Xavius2009-07-11 22:50:05
I can't think of any way to fit that analogy that would justify 1) never using it prior, 2) it not working in that instance, and 3) not trying to use it immediately afterwards. Mrm.
Vote: Siam
Vote: Siam
Siam2009-07-12 05:44:40
QUOTE (rika @ Jul 12 2009, 06:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What annoys me about Siam is the analogies he tries to make. If you have something to say, just say it up front. If you don't want scum hearing it, don't say it at all. If someone on town can make it out, chances are one of the scum can make it out too.
Fine. I have abilities similar to Dugan's, I'll give you just that. And my first use of trying to investigate things was wrong :/ Even Casilu lol'ed. It was an honest mistake, really. Anyways, this is what caused me to use the ability(though I failed, since the conditions for using was not, and as of now, still not met) :
QUOTE
Rika: claims to be able to have proved Bali was Phoenix Wright - why, we don't know
FOS:Diamondais still stands.
Diamondais2009-07-12 05:58:32
So you keep saying.
Xavius2009-07-12 05:59:39
I'm feeling more strongly on this one now. Either Siam fails at analogies, or he's not sure how he's going to dig himself out of this one.
Rika2009-07-12 06:52:15
Yeah, after that I'm still sort of confused. :S
Why are you FOSing diamondais again?
Why are you FOSing diamondais again?
Siam2009-07-12 07:26:00
Yes, I fail at analogies.
I'm a night investigator. And I obviously made a mistake.
As for diamondais, she's one of the people we know little/nothing about, along with several other persons. I don't understand why you'd all want to go vote for me, when you all have an idea of what I can do, instead of voting for those persons we don't know anything about.
I'm a night investigator. And I obviously made a mistake.
As for diamondais, she's one of the people we know little/nothing about, along with several other persons. I don't understand why you'd all want to go vote for me, when you all have an idea of what I can do, instead of voting for those persons we don't know anything about.
Daganev2009-07-12 07:29:24
QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 12 2009, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I fail at analogies.
I'm a night investigator. And I obviously made a mistake.
As for diamondais, she's one of the people we know little/nothing about, along with several other persons. I don't understand why you'd all want to go vote for me, when you all have an idea of what I can do, instead of voting for those persons we don't know anything about.
I'm a night investigator. And I obviously made a mistake.
As for diamondais, she's one of the people we know little/nothing about, along with several other persons. I don't understand why you'd all want to go vote for me, when you all have an idea of what I can do, instead of voting for those persons we don't know anything about.
Now that you have actually said this, would you mind telling us who you investigated and what you found? (though to be honest, I think this point was obvious to Shiri and myself.)
Shiri2009-07-12 07:35:33
He's trying to make out he has a condition on his investigative ability.
Since it hasn't been of any use so far, and you were acting kind of scummily way earlier in the game, and now all this latest nonsense, I'm not sure we need to allow it to continue.
Unvote Rika Vote: Siam (going riiiiight back to Rika if Siam turns up scum incidentally)
Since it hasn't been of any use so far, and you were acting kind of scummily way earlier in the game, and now all this latest nonsense, I'm not sure we need to allow it to continue.
Unvote Rika Vote: Siam (going riiiiight back to Rika if Siam turns up scum incidentally)
Siam2009-07-12 07:48:48
I've only ever tried investigating Rika at daytime, which is as I've said impossible since I'm a night investigator plus the conditions require to use my ability are not met. The thing is that I misread someone's name when they got killed, and thought that I could use my power by then to investigate Rika(who was being focused on by Shiri and refused to tell anything other than: "I'm evil and I'm also town.") I went to sleep soon after that since there were only less than 10 people in the forums and it was getting late in my time zone. (Hong Kong timezone) Casilu thenreminded me through a message(since I asked her right after posting the bolded INVESTIGATE:RIKA thing) that my ability cannot be used just yet since:
a.) condition one hasn't been met
b.) I'm a night investigator.
I also cannot use it yet due to the same reasons stated above.
a.) condition one hasn't been met
b.) I'm a night investigator.
I also cannot use it yet due to the same reasons stated above.
Siam2009-07-12 07:50:55
Also, I'd like to note that my attempt on investigating Rika was my first and only attempt.
Noola2009-07-12 08:24:46
QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 12 2009, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, I'd like to note that my attempt on investigating Rika was my first and only attempt.
Why is it your first attempt? Why didn't you investigate each night? Or, if you did think your ability was a daytime ability, why didn't you try day one?
Vote thisismydisplayname because I find the idea of an Investigator who doesn't investigate to be suspicious.
Noola2009-07-12 08:28:03
Or was your attempt on Day One? I forget (and don't feel like digging through all these pages to find out ). If it was Day One though, you knew then that it was a nighttime ability and still didn't investigate so you're still suspicious.
Daganev2009-07-12 08:39:44
right now, I find anyone going after thisismydisplay/siam name to be suspicious.
Obviously when he saw one of the dead people, he thought it meant his condition was met. But it wasn't, and he goofed. For scum to make a mistake like that would be HIGHLY unlikely.
Obviously when he saw one of the dead people, he thought it meant his condition was met. But it wasn't, and he goofed. For scum to make a mistake like that would be HIGHLY unlikely.
Siam2009-07-12 08:42:35
QUOTE (Noola @ Jul 12 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or was your attempt on Day One? I forget (and don't feel like digging through all these pages to find out ). If it was Day One though, you knew then that it was a nighttime ability and still didn't investigate so you're still suspicious.
QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 12 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've only ever tried investigating Rika at daytime, which is as I've said impossible since I'm a night investigator plus the conditions require to use my ability are not met. The thing is that I misread someone's name when they got killed, and thought that I could use my power by then to investigate Rika(who was being focused on by Shiri and refused to tell anything other than: "I'm evil and I'm also town.") I went to sleep soon after that since there were only less than 10 people in the forums and it was getting late in my time zone. (Hong Kong timezone) Casilu thenreminded me through a message(since I asked her right after posting the bolded INVESTIGATE:RIKA thing) that my ability cannot be used just yet since:
a.) condition one hasn't been met
b.) I'm a night investigator.
I also cannot use it yet due to the same reasons stated above.
a.) condition one hasn't been met
b.) I'm a night investigator.
I also cannot use it yet due to the same reasons stated above.
Goodness. Bolded for emphasis. And just to note:
The condition to use my ability still has not been met.
Please reread my own statement which I quoted.
Noola2009-07-12 09:04:03
Ah. I did miss that. Sorry, it's 4am for me, my reading comprehension is at about the kindergarten level.
Unvote.
Unvote.
Shiri2009-07-12 09:24:21
QUOTE (daganev @ Jul 12 2009, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
right now, I find anyone going after thisismydisplay/siam name to be suspicious.
Obviously when he saw one of the dead people, he thought it meant his condition was met. But it wasn't, and he goofed. For scum to make a mistake like that would be HIGHLY unlikely.
Obviously when he saw one of the dead people, he thought it meant his condition was met. But it wasn't, and he goofed. For scum to make a mistake like that would be HIGHLY unlikely.
What? Why is that any more unlikely as a scum than as a townie?
More importantly, shouldn't we hear exactly what this condition is? I was willing to let this go at first because I thought he might just be a night investigator that screwed up (which in retrospect was dumb of me because he should have known from the two nights before that...?) but an investigator that doesn't actually produce anything isn't of any particular value to us, he's been following my votes after the Solanis failure without contributing much, and without knowing what the condition is it's hard to tell whether he'll ever be able to actually prove his claim, which is normally one of the more easily-confirmable ones.
There is a certain likelihood that the scum will benefit from knowing what the condition is if he is telling the truth, but even though he put INVESTIGATE RIKA in the thread, then Daganev and I backed off him for the day (which is kind of an obvious hint even if we don't call attention to it more than we have to) he didn't die. That could have been Xiran's fault (Solanis targetted you so it wasn't him) but I'm not so sure (Xiran, who did you target again?) Also if we determine he is telling the truth we might be able to help him get there, so.
Siam2009-07-12 10:00:17
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 12 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What? Why is that any more unlikely as a scum than as a townie?
More importantly, shouldn't we hear exactly what this condition is? I was willing to let this go at first because I thought he might just be a night investigator that screwed up (which in retrospect was dumb of me because he should have known from the two nights before that...?) but an investigator that doesn't actually produce anything isn't of any particular value to us, he's been following my votes after the Solanis failure without contributing much, and without knowing what the condition is it's hard to tell whether he'll ever be able to actually prove his claim, which is normally one of the more easily-confirmable ones.
There is a certain likelihood that the scum will benefit from knowing what the condition is if he is telling the truth, but even though he put INVESTIGATE RIKA in the thread, then Daganev and I backed off him for the day (which is kind of an obvious hint even if we don't call attention to it more than we have to) he didn't die. That could have been Xiran's fault (Solanis targetted you so it wasn't him) but I'm not so sure (Xiran, who did you target again?) Also if we determine he is telling the truth we might be able to help him get there, so.
More importantly, shouldn't we hear exactly what this condition is? I was willing to let this go at first because I thought he might just be a night investigator that screwed up (which in retrospect was dumb of me because he should have known from the two nights before that...?) but an investigator that doesn't actually produce anything isn't of any particular value to us, he's been following my votes after the Solanis failure without contributing much, and without knowing what the condition is it's hard to tell whether he'll ever be able to actually prove his claim, which is normally one of the more easily-confirmable ones.
There is a certain likelihood that the scum will benefit from knowing what the condition is if he is telling the truth, but even though he put INVESTIGATE RIKA in the thread, then Daganev and I backed off him for the day (which is kind of an obvious hint even if we don't call attention to it more than we have to) he didn't die. That could have been Xiran's fault (Solanis targetted you so it wasn't him) but I'm not so sure (Xiran, who did you target again?) Also if we determine he is telling the truth we might be able to help him get there, so.
As I've said(and bolded in response to Noola):
QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 12 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've only ever tried investigating Rika at daytime, which is as I've said impossible since I'm a night investigator plus the conditions require to use my ability are not met. The thing is that I misread someone's name when they got killed, and thought that I could use my power by then to investigate Rika(who was being focused on by Shiri and refused to tell anything other than: "I'm evil and I'm also town.") I went to sleep soon after that since there were only less than 10 people in the forums and it was getting late in my time zone. (Hong Kong timezone) Casilu thenreminded me through a message(since I asked her right after posting the bolded INVESTIGATE:RIKA thing) that my ability cannot be used just yet since:
a.) condition one hasn't been met
b.) I'm a night investigator.
I also cannot use it yet due to the same reasons stated above.
a.) condition one hasn't been met
b.) I'm a night investigator.
I also cannot use it yet due to the same reasons stated above.
As I've said, my attempt was a mistake, and currently, my conditions haven't been met. I've stated enough for everyone to figure out the condition without me having to state it word for word, I believe.
Shiri2009-07-12 10:22:46
1. quoting that post is meaningless, I already read it
2. you believe incorrectly, because either there is ambiguity or the scum can likely figure it out and the town won't necessarily be able to
2. you believe incorrectly, because either there is ambiguity or the scum can likely figure it out and the town won't necessarily be able to
Siam2009-07-12 10:33:36
Fine. I can only use my ability when person x is killed. Happy?
Unknown2009-07-12 10:45:42
I think it's clear that Siam was just being a noob.
Don't understand how someone's death can let you investigate people.
Don't understand how someone's death can let you investigate people.