I was scared to death of rockeaters as a level 75 imperial merian aqua, and to be honest, I never noticed the eq bonus.

Back in my day, Celestian Merians were racist bastards who constantly talked about merian supremacy. the nerf made me giggle

Merian used to be an Amazing race actually, but the admin did that thing they do when they go. Nnyyahhoooh and invert everything, or "Overcompensate" When they did the racial changes a guess they flipped a coin and it landed heads so Viscanti got to be a good race for a little while.

I don't think there's a lot more to discuss.

There is a general consensus that Merians aren't good. This public opinion has existed for a while, with various threads and ideas being posted. It doesn't seem like there's any interest in fixing them any time soon.

Really? I am a lobo psymet nekotai. Perhaps the added psymet defs against elementals helps, or I am high enough in circles. I can usually solo two at a time and manually heal.

The burning "your on fire" damage is laughable. Maybe 100 point damage or so.

This isn't any other IRE game. Those stats are awful. Int has awful scaling after 18, dex is bad which actually matters here, and in a game where you can get zerged by 5-10 people at any given time, con is a big deal. Aspyxiation resistance helps against a fraction of a fraction of attacks. 50% of nightkiss and like 25% of mage staff is asphyx damage. Fluidswim is lol and the regen is nice, but you need good con for good regen.

The fire/elec weakness can not be compensated for. Warriors with elementals already hit like a freight train. You're basically Vathael/Shuyin/Thoros/Desitrus food as a merian. If you have 3k health or less, you're going to dead in one puissance combo.

edit: one thing you have to understand is that damage comes in two forms. Zerg or artied demi. Certain racial weaknesses are crippling (lobo/illithoid magical, merian/mugwump fire/elec) only because of 2 or 3 people. Illithoid would be the perfect race if it wasn't for Xiel.



Uh, when? They've always been bad. I don't know why people are acting like they got worse with the changes. Merians were basically untouched. Viscanti are the better race, I'll give you that.

I think the implication is not that the Admins gave Merian something to make them worse, it's that they didn't do anything to Merian and the sp/eq/stat nerfs hammered Merians without giving them anything to compensate for them. So while Merian may not have been a fantastic race to begin with, it was better then compared to what it is now.

Go back to snuggling centaur ponies, you damn bookbinding warrior RPer. I'll do the -real- work around here.

*grunts, beats chest, looks intimidating*

Where the hell did that come from?

I have almost no defense against magic damage. I could do it as a psymet, heck, as a faeling I could handle two or three without a problem.

Yes they got worse, if your not in the know. Their eq went poof, which was their only real advantage they got stat nerf'd too. Where at one point highs and lows where great which made them great. After the change everything kind of slumped to middle of the road races. Because all the balances were reduced and the max damages where lowered alot. I blame Desichan because he just had to play a Lobo aquamancer. And I can understand why you think this never having to get raped by Forren would lead to a good arguement in your head.

What? Stat weighting ("max damages") wasn't addressed in the racial rebalance. Caster damage has been addressed by the admin once since I've been playing, and it had nothing to do with int scaling.

Forren was also a human. I think he was a merian tk while he bashed to demi, but the Forren I played with (yes, I was actually around when he was and his damage was not anything to quiver in fear about) was human.

Anyways, pointless argument. They suck, they've always sucked.

Pointless arguement maybe, but one you don't know anything about. Forren wasn't Tk, Forren was Merian and Forren could 2 hit me.

There were stat changes that did effect int. It made stats less valuable the higher they were. Merian aqua's were able to get some sickening damage on their staffs.

But when they nerfed int they didn't buff any of those races con to make up for it. So, they got screwed there as well.

Forren used to be TK, yes. I remember that he gave Nezha his dagger when Nezha went TK, and I also remember him being human in most of his logs, he was a changeling.

Yeah, Forren was human most of the time. As a melder and a good combatant, he was targeted often in groups and needed to tank.

Woa nelly, you didn't read carefully.

He WAS a TK while he bashed to demi (at least I'm pretty sure), and he WAS a merian. I know he was human because he posted that he was human, and not merian, because merian was too squishy. He often glamoured as one which is what lead to me asking him about it.

There are also logs of you whiffing against stance 10 times in a row with ppk, so I'm not sure your combat experience of being two shotted is great to judge off of.



Well I knew high end stats were scaled down at some point, but when was that? Was it when they did stat buff weighting or before that?

As far as I can recall, and I basically started the game as a pre speed nerf mugwump geo with the champ staff, staff hasn't been super scary until ceren showed up and piled on the damage buffs.

edit: Ninja'd by Casilu.

30 seconds would be a ninja. You were at 17 minutes. You got a whole parade.

I still think that people that constantly lord over races and analyze them in detail just because they think one is "better" than the other are powergaming and min/maxing. Both of which are pretty stupid.

Not to them it's not. It's part of the game. On the other hand, spending 3 hours in a manse RPing a family gathering sounds great to me, but would bore the hell out of some people. We are free to take what pleasure we can from the game in what ways suit us best.