Arix2009-09-11 05:25:16
I'm going to bed, I'm too tired to be playing Mafia right now
Daganev2009-09-11 05:39:53
Shiri implied that Zetsu was his third mason member.
Furien2009-09-11 05:40:53
Um. No he didn't.
If it isn't obvious who Lyco is right now you people don't know Touhou all that well.
(And to be fair most of you are clueless.)
If it isn't obvious who Lyco is right now you people don't know Touhou all that well.
(And to be fair most of you are clueless.)
Unknown2009-09-11 05:41:44
Thank you, everyone, for allowing me to live long enough to make the revelations I've become increasingly anxious to make. I've made some mistakes along the way, but by sheer luck those mistakes might have prevented scum from considering me a priority target until now. I am genuinely shocked I did not get killed over the night, and I am quite confounded by my own disappearing act. But no matter, I am sure they'll target me in short order.
I am Reimu Hakurei. I win with town. My ability of evasion comes by virtue of my tiny hitbox. It has a pretty high chance of success, and affects all actions taken against me, which with any luck will allow me to live a bit longer and help you kill scum. For backup on this part of my claim, see:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Hitbox
I had the misfortune of being injured in the prologue, and being human, I did not heal completely by the time the game started. My injuries prevented me from doing pretty much anything but talking. That's why you didn't see me voting during day one. If either Salvation or I seemed fishy for wanting to respect anonymity, it was only because of a desire to recover from this state of vulnerability. As others have pointed out, my ability of evasion sounds scummy/neutral, and since I wouldn't have been able to spellcard battle on day 1 due to my injuries... well, I'm just glad those reached their limit before suspicion fell on me. That would have been ugly.
With the dawning of Day 2, I am ready for action again, and don't intend to waste any time with getting fully active with town.
This is why I am directing my attention at Kiradawea. She has had some shadow of suspicion over her ever since she revealed the information she had regarding Mima's desire for the Hakurei orbs. Could she be Mima herself? Knowing who I am now, I think you can understand why I initially wished to grant her mutual respect of anonymity - if I could conceal my identity until day 2, at least, I would stand a better chance of surviving Mima's watch and her attacks.
I'm sure you all read my last lengthy post. A recent revelation near the end of day 1 has convinced me that Kiradawea is not Yukari Yakumo. Why?
Take a look at Shiri and Solanis' roles. They were both town, and they both could communicate with one other person. There is a clear implication that Zetsu is Yukari Yakumo.
I also have reason to suspect that Kiradawea is not the second mystery role I thought she might be. While I was gleaning through the thread for information, I realized someone said that "If anything, I am a lie detector sort". This makes me inclined to believe that they might be the mystery role, and not Kiradawea.
And then, we also have Kiradawea's actions during twilight to consider.
I can't allow this to continue, Kiradawea. Shiri suggested spellcard battles for Lorick, you, and Me for this day. I'm going to make good on that. If you are town, please reveal your identity in full, so we can do what we can to protect you should you really possess information gathering abilities. If you are scum, I want you dead, and I'll die in broad daylight in an effort to reveal you should I have to.
Think this is a bogus claim? Okay. Wait for someone else to claim to be Reimu. I can promise it won't happen. No townie in their right mind would lie like that, and any scum attempting to do so will be effectively sacrificing themselves once I wind up dead. Too costly for them.
So, without further ado:
I challenge Kiradawea! Spell Card Set!
(PS - Fishing for Shiri's old posts in this thread is very time consuming. Ugh.)
I am Reimu Hakurei. I win with town. My ability of evasion comes by virtue of my tiny hitbox. It has a pretty high chance of success, and affects all actions taken against me, which with any luck will allow me to live a bit longer and help you kill scum. For backup on this part of my claim, see:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Hitbox
I had the misfortune of being injured in the prologue, and being human, I did not heal completely by the time the game started. My injuries prevented me from doing pretty much anything but talking. That's why you didn't see me voting during day one. If either Salvation or I seemed fishy for wanting to respect anonymity, it was only because of a desire to recover from this state of vulnerability. As others have pointed out, my ability of evasion sounds scummy/neutral, and since I wouldn't have been able to spellcard battle on day 1 due to my injuries... well, I'm just glad those reached their limit before suspicion fell on me. That would have been ugly.
With the dawning of Day 2, I am ready for action again, and don't intend to waste any time with getting fully active with town.
This is why I am directing my attention at Kiradawea. She has had some shadow of suspicion over her ever since she revealed the information she had regarding Mima's desire for the Hakurei orbs. Could she be Mima herself? Knowing who I am now, I think you can understand why I initially wished to grant her mutual respect of anonymity - if I could conceal my identity until day 2, at least, I would stand a better chance of surviving Mima's watch and her attacks.
I'm sure you all read my last lengthy post. A recent revelation near the end of day 1 has convinced me that Kiradawea is not Yukari Yakumo. Why?
QUOTE (Shiri @ Sep 8 2009, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we can afford to leave Zetsu alone for now, for reasons I'll explain (or have Solanis explain if I'm dead by then) when it comes up.
Take a look at Shiri and Solanis' roles. They were both town, and they both could communicate with one other person. There is a clear implication that Zetsu is Yukari Yakumo.
I also have reason to suspect that Kiradawea is not the second mystery role I thought she might be. While I was gleaning through the thread for information, I realized someone said that "If anything, I am a lie detector sort". This makes me inclined to believe that they might be the mystery role, and not Kiradawea.
And then, we also have Kiradawea's actions during twilight to consider.
I can't allow this to continue, Kiradawea. Shiri suggested spellcard battles for Lorick, you, and Me for this day. I'm going to make good on that. If you are town, please reveal your identity in full, so we can do what we can to protect you should you really possess information gathering abilities. If you are scum, I want you dead, and I'll die in broad daylight in an effort to reveal you should I have to.
Think this is a bogus claim? Okay. Wait for someone else to claim to be Reimu. I can promise it won't happen. No townie in their right mind would lie like that, and any scum attempting to do so will be effectively sacrificing themselves once I wind up dead. Too costly for them.
So, without further ado:
I challenge Kiradawea! Spell Card Set!
(PS - Fishing for Shiri's old posts in this thread is very time consuming. Ugh.)
Furien2009-09-11 05:45:34
Ehhh, back up. Again, I don't believe that Lyco OR Kiradawea is Yukari.
In fact, I was very cautious about voting for Kira in case she was Reimu herself, but apparently that's not the case.
Regardless, it's good to have Vendetta on board, on the 'survivor' thing was making me suspicious.
In fact, I was very cautious about voting for Kira in case she was Reimu herself, but apparently that's not the case.
Regardless, it's good to have Vendetta on board, on the 'survivor' thing was making me suspicious.
Unknown2009-09-11 05:48:43
I think the card battle might help with something, but I'm going to go ahead and Vote: Kiradawea.
Kiradawea2009-09-11 07:27:19
I know it ain't a bogus claim my dear Reimu. In fact, I've known you were Reimu for quite some time. It is most unfortunate that you would have to reveal yourself like this, for I would far rather have kept your knowledge a secret. But alas, a pity it would not work out so. Especially because, as we all know, how are you to defeat me? Not even with the aide of your companion could you beat me on your first go. You should have respected my wish to keep both our identities hidden, for how should I, the strongest Youkai of Gensokyo, fall to you?
But no, let us battle. I Yuka Kazami, Flower Master of the Four Seasons and strongest Youkai in all of Gensokyo will show you what I've got.
I accept Reimu's challenge! Spell Card Set!
Nothing shall stop the reflowering of Gensokyo. Spell Card Declare! Flower Sign: Reflowering of Gensokyo.
But no, let us battle. I Yuka Kazami, Flower Master of the Four Seasons and strongest Youkai in all of Gensokyo will show you what I've got.
I accept Reimu's challenge! Spell Card Set!
Nothing shall stop the reflowering of Gensokyo. Spell Card Declare! Flower Sign: Reflowering of Gensokyo.
Unknown2009-09-11 07:36:34
Well, what do you know? You must realize there's at least one factor you didn't consider the first time: my Last Word.
Easy come, easy go.
Spell Card Declare! Spirit Sign "Fantasy Seal -Spread-"
Easy come, easy go.
Spell Card Declare! Spirit Sign "Fantasy Seal -Spread-"
Unknown2009-09-11 08:34:49
Looks like we were on the right track. Go, Reimu-san, go!
I'm of two minds about whether or not Zetsu is or is not Yukari, because it looks like he's operating under an RP restriction unless I'm very much mistaken. I thought Shiri's quote could be interpreted in two ways - that they know who he is because they're a mason trio, or that Shiri somehow managed to tell Solanis who he suspected Zetsu to be, but if I didn't get the timeline mixed up, Shiri would have had no chance to talk about it before he died. Hmm.
I read that as the normal scum win condition (i.e. you win when scum > town), and I don't know where you got your cult interpretation from. Since you were confirmed on the first day and claim to be town, are you saying that there exists the possibility that you've been culted? FoS, though I can see where the confusion arises.
I think we can confirm Lorick now regarding his claims (staring intensely, Reisen, roleblocking), and I suspect our Aya is a public tracker, hence the 'news' at break of dawn. Interesting.
In any case, our lynch for today is pretty obvious, regardless of the outcome of the battle, so vote. We'll definitely have to go back and take a look at who's been defending/trying to divert attention from Kiradawea.
I'm of two minds about whether or not Zetsu is or is not Yukari, because it looks like he's operating under an RP restriction unless I'm very much mistaken. I thought Shiri's quote could be interpreted in two ways - that they know who he is because they're a mason trio, or that Shiri somehow managed to tell Solanis who he suspected Zetsu to be, but if I didn't get the timeline mixed up, Shiri would have had no chance to talk about it before he died. Hmm.
QUOTE (Othero)
No, no, no, and no. We have a cult, that's pretty obvious with "When Mimi's follower's compose the majority of players." If you're not taking that wording as cult then you're being foolish. Role claims won't really be beneficial to town because the person who claimed on the first day and got confirmed as town is going to be a cult member on day two.
I read that as the normal scum win condition (i.e. you win when scum > town), and I don't know where you got your cult interpretation from. Since you were confirmed on the first day and claim to be town, are you saying that there exists the possibility that you've been culted? FoS, though I can see where the confusion arises.
I think we can confirm Lorick now regarding his claims (staring intensely, Reisen, roleblocking), and I suspect our Aya is a public tracker, hence the 'news' at break of dawn. Interesting.
In any case, our lynch for today is pretty obvious, regardless of the outcome of the battle, so vote. We'll definitely have to go back and take a look at who's been defending/trying to divert attention from Kiradawea.
Unknown2009-09-11 08:41:03
After some more reading, FoS Zynna and AtS. They jumped on Llandros after suspicions about Kiradawea were posted, for no apparent reason, together, and despite Xikue's claims. It could very well be an organised scum lynch attempt, especially since Zynna's reason is flimsy and untrue (he never lied about his name vs his spellcard).
Unknown2009-09-11 09:58:51
QUOTE (Xikue @ Sep 11 2009, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's with the sudden voting for Llandros? *peer Zynna and AllergictoSabres* He was shown to be Yuyuko-sama quite early on.
QUOTE (Silferras @ Sep 11 2009, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After some more reading, FoS Zynna and AtS. They jumped on Llandros after suspicions about Kiradawea were posted, for no apparent reason, together, and despite Xikue's claims. It could very well be an organised scum lynch attempt, especially since Zynna's reason is flimsy and untrue (he never lied about his name vs his spellcard).
If you guys look back, I've been on Llandros the whole time. It's not all of a sudden. I changed my vote to Renthur at the end of Day one because of his lack of wanting to play and the evidence against him. I even said in my post when I changed that I would be going back to pushing Llandros on day two.
Also, now that we know he is inactive, if he's not replaced I'd want him eliminated. Having inactives just sitting through the whole game is how we got screwed last time.
If he's replaced and the new Llandros says something constructive and half convincing, I'll start focusing on others.
Unknown2009-09-11 10:55:35
I am town but not quite who you think I am ze~. Vote Kiradawea
Tekora2009-09-11 11:21:21
Runic circles and danmaku bullets fill the sky as Vendetta and Kiradawea attack each other with their full might. The day sky temporarily turns black as thunderclouds gather above, lightning crashing down about the battlefield as a testament to the power being expended in the clash between these two individuals.
The battle continues for some time, until finally, ragged and worn, both combatants stop firing and fall to the ground exhausted.
The battle is a stalemate.
The battle continues for some time, until finally, ragged and worn, both combatants stop firing and fall to the ground exhausted.
The battle is a stalemate.
Unknown2009-09-11 11:43:14
Heh. The same spellcard over again? I saw enough the last time to make it through.
Moving on, AtS is also on my list of suspicious characters. Just how he's been more quiet than the rest of the crew, then made a reappearance just in time to throw in another vote on Renthur when it didn't matter. Then there was twilight.
However, there is also Shaddus. He had a double vote weight that he didn't take advantage of even when we could have needed it. He didn't even show up during twilight. And unlike Llandros, who looks townie and is confirmed via spellcard, we know nothing about him other than his willingness to drink that potion. Where are you, Shaddus? What's the deal? Why is no one else suspicious of him?
Lorick, if you plan to follow along with Shiri's suggestion and spellcard challenge someone, I would suggest one of these two. Zynna, if you really insist, but I don't think she comes across as fishy as the other two.
AtS and Shaddus: if you could reveal a little about yourselves, that would be encouraging to us of the town who have taken risks and paid off with them.
I'm not against lingering a little to talk things over before we lynch, if it is useful to us, but all the same, I still feel like voting right now. If only because I can vote again. Ugh, all that waiting was awful.
Vote: Kiradawea
Oh, and I give a tip of the hat to Daganev, who might be the only reason I'm still here now. I'm sure I'll have to say something like that a few more times if my luck hasn't run out yet.
Moving on, AtS is also on my list of suspicious characters. Just how he's been more quiet than the rest of the crew, then made a reappearance just in time to throw in another vote on Renthur when it didn't matter. Then there was twilight.
However, there is also Shaddus. He had a double vote weight that he didn't take advantage of even when we could have needed it. He didn't even show up during twilight. And unlike Llandros, who looks townie and is confirmed via spellcard, we know nothing about him other than his willingness to drink that potion. Where are you, Shaddus? What's the deal? Why is no one else suspicious of him?
Lorick, if you plan to follow along with Shiri's suggestion and spellcard challenge someone, I would suggest one of these two. Zynna, if you really insist, but I don't think she comes across as fishy as the other two.
AtS and Shaddus: if you could reveal a little about yourselves, that would be encouraging to us of the town who have taken risks and paid off with them.
I'm not against lingering a little to talk things over before we lynch, if it is useful to us, but all the same, I still feel like voting right now. If only because I can vote again. Ugh, all that waiting was awful.
Vote: Kiradawea
Oh, and I give a tip of the hat to Daganev, who might be the only reason I'm still here now. I'm sure I'll have to say something like that a few more times if my luck hasn't run out yet.
Furien2009-09-11 12:34:36
Vote: Kiradawea
Kiradawea2009-09-11 12:44:11
Your last word? Heh, neither your nor my last word have been spoken. I must admit you did better this time. But irregardless, neither Maiden nor Spirit will stop me. But I'm afraid I'll have to postphone our discussion for a while. I'll return later, and then we can speak Reimu.
Unknown2009-09-11 12:45:06
Lynching the lurkers or not playing is not a good reason here when going after Yuyuko-sama, a vital leader of Gensokyo. Looks like we know who to go after come Twilight.
Unknown2009-09-11 13:03:24
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Sep 11 2009, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your last word? Heh, neither your nor my last word have been spoken. I must admit you did better this time. But irregardless, neither Maiden nor Spirit will stop me. But I'm afraid I'll have to postphone our discussion for a while. I'll return later, and then we can speak Reimu.
Yeah, I figured you weren't done yet. Though I will admit, the way you carry on does give me a little comfort. You're good about putting up a front, so I'm sure if you had a seriously nasty surprise in store for us, you would have turned into a weeping, gelatinous mass to try to convince us to put our guard down. That would have been really scary.
Regardless, townies with day powers, take note and seriously consider how your actions can help the majority of the town live through this day.
As a final request - can you kindly stop with the "I'm strongest" business? We all know that title belongs to Cirno anyways, no use in trying to convince us otherwise.
Unknown2009-09-11 14:03:02
Uwah, what an epic battle!
Kira-kira, your name goes so well with the sparkling flowers. It's a pity that it must end.
Kira-kira, your name goes so well with the sparkling flowers. It's a pity that it must end.
Zynna2009-09-11 14:12:04
I voted for Llandros at twilight because he did lie about his role (well, we shall see. His spellcard said he was someone that he specifically said he wasn't) and there had been suspicion about him before. There was still a lot of back and forth between Lorick and Kiradawea at the time, and I hadn't made up my mind there yet, so went for someone I felt more confident about.
Of course, seeing that Lorick was a 'peeping tom' at Kiradawea explains why he's been going after her... he learned something bad and didn't want to reveal yet. So I feel more confident about a vote on Kiradawea now. (But yes, my next target, unless something else more compelling comes up, is still Llandros)
Vote: Kiradawea
Of course, seeing that Lorick was a 'peeping tom' at Kiradawea explains why he's been going after her... he learned something bad and didn't want to reveal yet. So I feel more confident about a vote on Kiradawea now. (But yes, my next target, unless something else more compelling comes up, is still Llandros)
Vote: Kiradawea