Hero Mafia

by Kiradawea

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Furien2009-07-28 19:59:38
Gods, you people are at it again.

COP NOT REPORTER

Also with a PM I just got from the mod, give me a few hours to clarify something. After that I may be able to give you the go-ahead for lynching me.
Unknown2009-07-28 20:53:45
QUOTE (Salvation @ Jul 28 2009, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the reason people want you to post more is so that you -do- make mistakes. That is, if scum never posts, scum's harder to find. AFRAID OF MAKING MISTAKES? Hrm, hrm, hrm.


Not afraid of making mistakes, seeing as I'll probably do more as the game goes on. Just my preferred method of working, in general, is being a quiet person observing the rest of world.

Curious, but why'd Zynna (I think it was) post about the reporter when Furien did say that he was a cop? Unless they didn't notice him saying that? Or are you not believing what his roleclaim is?
Shaddus2009-07-28 20:59:52
QUOTE (Furien @ Jul 28 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gods, you people are at it again.

COP NOT REPORTER

Also with a PM I just got from the mod, give me a few hours to clarify something. After that I may be able to give you the go-ahead for lynching me.

Wait, what?
Ilyarin2009-07-28 21:02:45
I assume that's implying some sort of anti-lynchable power.
Zynna2009-07-28 21:07:30
QUOTE (Sarvasti @ Jul 28 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Curious, but why'd Zynna (I think it was) post about the reporter when Furien did say that he was a cop? Unless they didn't notice him saying that? Or are you not believing what his roleclaim is?


I was confused about his claimed power, so I decided to do more reading up on information roles, when I came across it. On first read, I thought he was saying he could investigate people and we would only learn if the person was scum or not by whether he died (I missed the original 'and' in his statement). That got me confused because I wondered what would happen if he targetted a town (so should be safe), but mafia targetted him. Would we then wrongly accuse a townie the next day? Or, in reverse, what if he targetted a scum (so should die), but the doctor targetted him -- would we then think that a mafia was town? It was making my brain hurt, so I look to see if I could find any clarity. That's when I ran across the alternate reporter role, which does seem to fit pretty well with what he's told us.

He's said he's a cop, but he's a cop plus. Regular cops cannot publish pamphlets, so it does sound like he is a cop/reporter. His denying the reporter part gives me pause as well.

It's true though that Kira could have changed the role into a pro-town one, although Furien's extreme defensiveness give off scum vibes to me. But I'm still on the fence over whether to go after him.

I still think we don't have enough active content, so we may be better off letting that one simmer for awhile, while we focus on the others in the group who are flying under the radar at the moment.
Llandros2009-07-28 21:07:53
Unvote

If he is claiming to be an unlynchable investigator i have to call BS. Also, you never did state your name.
Unknown2009-07-28 21:10:53
QUOTE (Zynna @ Jul 28 2009, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Ah, thank you for clarifying. I don't think he's claiming to be unlynchable atleast that's how it seems to me. maybe he's trying to find a way where we can "safely" lynch him? >.> Just an idea.
Daganev2009-07-28 21:30:57
I'm not sure how accurate it is, but generally Shiri calls people scum if they slowly reveal role info instead of giving an entire role-claim at once. Unless there is good reason to hide certain info.


Unfortunately, we have often lynched people who turned out to be town because they just decided to be evasive while claiming for no real apparent reason.

It might be a good idea to put this on a back burner, and focus on Rika or other lurkers instead. Another possible lurker is Ilyarin who keeps posting about the game being slow, or people not posting, or complaining about lurkers, but I can't remember any actual content that he has stated.
Daganev2009-07-28 21:32:29
Oh and Ruiku are you caught up yet?
Unknown2009-07-28 21:43:22
I thought Xikue replaced ruiku?
Daganev2009-07-28 21:45:43
Oh ok.

Cause Ruiku has 1 post now, when he didn't before, so I thought he replaced someone. Sorry bout the confusion.. looking for more lurkers then
Daganev2009-07-28 21:55:07
QUOTE (Solanis @ Jul 25 2009, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, mine's from a wacked up genre.

Umm. Not finding anyone suspicious, not buying the Daganev fishing thing.


QUOTE (Solanis @ Jul 26 2009, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi! I'm still in, just not sure what to say.



"After Tristar and Maab have dropped her off among the others..." does that imply that she is unlike the others?


QUOTE (Solanis @ Jul 26 2009, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That last phrase basically hints that there are some people who weren't brought by those two creatures, so most likely anti-town. Doesn't say how many, or that there are.


QUOTE (Solanis @ Jul 27 2009, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Yuki Nagato (from Haruhi?) could be any role at all. Why nameclaim?


QUOTE (Solanis @ Jul 28 2009, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still, the pamphlet will either be there or not be there tomorrow morning, so Ilyarin's thing won't affect that.



Ok, here are all of Solanis's posts so far.

Furien2009-07-28 21:56:33
Here we go again.

If I was going to say I can't be lynched, I would say I can't be lynched, that was saying 'Hang on, maybe my power has a difficult part' and guess what, it does.

It's now confirmed that I can either:
1. Induct someone and send a pamphlet to my group.
2. Send a pamphlet to all of you without inducting someone.

So if you're really desperate for a safe lynch, go ahead, because if I find someone who is scum I'll be dead and you'll have no idea who it is.
Ilyarin2009-07-28 21:57:56
"Induct someone" sounds curiously like a cult..?
Furien2009-07-28 21:59:44
QUOTE (Ilyarin @ Jul 28 2009, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Induct someone" sounds curiously like a cult..?


You know, I was waiting for someone to say that, and it pretty much is, just pro-town.

Admittedly you can never really take my word for that or anyone that decides to help me, so feel free and lynch a townie, my power seems pretty useless now.
Daganev2009-07-28 22:04:34

QUOTE (rika @ Jul 24 2009, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm with Xavius on this one. Bad logic. Vote: Daganev

As for the 3 unknowns, it could just be that Casilu's power wasn't strong enough to discern their true alignment. Put it this way, we have a game of 22 and already we know there are 5 "antagonists". We have 3 unknowns, so that is potentially 8 people we need to get rid of. Too many, in my opinion.


QUOTE (rika @ Jul 25 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thing is.. nothing is really happening. My vote stays on Daganev for early aggressiveness.


QUOTE (rika @ Jul 25 2009, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So yeah... what now?


QUOTE (rika @ Jul 27 2009, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yay, I'm back.

So, in the post in which I voted for Daganev, I said that I agree with Xavius. That means that my reason for voting is the same as his, for those of you don't understand what the word "agree" means in this context.

Here's another example:



This is an example of Daganev giving the reason for voting for me as agreeing with Zynna. That means he is voting for the same reasons as Zynna.


QUOTE (rika @ Jul 27 2009, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why did you just nameclaim???

As a side note, I feel good because I know where that is from. smile.gif



QUOTE (rika @ Jul 28 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Xavius made a good point about you, which I agreed with (there's that word again). I voted for you based on that. If I wanted to bandwagon, I would have had a much easier time on other targets (same reason why I don't believe Llandros to have been rolefishing as you accused him of).

@Silferras: No, I have nothing to comment about what had gone on. Ie. Furien claiming. Anything I would have said had already been said. What's going to stop people from jumping on me for just repeating what other people have said? Then the attention went back to me. I then made my post about that, because I could actually contribute to the discussion.




Here are all of Rika's posts, to be honest, Rika looks a bit less lurky than Solanis. However, Rika still hasn't really commented on new information presented.


Doing, Aysidra and TIMDN next (as the people with the fewest post counts)
Llandros2009-07-28 22:05:04
I've never heard of a pro townie cult before, could you elaborate on that?
Furien2009-07-28 22:08:08
QUOTE (Llandros @ Jul 28 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never heard of a pro townie cult before, could you elaborate on that?


That's essentially what I've been saying the entire time without trying to put the 'cult' label on it.

1. Each night I can induct someone into my order, the Order of the White Rose (this underground group that fought the Nazis in Germany).
2. I can send them all pamphlets with a message from me at night.
3. If I choose not to induct someone, I can send an 'anonymous message' (gg) to the game at the next morning.
4. When the game is done I just go back to Germany, having won with the town and not being able to take anyone here with me.
5. If I induct a scum, they kill me.

That's pretty much how it works.
Daganev2009-07-28 22:09:09
QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 24 2009, 07:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello, everyone!

QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 24 2009, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
VOTE OTHERO for not being nice and gentle

QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 26 2009, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If people want other people to post then I think it'd be best to actually post something worth discussing other than blind accusations, gut-feelings or whatever. confused.gif

QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 26 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but you're already branding people as lurkers. :/ Not everyone feels the need to post every time they visit.

QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 28 2009, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Point taken. I'm curious, though - is that variant of the reporter the only thing that fits Furien? And, seeing as that's the variant, what is it that the 'original' reporter can do?


QUOTE (thisismydisplayname @ Jul 28 2009, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
UNVOTE
Goodness, I was away for two days and I have to read 9 pages already.

I think we should let Furien live today, because if he is lying then it'll be very obvious once we reach night :/



Here are all of TIMDN's posts.
Llandros2009-07-28 22:09:42
So in other words your a cult leader and not a cop?