Which means it's probably a good idea to narrow down our pool of suspects and confirm more names.

I'm up for a spellcard battle today. The question is, who?

Aya having no spellcards = ???, sorry.

There are two people in the world that legitimately have no spell cards and I'm not going to say who just yet.

Explain more?

I can imagine Aya having no spellcards (Shoot the Bullet comes to mind), and the existence of Aya in this game is pretty much confirmed, so if no one else comes forth as Aya, he's probably telling the truth.

The actual existence of Aya so far only comes from a newspaper. She could easily just be an NPC.

Fair enough. AtS?

No. AtS is Aya. It's just more likely that he got an empty prompt and didn't ask Tekora about what happened. That happened to me, I started out without Spellcard or Final Word and didn't get them until I asked for it.

Anyway I accept Othero's challenge! Spell Card Set!

Show me what you've got. Spell Card Declare: Love Sign: Double Spark

Anyway, I'm sure you guys can get rid of Mima without me. I don't have any abilities designed to eliminate Mima. What I do have is the ability to prevent a Twilight from taking place. My goal is the reflowering of Gensokyo. I do that by targetting every location in the game once. Successfully targetting a location also reveals to me what goal interests anyone may take in a location. That's how I knew about Mima wanting to kill Reimu for the Yin-Yang orbs. It's apparently needed for her reincarnation. If I and Mima target the same location, we'll also cancel each other out. She won't initiate Twilight, and I won't reflower the location. My win condition doesn't technically interfere with anyone. I win either by surviving, or by targetting all locations.

Not that anyone but V listens to what I say anyway... have fun with Twilights every night.

Celina has joined the investigation.

=Votecount=

Kiradawea: 7 (Daganev, Zetsu, Lorick, Silferras, Furien, Xikue, Arix)

With 16 alive and present, it is 9 to lynch.

Oh.. Celina's back. Can you daykill or nightkill or anything of the sort? If we can find Mima, that'd be good.

While unconfirmed as a true player role in this game, that role is significant enough that I think it would be in. It makes sense.

I'll believe Zetsu is that person.

Given that, and Furien's knowledge regarding Yukari, I will assume Furien is Yukari without asking him to reveal himself.

If Silferras isn't Kaguya, then either Arix or Shaddus is Kaguya.

Unless AtS is lying and one of them is Aya.

But Arix said he wasn't Aya.

No one else is claiming to be Aya, and if Shaddus were active enough to spy on Lorick, he damn well should be active enough to post and reveal that AtS is lying.

It also occurred to me that Llandros and Shaddus have both been inactive for about the same period of time. Tekora is seeking a replacement for Llandros, but not Shaddus. This would imply that Shaddus is clandestinely active.

Let's believe AtS's claim. I have a hard time believing Tekora would feed us information like that with an NPC.

Silferras, are you not Kaguya? If you aren't, then... we might have Mima. Either in Shaddus and his long term lurking, or in Arix, in a gutsy move to make himself look accomendating before "disappearing" until Monday. As noted here:



If Silferras isn't Kaguya, that means either Arix or Shaddus can be targetted next. Lynching Kaguya would be a waste, but wouldn't result in a townie death. She'd come back the next day like Othero.

If Silferras is Kaguya, then I'm at a loss, and we seem to have expended our options rather completely at the moment.

Silferras, choose a spellcard battle as you see fit. At this point, I think any more input from me will only serve to make Lorick and others more suspicious of my intent. This needs to be a decision the whole town makes, not just me.

I'm not Kaguya. What knowledge did you mean that Furien seemed to have? I don't have time to check back at this point, but did either Shiri or Solanis ever give the impression of supporting/defending or otherwise not going against Furien?

This is the entire basis on which I am assuming that Furien is Yukari. For him to believe that at that time, would he have to be Yukari himself?

Though if he were Kaguya, and either Arix or Shaddus were Yukari instead, and one of them was lynched at random, that could have some most regrettable results.

My theory plays on a lot of other chances too - that Arix didn't lie about not being Aya to escape scum watch, and that Zetsu is who we think he is.

This is why it is the whole town's decision.

Eh, that statement could well be taken as 'I don't think they're Yukari due to context/observation,' because I didn't think either of them were Yukari, either. Furien, care to claim, or at least say whether or not Vendetta's speculations are true?

For the Touhou challenged who are people thinking Zetsu is?

Marisa. This presents a pickle if both of her spellcards are "Master Spark" and "Orreries Sun", as Mima can use both of those as well.

However, we can still work around it.

I will propose scenarios. Each involves lynching Yuka first, so that is being left out of the equation.

1. Silf reveals her identity via spellcard and "confirms" Zetsu as Marisa.
If you lynch one of Arix/Shaddus and you get a dead Marisa, Zetsu is Mima.
If you lynch one of Arix/Shaddus and you discover Kaguya, the other of Arix/Shaddus is Mima.
If you lynch one of Arix/Shaddus and you kill Mima, you are done.

2. Silf reveals her identity via spellcard and confirms Furien as Yukari.
If you lynch one of Arix/Shaddus and you get a dead Yukari, Furien is Mima.
If you lynch one of Arix/Shaddus and you discover Kaguya, the other of Arix/Shaddus is Mima.
If you lynch one of Arix/Shaddus and you kill Mima, you are done.

This leaves three things to worry about.

1. Silferras suddenly refusing to spellcard battle. I don't see this happening.

2. Kaguya is scum, and tries to hide who she is still. This doesn't make much sense since if Othero has no spellcards, then there is no way to kill her. Reisen and Eirin are her loyal friends and underlings, and they are town. Even Othero, her rival, cannot say she is scum.

3. Furien is Kaguya. Or if Zetsu is Kaguya, on that off-chance.

Actually, wait. I did that wrong. If Silferras challenges Furien and confirms him as being Yukari, then there's nothing more to wonder about regarding who Yukari is. If Silferras challenges Zetsu and we don't get a definitively unique spellcard, Furien can be either Kaguya or Yukari and we can't say anything about Zetsu for sure.



Looks like I made a mistake again.

Getting confusing here. I'll wait to see if Furien feels like claiming, then make a decision when/if he posts, unless there are better alternatives.

Vendetta I think you're making it more complicated than it has to be. @A@

@Furien. Oh. Aya wasn't on my list either, but it makes sense coming from Shoot the Bullet. I had two other possibilities though.

It's just my desire to find Mima causing me to vent every thought that comes to mind.

I'll silence myself for the time being now, until town decides they know what they want to do or if someone has a question for me.

Will be out for a few hours, then back briefly before I have to go to work.

I don't have much more proof than what I've said as I don't have spellcards or Final words to reveal myself. I suppose the group as a whole could choose someone for me to try to get a scoop on tonight, but there will only be a published newspaper tomorrow if they actually do something newsworthy. I can't print that they just slept all night!

Why aren't we trying what V said now, instead? If Kira is telling the truth with her win condition, she's got a lot of days left and she might stop a twilight or two in the process. I don't get why we don't go with the more pressing concern of Twilights and village attacks. I say have Silf reveal via spellcard, lynch one of those two - Shaddus being my personal preference because he's no where to be found - and then take out Yuka (Or Arix or Furien if the reveals point to them instead.)

Or maybe Dag can timeslip us many times and we don't have to worry about that. I dunno.