Unknown2009-09-16 09:49:03
Unvote Vote:Celina
Here, I'm even willing to vote for Celina instead. Obviously she's dangerous in some form.
Here, I'm even willing to vote for Celina instead. Obviously she's dangerous in some form.
Lorick2009-09-16 09:49:45
Well, then at the very least can we agree to lynch Celina? Personally, I'd rather go for Vendetta, but I have nothing against keeping him locked down to either prove or disprove him and this would be very hard to do if I have to keep using roleblocks on Celina just to stay alive.
Lorick2009-09-16 09:50:38
Ninjaed me. Yeah, I can do that. Vote : Celina
Unknown2009-09-16 09:52:01
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 16 2009, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, then at the very least can we agree to lynch Celina? Personally, I'd rather go for Vendetta, but I have nothing against keeping him locked down to either prove or disprove him and this would be very hard to do if I have to keep using roleblocks on Celina just to stay alive.
Still not buying Vendetta but if we lynch Celina I think we can get some good info. Possibly something about who let her out.
Lorick2009-09-16 09:53:32
It was what the mafia wants, but eh.. Logistically, I can't keep affording to roleblock her because she is craxy.
Lorick2009-09-16 09:55:37
I doubt we will find out who truthfully let her out. She will most likely smear someone out of spite. It sounds like an ability held by another and therefore would most likely be in that person's pm. But yeah, she is dangerous.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:05:31
Out of curiousity, has there been anything Arix has done besides what occured with Celina that has made you suspicious of him?
Lorick2009-09-16 10:05:31
Out of curiousity, has there been anything Arix has done besides what occured with Celina that has made you suspicious of him?
Lorick2009-09-16 10:05:57
...Got to love the Lusternia forums, ugh, double post.
Unknown2009-09-16 10:07:26
Just the fact that it seems like he has done nothing so far outside of this one event.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:12:23
Well, according to Arix, he had a night action that allowed him to target individual people. When he targeted Celina, she was gone, and so he saved his go back in the box card when he found out who she was. He never really stated what the night action did, but then again if we follow tradional mafia guidelines the town is as a majority unclaimed (where we remove the roles and discuss powers) so it isn't like there is any pressure to. What would strike me is that his first action would hit Celina, and then I remember the whole chainsaw event and it starts to make sense. Arix is a person who doesn't let go of past games, his reason for voting me right now actually. It wouldn't be out of character to target her first. However, that doesn't neccessarily make the action itself benefitual.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:15:45
So, according to him, he has at least for one night been active. We just didn't know it until now. I would hazard he has been targetting others if it is a multi-use power as well. Maybe me, and anyone else who has played with where he was burned. That is just speculation though.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:19:51
In fact, the way he was questioning me about if I was the investigator, or if I was Aya, would lead me to believe.. Actually, you know what, never mind. I don't think you have the right person Othero in Arix.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:20:28
If I survive the night I'll state my reasons and let Arix decide where to go from there.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:21:47
I still believe Celina is a danger though.
Lorick2009-09-16 10:33:18
Heh, went digging to reread Arix's posts, and found this. From Kira, the human part was true, so take with a grain of salt
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Knowing that, is it too unreasonable to think that Mima wants to enslave the Human village, make Flandre her second in command and suck all the life-force from the rabbits in Eientei and the Bamboo forest? (Yes. These are just random guesses.)
Lorick2009-09-16 10:35:32
With what happened at the human village, I'm fairly certain Mima needs to suck the souls out of all living things in these areas to fuel her rebirth. Rabbits, humans, us, ect. Hence the reason for this little blood bath of her's. Celina's role itself may not be aligned directly with her, but the purposes do meet in a fashion. Still, only speculation.
Unknown2009-09-16 12:16:43
Lorick, you're over-reacting.
And if it's souls Mima wants, then there are lots of ways to get souls without killing people in Touhou. There was no bloodbath in the human village. Abilities that both Yuyuko (Llandros) and Youmu (me) have. Flandres (Celina) actually fits the bill.
Touhou Wiki: "When vampires attack humans, they generally try to take their prey alive so that they can suck its blood afterward, but Flandre has always been fed with cooked dishes, so she doesn't know how to properly attack a human. Whenever she tries to attack a human, she fusses too much and blows them away without leaving a spot of blood."
But you formed an opinion first and then performed a superficial search for various points to back it up, which I dislike. I don't agree with your opinions or your methods. The only reason I haven't voted for you is because current evidence suggests you are of the town. You're pushing it though.
And if it's souls Mima wants, then there are lots of ways to get souls without killing people in Touhou. There was no bloodbath in the human village. Abilities that both Yuyuko (Llandros) and Youmu (me) have. Flandres (Celina) actually fits the bill.
Touhou Wiki: "When vampires attack humans, they generally try to take their prey alive so that they can suck its blood afterward, but Flandre has always been fed with cooked dishes, so she doesn't know how to properly attack a human. Whenever she tries to attack a human, she fusses too much and blows them away without leaving a spot of blood."
But you formed an opinion first and then performed a superficial search for various points to back it up, which I dislike. I don't agree with your opinions or your methods. The only reason I haven't voted for you is because current evidence suggests you are of the town. You're pushing it though.
Unknown2009-09-16 12:30:55
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 16 2009, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
None of these are grounded in any sort of facts and act only to attempt to make the town pause on a self confirmed scum lynch.
Based on the condition: we have found Mima. But we didn't, and as chance would have it, she wouldn't have been "found" through my methods anyways. We still would have been left with the sole choice of lynching Kiradawea.
As for Celina, I really have no idea why she's bothering. Nevermind that she's doing it so ardently. She is most assuredly a wild card, and someone sure is releasing her a lot, for one purpose or another. She's probably just hungry for action after having been stuck in the basement, then being bounced in and out of it as she has. Whoever is doing this might be counting on it.
Don't think Arix is scum, nor Lorick.
If we are to make a decision with storyline purposes and roleplay motives in mind, I think there's still one distinct option available. I'm sure Xikue and Silferras are pondering it too, but I'm not sure I should bring it up. That might instantaneously discredit it. By the same token, with all the attention I already have drawn to me, it might be better if I make mention of it for them.
If people wish to know, I will speak.
Unknown2009-09-16 13:18:33
Hmm. What's the possibility, Vendetta? I think you might have something original.
My current thinking has been to find the scum by who Mima might possess. Everyone's claimed except Shaddus. (Although Zetsu I'm kind of uncertain on.) Of course I'd like to lynch Shaddus, as that seems like the simplest solution, but people are insisting he'll get replaced.
My current thinking has been to find the scum by who Mima might possess. Everyone's claimed except Shaddus. (Although Zetsu I'm kind of uncertain on.) Of course I'd like to lynch Shaddus, as that seems like the simplest solution, but people are insisting he'll get replaced.