Kiradawea2009-07-23 16:00:10
Hmm, I am having a thought on this. We're assuming that there's an L out there right? With both Shaddus and Siam not being L, there is an indication on who might be L no? Someone who is very likely to have a restriction on revealing himself. And there's the fact that in Death Note, L was hard at work to stop a SKer.
And, playing the power game, so far all SKers have had additional powers that help them getting near end-game situations. One was a tank, one had an unlimited DK maneuver with a restriction, one had a 50% death resistance... see where I'm going with this? Execution is a dangerous power and if Rika is a SKer, she'll be lethal near the end-game.
And, playing the power game, so far all SKers have had additional powers that help them getting near end-game situations. One was a tank, one had an unlimited DK maneuver with a restriction, one had a 50% death resistance... see where I'm going with this? Execution is a dangerous power and if Rika is a SKer, she'll be lethal near the end-game.
Shiri2009-07-23 16:07:24
The thing is, we can kill Rika tomorrow if Llandros is telling the truth (and maybe Xiran, if innocent, can roleblock her too to stop her killing anyone), and we already have an investigator, so given Llandros behaviour all game we risk more by not trying this than by trying it.
Llandros2009-07-23 17:00:51
The identity of L should not be difficult to figure out. There is literally nothing else I can to to try and make that more clear.
@Shiri stop trying to lynch me! Let's lynch the investigator (you know, the one that actually get's info on people's alignment and not just random background stuff) to see if he is telling the truth seems like a really bad argument to me.
Also, with the sk influx shouldn't we take a second look at sham? I don't see why he's the only non-townie who isn't a murderbot. What do we know about alergic?
@Shiri stop trying to lynch me! Let's lynch the investigator (you know, the one that actually get's info on people's alignment and not just random background stuff) to see if he is telling the truth seems like a really bad argument to me.
Also, with the sk influx shouldn't we take a second look at sham? I don't see why he's the only non-townie who isn't a murderbot. What do we know about alergic?
Unknown2009-07-23 17:20:44
As far as I remember, you don't know much of anything about me besides what I've said/done.
Unknown2009-07-23 17:43:01
I think we get the same information from lynching Rika that we would get from lynching Llandros. And Llandros alive means we continue to get more information. If it's a choice between these two, I'd go with Rika.
Dugan2009-07-23 17:53:39
QUOTE (Llandros @ Jul 23 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Shiri stop trying to lynch me! Let's lynch the investigator (you know, the one that actually get's info on people's alignment and not just random background stuff) to see if he is telling the truth seems like a really bad argument to me.
Deleting out some of the non-important stuff. You say you get actual info on people's alignment and not just random background stuff, but then you also post that you are not 100% certain on Rika and leave room for a margin of error just in case something was wrong.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Llandros.
Llandros2009-07-23 18:20:51
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Jul 23 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Deleting out some of the non-important stuff. You say you get actual info on people's alignment and not just random background stuff, but then you also post that you are not 100% certain on Rika and leave room for a margin of error just in case something was wrong.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Llandros.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Llandros.
There are plenty of ways you can verrify that I'm telling the truth that don't invovle killing me but if you choose to not take them then that's up to you. It seems as if there is a back up for the role you are trying to eliminate anyway.
Casilu2009-07-23 20:14:08
I'm laughing right now, because this game might be as long as an old Lack of Rants thread.
Dugan2009-07-23 20:15:47
It is one of the longer threads I have seen ....
Unknown2009-07-23 20:30:18
I agree with Kiradawea and Llandros, so I'm going to point FoS: Shiri. My vote stays on Rika.
Unknown2009-07-23 20:37:51
Whoops. Wrong slash. (Too much scripting.) FoS: Shiri!
Unknown2009-07-24 00:17:31
vote rika
Between Llandros and rika, going for rika.
Between Llandros and rika, going for rika.
Unknown2009-07-24 00:43:21
QUOTE (Vote Count)
Rika (5): Llandros, Xikue, AllergictoSabres, Shamarah, Solanis
Shaddus (0):
Llandros (3): Rika, Shiri, Dugan
Shaddus (0):
Llandros (3): Rika, Shiri, Dugan
I find a setup where Llandros is a scum investigator and Siam is his back up to be highly unlikely, if not ridiculous.
Shiri2009-07-24 03:09:24
Siam doesn't have to be a backup in this scenario. Just think about how scummy Llandros has been acting through the whole thread and consider how much we learn with one option or the other, especially considering we can just get Rika tomorrow if she is lying.
Also it is a bit funny that you're getting worried about continuing information, Xiran, when you're claiming we already have both a "backup" and another investigator. There is the possibility that Dugan is the scum investigator here, but I'm not sure that he's watched Naruto to be able to make that role up and there's less obvious collusion with him than there is with Llandros.
Also it is a bit funny that you're getting worried about continuing information, Xiran, when you're claiming we already have both a "backup" and another investigator. There is the possibility that Dugan is the scum investigator here, but I'm not sure that he's watched Naruto to be able to make that role up and there's less obvious collusion with him than there is with Llandros.
Unknown2009-07-24 03:39:41
It is clear that neither gets a full profile when investigating, so I don't see why one of them has to be scum. Also, Rika could be like Silferras, who would have turned up as town based on alignment alone.
Llandros2009-07-24 03:40:27
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 23 2009, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Siam doesn't have to be a backup in this scenario. Just think about how scummy Llandros has been acting through the whole thread and consider how much we learn with one option or the other, especially considering we can just get Rika tomorrow if she is lying.
Also it is a bit funny that you're getting worried about continuing information, Xiran, when you're claiming we already have both a "backup" and another investigator. There is the possibility that Dugan is the scum investigator here, but I'm not sure that he's watched Naruto to be able to make that role up and there's less obvious collusion with him than there is with Llandros.
Also it is a bit funny that you're getting worried about continuing information, Xiran, when you're claiming we already have both a "backup" and another investigator. There is the possibility that Dugan is the scum investigator here, but I'm not sure that he's watched Naruto to be able to make that role up and there's less obvious collusion with him than there is with Llandros.
How will you know Rika is lying? Is there a third investigator that you haven't tried to railroad yet?
Shiri2009-07-24 03:43:32
QUOTE (Xikue @ Jul 24 2009, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is clear that neither gets a full profile when investigating, so I don't see why one of them has to be scum. Also, Rika could be like Silferras, who would have turned up as town based on alignment alone.
...what?
Llandros: if you're telling the truth, Siam and Dugan (who didn't turn up anything on Rika, notice) can cover for you. If you're lying, well...we didn't gain anything from having you alive anyway, obviously.
I forget, did Daganev daykill someone earlier or was that Noola? Do we still have one available to use without ending the day?
Shiri2009-07-24 03:44:05
Also we'll know she's lying since you'll be an investigator...heh. If you're not, she is probably but not certainly telling the truth. Simple.
Unknown2009-07-24 03:45:23
Daganev's dead. He killed Bali.
Noola's alive, but she was power-boosted yesterday and I'm not sure of the extent of her powers now.
Why are you so intent on lynching Llandros?
Noola's alive, but she was power-boosted yesterday and I'm not sure of the extent of her powers now.
Why are you so intent on lynching Llandros?
Llandros2009-07-24 03:47:05
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 23 2009, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...what?
Llandros: if you're telling the truth, Siam and Dugan (who didn't turn up anything on Rika, notice) can cover for you. If you're lying, well...we didn't gain anything from having you alive anyway, obviously.
I forget, did Daganev daykill someone earlier or was that Noola? Do we still have one available to use without ending the day?
Llandros: if you're telling the truth, Siam and Dugan (who didn't turn up anything on Rika, notice) can cover for you. If you're lying, well...we didn't gain anything from having you alive anyway, obviously.
I forget, did Daganev daykill someone earlier or was that Noola? Do we still have one available to use without ending the day?
Nice, you can't convince enough people to lynch me so you are trying to get me day killed. Well, sorry but noola's was a one shot deal and Myrkr is mia.