Oh, and just in case the people who aren't voting me organise, unvote vote: kiradawea. although I'm still hoping Allergic has something to contribute!

No Daganev, Bali is just being a retard. off Bali

Also, if you're going to clam up as soon as I start posting, don't bitch about me being quiet

Well, whatever, I'm going to bed. If you guys feel like talking tomorrow, let me know

Hi people.

I'm Ran. I'm masons with Shiri.

If you want to hurt Shiri, you're going to have go through me.

Someone ( I think it was Furien) mentioned something about the vampires not being able to come out during day. Celina's disappeared. Could she be Remilia/Flandre?

I can certainly see the possibility where all the Scarlet Devil Mansion people are scum. But then, that would be a bit difficult for them to win, with all this name-confirmation with danmaku battles.

Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that. But it seems weird that Celina would never be allowed to talk during the day (...well, depending on the mod...)

Also until we have proof otherwise I'm not willing to bet that the SDM team is scum due to having envoys sent to them in the signup post. We can get there later down the line when we have more people figured out.

I'll also point out that Othero is the one who suggested Serella as the lurker to lynch, not Shiri.

OH WAIT, I think I may have figured something out. Let's just abandon the whole SDM thing for now.

Keeping my vote on Kira.

Able to share any of that revelation with the rest of us by chance?

Care to share?

Anyway, Solanis's post is good enough confirmation for me, Ran is just about the most unlikely scum fakeclaim ever since she figures so prominently in the introduction. I'll put aside the Shiri-Daganev bickering since they seem to be just being their usual antagonistic-against-the-other selves, and vote: Kiradawea.

No, I'm not sharing, I'll just say we should take the whole SDM thing out of the equation for now.

Just got back from a weekend trip, and caught up on the reading. Gah, that bandwagon developed on Shiri fast. I don't believe he is scum at this point in time and I find the ease in which that train developed a larger sign of scum behaviour than anything thus far.

As for roles, I can say my role does fit my flavor to a fashion although I think this is more a case of independant mafia ((Mafia from various "sides")) than a full flavored side. So far, it seems like we have members of all sides speaking up and I feel that they seem to be town or a majority town.

Personally, I haven't seen anything that points to Shiri being scum outside his normal behaviour. He plays an aggressive game, and gets people thinking, and thus the mafia wanted him dead. I know I had him killed in the first game we played simply because of that. So many sheep.

So... In the interests of following the trail of that train and hearing a little more on the reasons, Vote: Kiradawea

I don't think either Shiri or Daganev are scum, so probably not the best people to start a bandwagon on. Chen and Sakuya don't sound like suspicious roles, and Kiradawea's reasons for having him lynched seemed a bit like an excuse to start a bandwagon (thank you for defending me though).

Also, because of the small discussion about Scarlet Devil Mansion, some more detailed information. I have no idea what Shiri figured out, but this might clear it up, mostly about Flandre.

My role is town, and one of my abilities involves Sakuya helping out in a spellbattle, so I'm almost positively sure Sakuya is also town. I don't know if Flandre is town or not, so it's possible she's an SK. The reason Flandre/Celina isn't here right now is because she's locked in the basement from the start of the game, and until the basement is unlocked she won't be able to post or do anything. I can unlock the basement and let her out, but I'm not sure if that would be a wise choice yet.

You can probably figure out my role from this, but I just thought it needed to be explained more fully so SDM wouldn't be suspected as scum. (Hint: I'm not Patchouli. I wish I was )

Finally... I can't think of what roles might be scum, other than Yuka and Mima, so I guess the only way to find out is to lynch a mafia member. The fact that the villains of one Touhou game join you to help out in the next makes it confusing, hopefully it turns out to make sense in the end =_=

You didn't have to tell them that...OTL. I said to drop it for a reason!

Well, at least you have some sort of communication with your faction. I can't prove anything about the others from mine since I don't know anything about them. It is sort of alarming that there was a total lack of kills last night though, if you have her locked up in the basement. Either the scum whiffed, were roleblocked, or had something else occur to them. Maybe.. Limited kill conditions? I don't know.

Out of curiousity, why leave her in the basement? Is there something that should be alarming about Flandre/Celina that we should be aware of? I mean, more bodies means a better chance for town so long as we know Celina is town.

Ah, missed the part where you weren't sure if she was town or not.

Shiri, any thoughts on what happened with this new information brought to light with Night 0?

Flandre is crazy and can (and will) destroy . DESTROY. Her sister Remilia keeps her locked up in the basement.

Since Serella went and said a bunch of stuff she didn't need to, I'll clarify my suspicion from earlier: Mima needs to attack the main members of the various areas (SDM being one) in order to do something...maybe get randoms on their side (like Flandre). This is why we have lines related to the statuses of the various areas. It's also a drawback to the spellcard nameconfirming process, although it's still valuable to us and we can't afford to not use it because the town needs confirmed names more than the scum does.

I am not that confident about this and it is pretty shaky speculation based on intuition and circumstancial evidence, but I don't think it can hurt to go with that premise right now. At any rate Serella is not a priority town target.

So she could probably use protection tonight.

Oh, and no I don't have any specific guesses on where the kill went. It could have been any of roleblock, doctor or whiffing on Celina.