Unknown2009-09-15 16:52:19
Sorry for not posting the last couple of days. I've been working 12 hour shifts and I've been a little tired ze~. In anycase that was quite a bit of drama there. And yes I am Marisa. I figured that most people familiar with the story would figure it out due to my verbal tic thing (or whatever that is).
Arix2009-09-15 19:39:20
I don't know why you disappeared, and yes, I am Yukari. My night zero action was to test my power, but my target was hidden, so then I did a search and found out she was in SDM, and that told me who she was, so I've been holding on to that skill for awhile now in case she got uppity
Lorick2009-09-15 20:17:04
Under what basis has anyone to assume that Celina is town? First time she gets free she attempts to make arguements with the purpose of disclaiming me without even looking up said arguements ahead of time. Then she tries to kill me. She fails to make even a sensible arguement and just screams liar without basis. Under what reasoning is this considered townie behaviour?
Serella2009-09-15 20:52:05
Sorry you got locked in the basement again, Celina Though this wouldn't have happened if you played nicely and drank your tea like Sakuya always tells you, instead of going around destroying people.
My post doesn't mention anything about Flandre's allegiance, just that she's been locked in the basement because her powers are too dangerous. It's really unlikely that she's scum and I don't think she'd be a survivor, but who knows. I think all other SDM members have said they're town (Patchouli and Sakuya) so I don't see why Flandre would be different.
I could get behind lynching Shaddus for now, since he's unconfirmed and not posting. Also, a cult seems possible with the whole possession by Mima.
My post doesn't mention anything about Flandre's allegiance, just that she's been locked in the basement because her powers are too dangerous. It's really unlikely that she's scum and I don't think she'd be a survivor, but who knows. I think all other SDM members have said they're town (Patchouli and Sakuya) so I don't see why Flandre would be different.
I could get behind lynching Shaddus for now, since he's unconfirmed and not posting. Also, a cult seems possible with the whole possession by Mima.
Unknown2009-09-15 23:01:29
If we're sticking with possession as a theme, let's take a look at what we've been told again.
From Yuka's profile, in regards to Mima's Will:
And then we have this:
It would come to reason that there are people distinctly against Mima and distinctly for Mima. Arguing that she can turn people to mafia against their will only ends up making everyone suspect. Rather, it is more sensible to believe that someone with a distinct agenda or goal might have been convinced by Mima to assist her. Those who don't, under the same circumstances, die in the process of resistance.
We have tastes for what Yuka's motivations were, and how they might pit her against the whole of town. We even got a tiny hint of one from Renthur in regards to Medicine.
Being a doll, possession in and of itself might not affect Medicine in the same way as the rest of us, nevermind with the concept of being fully willful. And in an effort to convince Medicine to follow along with her plan, what did Mima do? Off Alice as she was traveling to join us.
Thoughts?
From Yuka's profile, in regards to Mima's Will:
QUOTE
"You are slightly put off by this invasion of your body, but as your goals seem to mesh nicely, you are willing to tolerate her for now."
And then we have this:
QUOTE
"Mima's Wrath - This is your Mafia Nightkill. Choose a person to kill at night by sending me a PM saying 'MIMA, KILL '. Mima's spirit will then leave your body, possess your target, and cause them to kill themselves in what will most likely be a quite gruesome manner. This manner of nightkilling is undetectable by watchers, but will be stopped if the target is protected that night."
It would come to reason that there are people distinctly against Mima and distinctly for Mima. Arguing that she can turn people to mafia against their will only ends up making everyone suspect. Rather, it is more sensible to believe that someone with a distinct agenda or goal might have been convinced by Mima to assist her. Those who don't, under the same circumstances, die in the process of resistance.
We have tastes for what Yuka's motivations were, and how they might pit her against the whole of town. We even got a tiny hint of one from Renthur in regards to Medicine.
QUOTE (Renthur @ Sep 9 2009, 06:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, insomnia is irritating. Alright, I'm Medicine Melancholy. Against the oppression of dolls, poisonous to the touch, etc.
Being a doll, possession in and of itself might not affect Medicine in the same way as the rest of us, nevermind with the concept of being fully willful. And in an effort to convince Medicine to follow along with her plan, what did Mima do? Off Alice as she was traveling to join us.
Thoughts?
Lorick2009-09-16 00:01:53
Alice was an npc role that was suppose to be a part of the town prior to the cut. Her death was clarified by the mod. She has no effect on any of the characters or the roleplay itself.
Lorick2009-09-16 00:03:13
There is no cult, least in my mind, with the information we have now. Mima's followers follow a standard mafia group build. There is no information that may lead to or suggest a cult that has been revealed so far.
Unknown2009-09-16 00:06:20
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 15 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alice was an npc role that was suppose to be a part of the town prior to the cut. Her death was clarified by the mod. She has no effect on any of the characters or the roleplay itself.
Indeed. Since the death was unavoidable from a player perspective, it stands to reason that it could be employed for such plot purposes. Why do you think no other NPCs have turned up dead yet? Perhaps they only will depending on how far along the mafia gets.
Unknown2009-09-16 00:18:23
Alright, well, Celina is locked up again... I guess that's good since she seems a bit homicidal. Since we're not going anywhere really, I'm gonna go ahead and
VOTE SHADDUS
For now, unless/until something more convincing comes up.
VOTE SHADDUS
For now, unless/until something more convincing comes up.
Unknown2009-09-16 00:38:44
I thought there was a mod note for replacing Shaddus ze~. Anyone know if any progress has been made on that?
Celina2009-09-16 00:51:34
(my annoyance has passed...kind of. I'll keep playing, but I swear to god If I get out and get locked up again, I will burst a blood vessel)
Unknown2009-09-16 00:51:46
Unfortunately I think the pool of Touhou mafia players is dry. I'll go ahead and vote: Shaddus
Unknown2009-09-16 01:07:26
Eh at least give it a couple of days before we vote to lynch him ze~. Looks like everyone is just going for the easy lynch.
Tekora2009-09-16 01:28:10
Celina has managed to escape the basement once again.
=Votecount!=
Vendetta: 2 (Lorick, Othero)
Shaddus: 2 (AllergictoSabres, Xikue)
With 14 alive and present, it is 8 to lynch.
=Votecount!=
Vendetta: 2 (Lorick, Othero)
Shaddus: 2 (AllergictoSabres, Xikue)
With 14 alive and present, it is 8 to lynch.
Unknown2009-09-16 01:34:19
Celina controls the mod!
Tekora2009-09-16 01:41:04
A small Yukkuri falls from the sky and nails Sabre in the head. It says "Take it Easy!" before hopping off.
Celina2009-09-16 01:42:17
*glare*
Let me unravel your lies once again.
First. You said Vendetta defended Kriadawea and that made him scum.
Second. I asked you to prove what you were saying. You refused as well as twisting my words from "I'm not sifting through 40 pages for you" to "I didn't read."
Third. Vendetta pointed me towards the posts. I showed them to the group. There was nothing involving any sort of "defense" and Vendetta clearly stated Kiradawea was scum, and that he was speculating on several matters. Thus, what you said and what was actually true were two different things. This makes you a liar.
Fourth. I turned the attention to you for your lies. Fact: you lied to sway votes. You did not like this and turned all your fury towards me. I then pointed out that you had dropped your crusade against Vendetta, to which you responded "no I didn't" and dismissed everything you had said about me rather abruptly. As I said, curious.
Fifth. I've explained what you have done quite clearly, and short of drawing a diagram, I'm not sure what I need to do to show you that you are acting extremely scummy in your attempt to get everyone to listen to you.
Sixth. You continue to over exaggerate what has been said. I never screamed liar without basis, and you refuse to actually see reasonable arguments, instead you use false claims like "you didn't read" as a defense and try to hammer them in.
So here's the deal. You are, at worst, scum, or at best, detrimental to the town's aims. I say if we are going to lynch Shaddus, let us instead lynch Lorick as we have no evidence shaddus is anything, and he is actually being replaced.
And play nice, Lorick. Can't count on Arix always being able to save you.
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 15 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Under what basis has anyone to assume that Celina is town? First time she gets free she attempts to make arguements with the purpose of disclaiming me without even looking up said arguements ahead of time. Then she tries to kill me. She fails to make even a sensible arguement and just screams liar without basis. Under what reasoning is this considered townie behaviour?
Let me unravel your lies once again.
First. You said Vendetta defended Kriadawea and that made him scum.
Second. I asked you to prove what you were saying. You refused as well as twisting my words from "I'm not sifting through 40 pages for you" to "I didn't read."
Third. Vendetta pointed me towards the posts. I showed them to the group. There was nothing involving any sort of "defense" and Vendetta clearly stated Kiradawea was scum, and that he was speculating on several matters. Thus, what you said and what was actually true were two different things. This makes you a liar.
Fourth. I turned the attention to you for your lies. Fact: you lied to sway votes. You did not like this and turned all your fury towards me. I then pointed out that you had dropped your crusade against Vendetta, to which you responded "no I didn't" and dismissed everything you had said about me rather abruptly. As I said, curious.
Fifth. I've explained what you have done quite clearly, and short of drawing a diagram, I'm not sure what I need to do to show you that you are acting extremely scummy in your attempt to get everyone to listen to you.
Sixth. You continue to over exaggerate what has been said. I never screamed liar without basis, and you refuse to actually see reasonable arguments, instead you use false claims like "you didn't read" as a defense and try to hammer them in.
So here's the deal. You are, at worst, scum, or at best, detrimental to the town's aims. I say if we are going to lynch Shaddus, let us instead lynch Lorick as we have no evidence shaddus is anything, and he is actually being replaced.
And play nice, Lorick. Can't count on Arix always being able to save you.
Celina2009-09-16 01:46:43
Oh, and unless you can point to exactly where Vendetta "defended" Kiradawea, my mind won't change.
Arix2009-09-16 06:26:12
Problem with Lorick is that he's been setting off my scumdar since t he first day, but because of my history with him I feel uncomfortable voting for him unless I have proof he's scum as opposed to gut feeling
Lorick2009-09-16 06:29:14
Ugh, Celina you of all people should know how to play mafia, but I guess I can humor the rest. Essentially, you will rarely have someone actually come out and say "I'm scum" or "I know so-and-so isn't". You aren't going to get hard solid defenses. Defending in mafia is misdirection and deflection, turning the conversation or thought of the town away from the current issue to another, since most townies tend to act like sheep and follow whatever line of thought is present at the time. Vendetta attempted to turn the town away from Kira and tried to buy her time. This isn't disputed this is a fact. Vendetta suggested that we leave a scum alive, confirmed scum mind you, under the logic we could use her against Mima. You don't leave scum standing in a mafia game, regardless of logic, and anyone advocating it needs to be put down. Scum don't suddenly become "tame", they have powers and the ability to kill the town. It was worse in this particular case because if we followed Vendetta's logic (which was wrong) we could eventually arrive at a double twilight. This made the suggestion even more off.
Speaking of you, the only time you attempted to kill me was after I resolved to press forward on Vendetta. Town, you are making a mistake here. Shaddus has been afk and is getting replaced. We have a scum right here, between Celina and Vendetta. I was right about Kira, and I'm right about this. Please don't make this mistake.
Speaking of you, the only time you attempted to kill me was after I resolved to press forward on Vendetta. Town, you are making a mistake here. Shaddus has been afk and is getting replaced. We have a scum right here, between Celina and Vendetta. I was right about Kira, and I'm right about this. Please don't make this mistake.