Zynna2009-08-03 13:02:05
To me it seems that Furien has posted whatever it takes in the moment to try and avoid a lynch, but he hasn't really kept a consistent position on anything: not on his role, not on his revealing of names. And his insistence that someone is town even though he knows the other person didn't receive the pamphlet is confusing as well. (It makes sense for him to say he thinks it means it, because he was vulnerable while it went out the door, but to make bold claims that he knows '100%' Xavius is town' when he can't be, really hurts us. Because it may let our guard down thinking there is a trusted ally, when in fact there isn't.)
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Furien isn't trustworthy, he's acting as scum do - with lies, misleading statements, and wishy washy comments.
Couple that with the fact that he is the only one who would know who the others are, and they can't communicate with each other, it's not very useful to us and this can pose a much bigger danger.
I think we should lynch Furien and be done with it. I don't see this issue being resolved easily in another way.
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QUOTE (Furien @ Aug 2 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, actually, let's say 95% town, since I die by recruiting 'scum'. We have 3 independents and apparently there's no SK as Casilu says, so Xavius isn't ENTIRELY out of the question, but he's probably a safe bet.
Furien isn't trustworthy, he's acting as scum do - with lies, misleading statements, and wishy washy comments.
Couple that with the fact that he is the only one who would know who the others are, and they can't communicate with each other, it's not very useful to us and this can pose a much bigger danger.
I think we should lynch Furien and be done with it. I don't see this issue being resolved easily in another way.
Zynna2009-08-03 13:11:40
QUOTE (Xavius @ Aug 3 2009, 02:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He has told the story in the same, consistent fashion two or three times now. I know language isn't your strong point, Dag, but he's even using basically the same words.
QUOTE (Sarvasti @ Aug 3 2009, 03:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
:\\ I don't see how you're getting that he's changing his story Dag.
Dag explained it here:
QUOTE (daganev @ Aug 2 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's hard to say when a cult gets dangerous becuase it depends on how many non-cult members die each night. We also don't know what the cult members count as when the leader dies. Does everyone turn back to town, or are they now thier own win condition?
Furien, it always seems to be a constant back and forth with you here.
Lyching me will be your biggest mistake ever, I mean, I'm a cop, I mean I'm a pro-town cult.
I didn't out who I target, it could of been any of 4 people, I mean, I target xavius who was only 1 of two people.
then xavius does the same thing. "I wasn't targeted, furien's guilty, I mean, I think furien's is innocent"
Then its, xavius is 100% town, I mean, I got roleblocked, I mean I don't know what xavius is.
Making a mistake one time is one thing, but to have this constant back and forth every day, over every topic is just enough allready.
How anyone can believe that you are actually pro-town at this point is just beyond me.
Furien, it always seems to be a constant back and forth with you here.
Lyching me will be your biggest mistake ever, I mean, I'm a cop, I mean I'm a pro-town cult.
I didn't out who I target, it could of been any of 4 people, I mean, I target xavius who was only 1 of two people.
then xavius does the same thing. "I wasn't targeted, furien's guilty, I mean, I think furien's is innocent"
Then its, xavius is 100% town, I mean, I got roleblocked, I mean I don't know what xavius is.
Making a mistake one time is one thing, but to have this constant back and forth every day, over every topic is just enough allready.
How anyone can believe that you are actually pro-town at this point is just beyond me.
And FOS on Xavius/Sarvasti for not seeing the flipflopping/shadiness!
Daganev2009-08-03 16:16:21
QUOTE (Sarvasti @ Aug 3 2009, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
:\\ I don't see how you're getting that he's changing his story Dag.
What I mean here, is that any simple application of logic will show someone that he didn't get roleblocked.
I can't conceive of any possible scenario where what he said was true, and he got roleblocked.
This means that furien is just trying to confuse us with extra facts that didn't happen.
I think the more likely case is that furien didn't target Xavius at all, and we have a growing cult on our hands.
Llandros2009-08-03 16:42:13
This whole Furien thing is bothering me, along with other things as well. I'm not sure Furien isn't town but I'd be more than happy to see him lynched if we could just move on to something else.
The problem with that being that there were 2 people killed last night and possibly a 3rd one that was blocked. Losing three more townies tonight could be disasterous. Furien is too fishy to ignore and too distracting to let off.
While i'm loathe to suggest it, I say we day kill him and move on.
The problem with that being that there were 2 people killed last night and possibly a 3rd one that was blocked. Losing three more townies tonight could be disasterous. Furien is too fishy to ignore and too distracting to let off.
While i'm loathe to suggest it, I say we day kill him and move on.
Ilyarin2009-08-03 16:49:10
Do we have a day kill? Solanis had one -- would there really be two?
Unknown2009-08-03 16:54:46
The other game I'm in has multiple day kill abilities, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Unknown2009-08-03 16:57:00
Even if we don't have a day kill I would say we do best to lynch him.
Llandros2009-08-03 17:57:33
QUOTE (Othero @ Aug 3 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even if we don't have a day kill I would say we do best to lynch him.
I don't agree with this. A cultist is unlikely to kill people at night and convert them. This leaves us with 2-3 people dead tomorrow.
Daganev2009-08-03 18:10:56
QUOTE (Llandros @ Aug 3 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't agree with this. A cultist is unlikely to kill people at night and convert them. This leaves us with 2-3 people dead tomorrow.
When there is a cultist, when they convert somebody is it as if they are dead to the town. (because eventually they need to be killed off for the town to win)
So while they may be walking around, they are now scum and hurt us.
Llandros2009-08-03 18:35:06
Fine, VOTE FURIEN
Shaddus2009-08-03 18:38:38
Furien, I would advise stopping this hiding things and come clean.
Xavius2009-08-03 18:48:26
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Aug 3 2009, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Furien, I would advise stopping this hiding things and come clean.
Llandros2009-08-03 18:50:37
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Aug 3 2009, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Furien, I would advise stopping this hiding things and come clean.
I think if he comes clean just one more time he'll start claiming he's the mod or something. There isn't much left he hasn't already claimed yet is there?
Shaddus2009-08-03 18:52:54
QUOTE (Llandros @ Aug 3 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think if he comes clean just one more time he'll start claiming he's the mod or something. There isn't much left he hasn't already claimed yet is there?
Yeah, you're probably right. Screw it.
VOTE:FURIEN.
Worse than being scummy is being bad at being scummy.
Unknown2009-08-03 19:01:00
I think that puts us at 8 on Furien.
Shaddus2009-08-03 19:02:46
What do we need?
Unknown2009-08-03 19:03:30
ten
Daganev2009-08-03 19:05:38
Since people were confused last time about the vote count and I see our lovely mod, perhaps we can get an official vote count?
Kiradawea2009-08-03 19:15:23
In all you are, be full and whole
not in pieces partway done.
Vote Count
AtS: 1 (Rika)
Furien: 8 (Zynna, Dugan, Othero, Daganev, Salvation, Xikue, Llandros, Shaddus)
Daganev: 1 (Furien)
With 19 around, it's 10 to lynch.
not in pieces partway done.
Vote Count
AtS: 1 (Rika)
Furien: 8 (Zynna, Dugan, Othero, Daganev, Salvation, Xikue, Llandros, Shaddus)
Daganev: 1 (Furien)
With 19 around, it's 10 to lynch.
Unknown2009-08-03 19:18:38
>.> So in a game with 20 people only half are even voting.
