilers are fun!

I've never seen Generations. Or I probably have, I'm just forgetting it. I'll netflix it.

Personally I think Stewart is the best actor of all the captains. I dont know what it is, I just enjoy the lofty regality of Picard over the hammy charisma of Kirk.
Siam2009-05-13 22:00:16
QUOTE (Estarra @ May 14 2009, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's so not true! Kirk is the penultimate captain. This was apparent in the movie Generations. Overall, a pretty crap movie, but Kirk ate up the scenery (as they say in thespian parlance) whenever he appeared and overshadowed Picard to the point where you barely noticed Picard when they had a scene together. Yes, Kirk is a big ham (though not as big a ham as William Shatner), but he's larger than life and you gotta love him!

Erm, why are we writing this as a spoiler?



QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ May 14 2009, 05:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because spoilers are fun!

I've never seen Generations. Or I probably have, I'm just forgetting it. I'll netflix it.

Personally I think Stewart is the best actor of all the captains. I dont know what it is, I just enjoy the lofty regality of Picard over the hammy charisma of Kirk.


Gah. how do you even highlight them?!
Unknown2009-05-16 04:33:32
I finally saw Star Trek! fear.gif

It was awesome!

What other people said!
Noola2009-05-16 04:41:35
QUOTE (Volroc @ May 15 2009, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I finally saw Star Trek! fear.gif

It was awesome!

What other people said!



It really was awesome! I might have to see it a third time.

And, have you finished reading my story yet, mister? dazed.gif