Hero Mafia

by Kiradawea

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Daganev2009-07-28 23:20:37
QUOTE (Solanis @ Jul 28 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
An attempt to stop lurking. I believe Furien, and the role can become useful as long as we don't get messed up with nightkills and stuff (which probably will happen but anyway).



This post's reasoning sucks.

1. Scum ALREADY KNOW who they are, they don't gain from the information that "this person" is town.
2. There is a good chance Furien might just target scum night one and die. I don't understand how that is a reason why we should lynch Furien. Why waste a lynch? No lynch would be better.
3. "Townies who can't play right": Well. If we lose them to mafia, we're not losing the skilled town players right? The people in Furien's group wouldn't out themselves unless Furien died anyway.

Vote Othero


These are good points.

And I have some damning?? counter arguments.

1. The Mafia know who they are, but SKs don't.
2. agreed.
3. Again, this argument makes sense if you think of scum as "SK" and not "mafia"

Meaning, Othero has SK on his brain for some reason...

I'll remove my vote from solanis when he actually contributes for more than just 5 minutes smile.gif
I'd like to be able to feel confident when I vote for the next person, and not keep going back and forth.
Unknown2009-07-28 23:31:18
I have a SK on the brain because we have three extra people and we should assume one of them is a SK.
Daganev2009-07-28 23:32:46
QUOTE (Othero @ Jul 28 2009, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a SK on the brain because we have three extra people and we should assume one of them is a SK.


Does that mean that Solanis is purposefully trying to make us think that the SK isn't important?
Daganev2009-07-28 23:33:25
Ok, I see 9 players reading this thread right now... I expect comments from 9 different people!
Unknown2009-07-28 23:33:34
I don't know SK's normal strategies, do they want to kill townies or scum first?

Scum help achieve SK win condition but have a chance to kill the SK...
Dugan2009-07-28 23:36:30
QUOTE (Othero @ Jul 28 2009, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a SK on the brain because we have three extra people and we should assume one of them is a SK.


You know that old cliche joke about the word assume, so I don't think I need to post it. I would say, never try to guess the mod. It is easy to speculate what roles they could be ... joker, SK, survivor ... but why spend day 1 worrying about it.
Unknown2009-07-28 23:37:10
QUOTE (daganev @ Jul 28 2009, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does that mean that Solanis is purposefully trying to make us think that the SK isn't important?


Hmm, It is a possibility. It isn't like I know if he is or isn't the SK. But I think for now, with such little info in the game, we should assume we do have a SK and act like we do. The less information given to him the better. Now, listening to what Furien said about the role I think the role would be best used to induct people instead of a game wide pamphlet. The less info handed to a SK or even mafia, though the info about someone being town or not town is most likely alread known by mafia, the better.
Ayisdra2009-07-28 23:45:47
the roles themselves don't really do much for mafia. Its more about powers that people have that should be a focus. Who has the most useful power to the town.
Daganev2009-07-28 23:49:36
I just saw Illyarin and AlergictoSabres reading without leaving behind comments:

Daganev2009-07-28 23:52:42
QUOTE (Ayisdra @ Jul 28 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the roles themselves don't really do much for mafia. Its more about powers that people have that should be a focus. Who has the most useful power to the town.


Sorry, maybe I'm just a bit tired or low on sugar, but can you repeat what you are trying to say here?
Ayisdra2009-07-28 23:54:52
QUOTE (daganev @ Jul 28 2009, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, maybe I'm just a bit tired or low on sugar, but can you repeat what you are trying to say here?


instead of focusing on who is what, we should be worried about their powers (that is the townies, not the SK people)
Unknown2009-07-28 23:58:07
Solanis hasn't given much in the way of scummy vibes.
Rika speak up.
Dugan2009-07-28 23:59:05
Rika generally lurks ... its what she does.
Daganev2009-07-29 00:02:58
QUOTE (Ayisdra @ Jul 28 2009, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
instead of focusing on who is what, we should be worried about their powers (that is the townies, not the SK people)


Sorry, I'm still not understanding.

Are you saying:

1. Instead of focusing on who is Mafia or who is Cult or who is SK, we should instead be worried about who is roleblocker, who is cop, who is doctor?
Or

2. Instead of focusing on what somebody's name is, we should focus on the power?

or

3. Instead of guessing if we are up against SK, cults, jesters etc, we should be looking to see who has roles that harm us?

or

4. Some combination of the first 3?
Daganev2009-07-29 00:04:16
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Jul 28 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rika generally lurks ... its what she does.


I don't find that Rika lurks, I find that Rika logs in when most people are asleep, and so has little back and forth with people. But usually, she has more to say than short 1 liners. (sort of like she had plenty to say in her second/first post)
Dugan2009-07-29 00:05:25
Dag .... please, for the love of all that is good .... go get some chocolate ... boost your sugar and get focused.
Ayisdra2009-07-29 00:06:32
QUOTE (daganev @ Jul 28 2009, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I'm still not understanding.

Are you saying:

1. Instead of focusing on who is Mafia or who is Cult or who is SK, we should instead be worried about who is roleblocker, who is cop, who is doctor?
Or

2. Instead of focusing on what somebody's name is, we should focus on the power?

or

3. Instead of guessing if we are up against SK, cults, jesters etc, we should be looking to see who has roles that harm us?

or

4. Some combination of the first 3?


Mostly three. and a a little bit of two.
Aerotan2009-07-29 00:06:55
QUOTE (Ayisdra @ Jul 28 2009, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
instead of focusing on who is what, we should be worried about their powers (that is the townies, not the SK people)

I'd say that we rather should be worried about who is what. In a way that does not force crucial roles (like the cops, doctors, or watchers/trackers) to reveal themselves.

I'm thinking, though, that in the Clark Kent/Evil reporter argument, it should be noted that, unless I'm far, FAR off on Casilu's role, the role itself is an antagonist in the source, but she certainly does not seem to be in this game.
Ayisdra2009-07-29 00:07:27
The name doesn't really do us any good on day one. Knowing the power and how harmful to us is really want we should try to get out of people on day one, to me.
Daganev2009-07-29 00:08:29
sad.gif I'm trying to track down the lurkers...

Here is the current group of people viewing

daganev, Dugan Diluculo, Othero, Ayisdra, AllergictoSabres, Xikue, Furien, Solanis

I saw Ilayrian viewing about 20 minutes ago.

Ayisdra, generally, we don't want to reveal who has what power roll, that helps the scum more than it helps us. The only time we want to reveal anything is when someone with an information role, like a cop, actually finds scum. That's why I'm trying to figure out what you are suggesting.