Just immolate everyone. Don't hold back, just do it. Will the Ravenwood's power drop dramatically? No, it won't drop at all. Not even that of the weaker orgs, I'd argue. I don't buy the xp loss argument when there's such an easy way out of it that only costs a few hundred power in this, as you put it so often: game.

Nope. The power laws are there to help address something that is not the players' problem at all-- the fact that the Administration has decided there should be a disincentive to immolating people. Well, guess what? It worked. It is a disincentive. People do not get immolated in Glom much at all any more, so it's working as a disincentive. It's certainly not slowing down the drive to gain power because it's rarely being used at all.

The problem is, as I said, not the laws themselves. It is that this entire mechanic has such a heavy disincentive that organizations have to make power laws to protect themselves. 10 immolations is 1000 power gone, and as Dylara said, it's pretty easy for lower levels to drop multiple times in a day. She is also one of those people who, prior to this, would have had people rushing to the Undervault to look for her corpse... and now is praying. Every time.

I don't see the power laws changing at all. They are already about as fair as can be expected given the cost. Glomdoring already waives half of it, and only requests that 50p be returned. Even that is pretty hefty, though, and starts getting into the "it's not worth it" category. (Well, more than "starts getting into"... it's very firmly crossed that line)

Getting experience at lower levels is easier if you know what you're doing, sure. However, you're still frail, you're still very likely to die if you take a wrong turn into an aggressive mob, and there is essentially 0 chance of someone coming to help you after you've died at this point, excepting an alternate body-skill such as Celest has. Further, Lusternia is still professing to want new players (that is, players who don't know what they're doing, but will put in time, learn, enjoy, and stay). This entire concept as it stands is antithetical to that, far more so than it was when immolations were free. It is not as if it protects them from death. It does, however, save time, a bit of frustration (it's not like there isn't frustration when praying multiple times), and there's no real reason not to go for it.

Higher levels have alternatives that they can easily attain. Immolation is rarely ever needed on someone who is actually working on / closing in on Demigod, just because they actually have access to these other skills. Conglutination, org rez options, vitae, and so on. Low levels are the ones who have primarily had the pleasure of being immolated, and they're the ones being left out in the cold at the moment.

Hmm. Alternatively, it could be made 1p per level for immolation. Immolating a Demigod/Ascendant is the maximum of 100p, whereas immolating a level 20 is 20p, which (again) would make it easier on those who need it without really reducing it much for the higher-ends.

When you're balancing a game around demigod omnitrans, you probably don't want any more roadblocks to get to that state than are found necessary. It's easy to say "toughen up", or whatever else, when you're already at the top of the hill, but it isn't sensical to do so. From a meta perspective, you want more demigods in the game, if your goal is more conflict.

Whether or not it is "easy to get to demigod/levels back" is not only relative to the individual, both the player and their character, but it is also largely irrelevant here. Like most things, we're dealing with marginal/relative inconvenience as compared to the next best alternative. Death penalties in general are largely becoming a relic in MMOs in general. Yes, there are some people who like them, or enjoy inflicting them on others, but by and large games seem to lean towards "fun" over "overcoming frustration".

There is certainly no need what so ever for this sort of disincentive that primarly hits newer players. Even more so when so many people have already climbed into the upper echelons with better saftey nets/taking advantage of now changed mechanics. There's no point in throwing rocks down from the top of the hill at people still on the slope.

...and though it is irrelevant to the argument, I find it fairly distasteful for people who had meaningfully easier slope to climb to do so.

Xenthos is spot on here.

Someone who rode an astral bash train as far as you did has no business telling anyone what xp costs really are- 'cause you bypassed most of it, or for that matter, telling anyone to harden up.

Bitter much?

As for the power cost, gee willickers. Maybe essence should automatically be worth 5 power, and conglute should be right under Teleport in Planar.

Bitter much?

As for the power cost, gee willickers. Maybe essence should automatically be worth 5 power, and conglute should be right under Teleport in Planar.

Actually, no, since I don't even play any more in any real sense. and my target alias is still set on something from like two weeks ago. I was just pointing out the hypocricy. My friend was just reading over my shoulder, and asked, "don't you have anything better to do than argue with someone that you're telling me is a hypocritical brat?"

And I said, good point. So we're going to Chipolte.

Make it so the immolation costs the immolated person, not the person who immolated. They have to return it or be blocked (both from drawing and being immolated). Frankly, the only reason anyone does it the other way is how the powerlogs show the power usage.

Make it so the immolation costs the immolated person, not the person who immolated. They have to return it or be blocked (both from drawing and being immolated). Frankly, the only reason anyone does it the other way is how the powerlogs show the power usage.

I support!

No, I already transed planar .

The simpler option is to make unlimited power for everyone .

I laugh. You moaned and whined about how hard it was to get Demi, and once you get it you just play King of the Hill and make certain that no one else can do it, or you complain at the thought of making it easier, because then well all that effort would have been a waste.

Also, for the record, I've been playing for 4 years(only 2 on Kialkarkea. Or three. I forget which), and I've never made it over level 70. Why? Because my connection regularly cuts out, leaving me to get bashed. At level 67(woo) I can't hunt the good places solo, even as a monk, which means that, no, I can't get back the XP from praying in a half hour. If I try and do that, guess what? POOF, I die again. Sure, Vitae is nice when I can afford it, but in general, my money is going out in other directions(Family, Newbies, supplies, ectec). So? I either don't hunt, I hunt and Die, or I group-hunt and recieve negligable XP while boredly mashing on my Autokata macro.

For the record though, I don't even really care. I barely play anymore, and when I do, I barely interact with anyone.

Actually, no, since I don't even play any more in any real sense. and my target alias is still set on something from like two weeks ago. I was just pointing out the hypocricy. My friend was just reading over my shoulder, and asked, "don't you have anything better to do than argue with someone that you're telling me is a hypocritical brat?"

And I said, good point. So we're going to Chipolte.

I laugh. You moaned and whined about how hard it was to get Demi, and once you get it you just play King of the Hill and make certain that no one else can do it, or you complain at the thought of making it easier, because then well all that effort would have been a waste.

Also, for the record, I've been playing for 4 years(only 2 on Kialkarkea. Or three. I forget which), and I've never made it over level 70. Why? Because my connection regularly cuts out, leaving me to get bashed. At level 67(woo) I can't hunt the good places solo, even as a monk, which means that, no, I can't get back the XP from praying in a half hour. If I try and do that, guess what? POOF, I die again. Sure, Vitae is nice when I can afford it, but in general, my money is going out in other directions(Family, Newbies, supplies, ectec). So? I either don't hunt, I hunt and Die, or I group-hunt and recieve negligable XP while boredly mashing on my Autokata macro.

For the record though, I don't even really care. I barely play anymore, and when I do, I barely interact with anyone.