Huh? I haven't been defending Llandros...I don't have a feel for him yet one way or the other.

Also, if i could confirm myself, i certainly wouldn't do it on day one. Scum aren't going to night kill people they think they could swing into getting lynched. Confirmed townies and power roles are at the top of their list.

Also, i've been waiting to see what other people had to say about my comments. I can honestly say i've never put anything down into my mafia notebook in the first few hours of a game before. All very interesting....

btw, going back to the "creatures" = "trickster divine" argument. It's possible, however the trickster divine are refered to as "these' and the creatures are referred to as "those". It's possible that it's just trying to be poetic or something, but it seems odd that a new term, that of "creature" would be mentioned if it didn't refer to anything special.

I think you people are putting entirely too much thought into this.

"What is it that you can see that I cannot? Tell me!

I see a bright hope for the future that resides in each and every human being.

I see only despair."
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete

Vote count:

Othero: 2 (Llandros, TIMDN)
Furien: 1 (AtS)
Shaddus: 1 (Dugan)
Llandros: 2 (Daganev, Othero)
Daganev: 3 (Xavius, Furien, Rika)
Xavius: 1 (Zynna)

With 22 present, it's 12 to lynch.

*cough* furien voting twice.. *cough*

And Llandros only has one vote though two people voted for him.

Why, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Oh, and you have 1 next to llandros when it should be 2?

And I'm going to try to make some room for the 12 people who aren't voting to make some comments.

Random.org says VOTE SYNL

Well, not Synl. The number Synl was.

While we are not tarot cards, there had to be some reason why she had that picking system...perhaps the card represents the role (and its powers).

Shaddus, why would you random vote now?

Actually I take back what I said...

I went and checked the "post counts" and it looks like there's only 6 people playing the game right now. So I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that nobody who's been talking at this point is actually scum.

I'm going to believe casilu, since I have no reason not to, and trust that Llandros is just a mafia puppy sometimes.
unvote

However, I'd like to hear everybody elses opinion of if they think Xavius was correct with my logic being bad, or if they think it had plausibility. (I'm hoping Casilu's gut here is correct and I was infact wrong.)

We have what to talk about, and theres no reason why the 12 people who havn't voted yet wouldn't have an opinion.

There is clearly a connection between the role and the card. The power, not so much.

I mean, that would make me a jester or something if that was true.

No offense, man, but that's retarded. Hell, I didn't see the game open until it was on the third page. Give it a day or two.

It's retarded, but spending 6 pages on just 3 targets with 6 people actively talking out of 22 is even more retarded.

You people always start without me, goddammit. now I have to read through 6 pages of crap, so just hush for a bit so I can catch up

MAJOR ISSUES:

Daganev's accusations weren't very sound, but they were there, and I figure on the first day you need accusations that are just 'there' to work with. To argue and whatnot. Which seems to be happening.

Xavius seems so set against Daganev, it makes me WONDER what he is planning (moreso than Daganev's accusations).

Then there's Shaddus instantly agreeing with Xavius a few pages ago. I may not be a veteran of a hundred games, but instantly agreeing can't be too good, can it?

Vote: Dugan

Come on, a bad feeling is at least as bad logic as fishing for information (well, it's not really logic at all, more a feeling, but you get the point.)

People I am suspicious of:

Daganev, Dugan and Llandros. Daganev is like my Shaddus, I always get scum vibes from him, even when I've been teamed up with him, so I won't vote fir him unless he does something that seems legitimately scummy. Dugan, mostly because of his vote for Shaddus before Shaddus had even posted, although I get the same from Daganev as stated above, so just a FoS for now. Right now though, Llandros is who I will vote for, because that 'I'm totally a townie, guys' claim just sends off all kinds of alarms, as does the fishing.

VOTE: Llandros

Now, my posting will be a bit sporadic, I have had trouble with the forums recently, and also the weekend is coming and I will be out of the house both days.

Hey, I fell sleep mid-day so sometimes there's just external factors people aren't talking.

No point in random votes anymore, not when there has been discussion and finger pointing.

Glad you did that wisdom seeking thing Casilu, and I really hope it's accurate, it gives us something small to work off of.