Sap

by Zynna

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Zynna2009-08-07 18:42:53
Once I get sapped in a druid's demesne, I can't do anything. I can't cleanse because I'm either stunned or sapped and then I'm dead. With the brief stun immunity, I'm still sapped so then can't do anything then either.

Basically my log ends up looking something like this and in the meantime my protection scroll gets dissolved, I'm attacked, what have you.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, as it seemed that once sapped I can no longer enter any commands at all.

But any advice would be much appreciated.

Celina's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Celina raises her arms and hums deeply the note of the forest, which breaks into a
discordant tone. Silhouettes of twisted trees darken in the air, their long shadows
casting a forbidding doom across the ground.
LOCATION TAINTED FORESTED.
5782h, 4832m, 6011e, 9p sSixb<>-aquacast forceflood
You must regain equilibrium first.
5782h, 4832m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-aquacast forceflood
Celina presses her hand upon the forest floor and sings softly to herself. Slowly, a rowan
sapling pushes upwards out of the soil and sways gently towards her.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
You try to meld into the terrain, but the strength of a nearby tree prevents you.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-aquacast forceflood
You try to meld into the terrain, but the strength of a nearby tree prevents you.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-aquacast forceflood
You try to meld into the terrain, but the strength of a nearby tree prevents you.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Inagin razes Celina's speed defence with a rapier of the Holy Flame.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Celina takes a drink from a turquoise vial.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
With a focused look, Inagin strikes at Celina with a rapier of the Holy Flame. Inagin
strikes her forehead, which turns her face into a bloody mask.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-aquacast forceflood
You try to meld into the terrain, but the strength of a nearby tree prevents you.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Celina eats a yarrow sprig.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Celina takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on her head.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Celina kneels down and touches her forehead to the earth, then whispers softly. A deep
emerald glow ripples across the ground and Celina's eyes momentarily flash with a matching
emerald light.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-aquacast forceflood
You try to meld into the terrain, but the strength of a nearby tree prevents you.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Flying insects suddenly swarm you, covering you with tiny, painful stings.
Your enhanced movement repels paralysis.
Flying insects suddenly swarm Inagin, covering him with tiny, painful stings.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Celina dissolves the shimmering field around Inagin.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-chop sapling with axe
You must regain equilibrium first.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Inagin enters your demesne.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-chop sapling with axe
You must regain equilibrium first.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixb<>-
Celina raises her cudgel upwards, saluting the trees.
Branches swoop down and lift you up into the trees.
In the trees above a leveling of the trail.
The shadowy outline of a twisted forest casts a dark gloom here. Here the ground is
relatively even, although to the southeast begins a sharp descent towards the ocean, where
the silhouette of a massive olive tree contrasts delightfully with the breathtaking view
of the sea beyond. Further down the trail, glittering specks of cosmic energy swirl almost
playfully around the pure white stone of statues that stand like sentinels on either side
of the track, leading to meadows of swaying grass that adjoin the sandy shoreline. To the
northeast, recessed into the earth itself, can be found a set of pristine white marble
stairs. As they climb towards the mountain peak, each step is slightly broader than the
last, presenting a vision pleasing to the eye and expanding upwards to usher travelers
towards the top.
You see exits leading northeast and southeast.
Branches swoop down and lift Celina up into the trees.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-chop sapling with axe
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
Celina takes a long drag off her pipe.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5782h, 4907m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5782h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
A vine drops down from a tree limb and lashes out at you, cutting you deeply with its tiny
thorns.
A murder of crows descends from the sky with black wings spread and eyes glowing a
malevolent red, diving at you in a filthy flurry of malevolent talons and beaks.
Hundreds of bloated spiders crawl up your legs, their painful stings raising red welts on
your skin.
A coldness seeps deep into the marrow of your bones.
A bolt of whitest lightning streaks down from the heavens and engulfs you. You writhe and
shake in noiseless agony as the pure electricity ripples over your body.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
You are no longer stunned and have a brief stun immunity.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
You must regain equilibrium first.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
With a grim smile, Celina touches the trees and sap courses out in a thick syrup that
lunges at you, coating you in the viscid liquid.
ql
SAPPED SAPPED SAPPED - CLE
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
You are no longer immune from stun.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-ne
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
You cough uncontrollably, as you hack up some black phlegm.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
You must regain balance first.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-

The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
You cough uncontrollably, as you hack up some black phlegm.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
You must regain balance first.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
Flying insects suddenly swarm you, covering you with tiny, painful stings.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Celina.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5256h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
You bleed 100 health.
5156h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5156h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
5156h, 4982m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597

....more of the same....

A stream of wooden splinters shoots in from the up, peppering you with a painful barrage
of tiny cuts.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
You must regain balance first.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
Flying insects suddenly swarm you, covering you with tiny, painful stings.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
You must regain balance first.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3019h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSixbp<>-
You cough uncontrollably, as you hack up some black phlegm.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
3272h, 5207m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-rub 9597

A bolt of whitest lightning streaks down from the heavens and engulfs you. You writhe and
shake in noiseless agony as the pure electricity ripples over your body.
A bolt of lighting streaks down from the heavens and strikes Korimbu, who writhes terribly
as the energy ripples over him.
1827h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
1827h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
Korimbu takes a drink from a pearl vial.
1827h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
Korimbu takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his head.
1827h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
A stream of wooden splinters shoots in from the up, peppering you with a painful barrage
of tiny cuts.
The sticky sap coating your body causes you to move unbearably slowly.
1032h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
You cough uncontrollably, as you hack up some black phlegm.
1032h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
The song of an angelic choir fills the air with a blazing white light.
You bleed 830 health.
202h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
Flying insects suddenly swarm you, covering you with tiny, painful stings.
Flying insects suddenly swarm Korimbu, covering him with tiny, painful stings.
202h, 5282m, 6011e, 10p sSibp<>-
A stream of wooden splinters shoots in from the up, peppering you with a painful barrage
of tiny cuts.
You bleed to death from the hundreds of tiny punctures left by the splinters embedded in
your flesh.
You have been slain by Celina.
Furien2009-08-07 18:45:27
You're spamming rub. You need to wait roughly .5 seconds before any command goes through. Any commands entered in the meantime will overwrite the previous one and reset the timer.

Also, when you see that message about the tree, you should stop trying to flood. I think it forces you off eq but I'm not 100% on that, either way it's useless.

Go in with Protection scroll up next time too.

Edit: You had protection, just work on the cleansing. In fact, as an Aqua, you can just cast cleanse at yourself.
Vathael2009-08-07 18:48:21
not to take away from the power of sap or anything, i just feel the need to say lrn2heal to this log.
Zynna2009-08-07 18:49:54
Fair enough, but any concrete advice on how to learn2heal?
Zynna2009-08-07 18:50:51
QUOTE (Furien @ Aug 7 2009, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're spamming rub. You need to wait roughly .5 seconds before any command goes through. Any commands entered in the meantime will overwrite the previous one and reset the timer.


Thanks, I'll give that a try next time. I didn't realize it reset the timer.
Shaddus2009-08-07 18:51:02
QUOTE (Vathael @ Aug 7 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not to take away from the power of sap or anything, i just feel the need to say lrn2heal to this log.

Not sure what she uses, but Ethelon's system spazzes out in Sap/Choke. Honestly, you're better off turning off your reflexes, Focus body/shield/cleanse in that order. If she drops your shield, put it back up before anything else.
Zynna2009-08-07 18:51:57
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Aug 7 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure what she uses, but Ethelon's system spazzes out in Sap/Choke. Honestly, you're better off turning off your reflexes, Focus body/shield/cleanse in that order. If she drops your shield, put it back up before anything else.


Thanks -- will give that a try too!
Vathael2009-08-07 18:52:33
Learn what afflictions prevent you from healing sap. You will be paralyzed a lot, possible prone and broken legs, sleep, webbed, etc etc. What system is that, your own? Do you even know how to code?
Furien2009-08-07 18:52:35
You're going to run into issues with paralysis et al, too. Generally speaking the most she'll be hindering you with, active, is vines (writhe), paralysis (focus body), prone/broken leg (apply mending to legs, stance), etc. All of those will stop cleanse from going through. If she's actually standing there dedicated to killing you there's not much you can do, but as it stands you're probably a nonthreat so mostly free from active interference. The demesne is all you'll have to worry about.

Also, being on a Celest alt just fills me with pity. :S
Shaddus2009-08-07 18:53:43
QUOTE
Celina raises her arms and hums deeply the note of the forest, which breaks into a
discordant tone. Silhouettes of twisted trees darken in the air, their long shadows
casting a forbidding doom across the ground.
LOCATION TAINTED FORESTED.

Celina presses her hand upon the forest floor and sings softly to herself. Slowly, a rowan
sapling pushes upwards out of the soil and sways gently towards her.

You try to meld into the terrain, but the strength of a nearby tree prevents you.

Celina kneels down and touches her forehead to the earth, then whispers softly. A deep
emerald glow ripples across the ground and Celina's eyes momentarily flash with a matching
emerald light.

Also, may I say this is retarded. If a mage taints/floods, then uses terrain, they can't meld. Terrain has to go in AFTER meld. Celina shouldn't be able to put up the sapling to prevent flood/taint before she melds.
Zynna2009-08-07 18:55:41
QUOTE (Vathael @ Aug 7 2009, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Learn what afflictions prevent you from healing sap. You will be paralyzed a lot, possible prone and broken legs, sleep, webbed, etc etc. What system is that, your own? Do you even know how to code?


Thanks, I have Talkan's system for Zmud. Have been thinking about switching to MUSHclient as it's more updated now, of course. My coding skills are pretty abysmal beyond the easy alias/trigger setting, so I heavily rely on the coding I get from others.
Furien2009-08-07 18:55:58
One of many issues between mages and druids, yes.

I also have to pity Celest for having no leader and nobody going in there knew how to chop saplings, which are essentially brick walls compared to terrain.
Zynna2009-08-07 18:57:01
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Aug 7 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, may I say this is retarded. If a mage taints/floods, then uses terrain, they can't meld. Terrain has to go in AFTER meld. Celina shouldn't be able to put up the sapling to prevent flood/taint before she melds.


What happened was I had the room melded, I had already queued up terrain because I had just melded, but between the meld and terrain, she broke the room.
Vathael2009-08-07 18:57:02
QUOTE (Furien @ Aug 7 2009, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're going to run into issues with paralysis et al, too. Generally speaking the most she'll be hindering you with, active, is vines (writhe), paralysis (focus body), prone/broken leg (apply mending to legs, stance), etc. All of those will stop cleanse from going through. If she's actually standing there dedicated to killing you there's not much you can do, but as it stands you're probably a nonthreat so mostly free from active interference. The demesne is all you'll have to worry about.

Also, being on a Celest alt just fills me with pity. :S


Why do you just repeat what I say. sad.gif And vs 1 druid there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to cleanse sap. The only time I've ran into problems curing sap is when there are 3 druids hindering me and sapping when I scrub and a warrior SD and monk hindering me too. 1v1 sap is not a problem.
Vathael2009-08-07 18:57:38
Oh Talkan's system, you need to have Trueheal for it to work correctly.
Zynna2009-08-07 18:58:26
QUOTE (Furien @ Aug 7 2009, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're going to run into issues with paralysis et al, too. Generally speaking the most she'll be hindering you with, active, is vines (writhe), paralysis (focus body), prone/broken leg (apply mending to legs, stance), etc. All of those will stop cleanse from going through. If she's actually standing there dedicated to killing you there's not much you can do, but as it stands you're probably a nonthreat so mostly free from active interference. The demesne is all you'll have to worry about.

Also, being on a Celest alt just fills me with pity. :S


Okay, good to know, thanks!

Make the alt your main? smile.gif
Shaddus2009-08-07 18:58:42
QUOTE (Zynna @ Aug 7 2009, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What happened was I had the room melded, I had already queued up terrain because I had just melded, but between the meld and terrain, she broke the room.

Not entirely sure what "queued up terrain" means, but I would make an alias. For instance, WT * performs WEAVE TERRAIN %1. You could meld, then WT OCEAN pretty quickly
Shaddus2009-08-07 18:59:07
QUOTE (Vathael @ Aug 7 2009, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh Talkan's system, you need to have Trueheal for it to work correctly.

Roflcopter.
Furien2009-08-07 18:59:11
QUOTE (Vathael @ Aug 7 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why do you just repeat what I say. sad.gif And vs 1 druid there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to cleanse sap. The only time I've ran into problems curing sap is when there are 3 druids hindering me and sapping when I scrub and a warrior SD and monk hindering me too. 1v1 sap is not a problem.


Depends on the person's tankiness and the enemy druid's skill. Versus Thoros as a dreamweaver I managed to get him to fire, but then the rest of the 10 minutes of the match consisted of him tumbling out, me hastily extending/unmelding/etc. my demesne and trying to keep him down. He could just tank everything I did to him no problem, but that's not an option in Zynna's case. There's a certain point where afflictions alone are unfortunately not enough.
Celina2009-08-07 18:59:51
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Aug 7 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, may I say this is retarded. If a mage taints/floods, then uses terrain, they can't meld. Terrain has to go in AFTER meld. Celina shouldn't be able to put up the sapling to prevent flood/taint before she melds.


Wrong. Think about ethereal. We'd be chopping our own saplings just to meld, only to replant them again. Would be impossible to defend.