Touhou Mafia

by Tekora

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Unknown2009-09-16 13:31:22
Regarding those thinking that Arix/Yukari might be scum: did no one else catch that Yukari/Ran/Chen were masons? Unless Mima can possess other characters at will, which I don't think she can (it's more a godfather/passing on of nightkill power between the scum faction than anything, to me), Yukari shouldn't even be in question at all.
Furien2009-09-16 13:42:58
I think right now it's best that I speak up due to increasing suspicions that I, being the strongest, am most open to Mima's possession without anyone suspecting such a thing.

My win condition is not explicitly with the town. I win by surviving to the end of the game. I suppose by extension that makes me win with the town, but that also makes me this game's survivor. Are there other survivors? I don't know, this is up to the town to decide.

Now, also, for what it's worth- why haven't I been voting? In short, I'm a moron. The concept of leading a lynch train, or completing a lynch, are completely foreign to me. I can't place the first or last vote on anyone. Doing so has deliciously ambiguous bad consequences. So for my own safety I've been regularly abstaining from pretty much all voting up to this point.

However, right now, I am highly suspicious of Celina, knowing myself to be survivor, and Lorick, though the latter is simply because of Celina's arguments.
Unknown2009-09-16 15:45:04
QUOTE (Furien @ Sep 16 2009, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think right now it's best that I speak up due to increasing suspicions that I, being the strongest, am most open to Mima's possession without anyone suspecting such a thing.


Indeed, this is where my concerns did rest. It would be difficult to argue that your character isn't, perhaps, the most ridiculed in the series, with her notoriety almost solely coming from her being treated as an utter joke. Quite a bit of fuel to be motivated by.

I appreciate that you have decided to be as open on the matter as possible, and doubtless, this is why up until recently you have been reluctant to reveal any of the details in regards to your identity. Proper credit should be granted where it is due.

Serella, can you confirm that the key has been stolen of recent? I have lost track with these time slips. It has been implied, but your last post didn't clarify.

And I do believe we haven't heard much from either Daganev or Zetsu lately. AtS, too, has been quiet apart from his quip at Celina's latest release. If you are reading along, would you mind expressing your thoughts on the current situation?
Daganev2009-09-16 16:50:11
I am tempted to revert the day back to dawn.

After dawn, I'd like to see Othero card battle Shaddus.

Or at the very least, I'd like to see Celina destroy shaddus.

If shaddus is not Kagurya, then we should lynch Othero for obviously lying to us.

If Othero is innocent, I suggest a lynch on Lorick.

Thoughts?
Unknown2009-09-16 17:36:21
Trying to battle Shaddus wouldn't work since he hasn't shown up. If you mean battle his replacement, I don't think we are going to get one in a timely manner. I don't have anything against Celina attacking Shaddus, but Celina herself was against it last I checked.

I don't think Othero has lied about anything.
Daganev2009-09-16 17:39:58
QUOTE (Xikue @ Sep 16 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trying to battle Shaddus wouldn't work since he hasn't shown up. If you mean battle his replacement, I don't think we are going to get one in a timely manner. I don't have anything against Celina attacking Shaddus, but Celina herself was against it last I checked.

I don't think Othero has lied about anything.


If Othero is t elling the truth, then he will win the card battle by defualt since it's a special card battle case.
Unknown2009-09-16 18:46:25
QUOTE (daganev @ Sep 16 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Othero is t elling the truth, then he will win the card battle by defualt since it's a special card battle case.


No. If I'm telling the truth then I run the risk of killing myself. I've done pretty much what I've can to try to avoid this situation. I showed you what my role was early off so that you would realize I'm town and I could avoid accidently killing myself or another townie.
Arix2009-09-16 20:13:41
Oh man, someone thinks I'm mafia? I gotta read this
Arix2009-09-16 20:19:28
Othero, shenanigans would have ensued by now if I was mafia. If Tekora had given me the power I did and told me I was mafia,my next reaction after the WTF would be something along the lines of 'let's reopen the goody bag'
Daganev2009-09-16 20:58:49
QUOTE (Othero @ Sep 16 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No. If I'm telling the truth then I run the risk of killing myself. I've done pretty much what I've can to try to avoid this situation. I showed you what my role was early off so that you would realize I'm town and I could avoid accidently killing myself or another townie.


Then Celina can kill Shaddus and we will see.

But right now we have your claim that Kaguyra (sp?) exists, and only Shaddus left who might be said person.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:32:03
I'm guessing we didn't get a newspaper from AtS (Aya) because whoever he was looking into didn't do anything during the night.

To narrow down Shaddus's role to Kaguya assumes (1) Kaguya exists and (2) Zetsu really is Marisa. A card battle against Shaddus or Zetsu won't really help with either assumption.

This is how I see the current scenario. Mima has followers and her spirit has moved from Yuka to someone else. Nothing happened last night, so either someone interfered with the night kill or no night kill action was sent in. We were given over 24 hours to send in night actions.
For interference: Our protector, Shiri (Chen) is out. Lorick, who did you roleblock last night?
For no night kill action: Scum intentionally passing on a night kill does not sound like the best of strategies, which leads me to think whoever can perform the night kill was absent. Naturally I think of Shaddus.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:36:12
QUOTE (Xikue @ Sep 16 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm guessing we didn't get a newspaper from AtS (Aya) because whoever he was looking into didn't do anything during the night.

That's correct. Since we're past night, I can say who I watched - Zetsu - and he didn't do anything interesting, hence no paper this morning. I really am trying to get us something newsworthy, but it's hard!

I'm still really partial to just eliminating Shaddus. People keep saying the mod is going to replace him, but I just don't think there's anyone willing to commit to this midway through. Just my opinion, though.
Lorick2009-09-16 22:45:31
I roleblocked Vendetta, meaning that if he has the spirit, his attempt at nightkilling was foiled by that.
Lorick2009-09-16 22:49:50
Also, for the reading disabled. Vendetta said -

QUOTE
If we lynch Yuka now, Mima might go all out on Twilight and Night. Unless Daganev can advance time again, this would be bad.


This is an arguement that lynching Yuka (Kira) would be harmful to the town. This is not a townie arguement. This is the arguement of someone attempting to keep someone around. Othero isn't likely to be scum anymore than Shiri was Daganev. You don't really have any basis for that claim from what I've seen. I've fought hard for this town, not that they care, and Celina only attempted to kill me after I pointed out Vendetta's false logic. They are working together, can we at least please lynch one today. I promise it will vendicate me.
Lorick2009-09-16 22:51:33
If it doesn't then by all means string me up.
Lorick2009-09-16 22:55:56
I'm that certain we will get a scum out of this. Can any of you make that call?
Lorick2009-09-16 23:49:37
Oh yeah, I knew was feeling suspicious about Furien's voting habits for some reason. Celina isn't a survivor, she is a killer. Vendetta claimed Survivor like powers near the start of the game, meaning we have two "survivor" power sets active.

Celina's arguements? She doesn't have one, she just lies and says it didn't happen. It did, above quote.
Lorick2009-09-16 23:52:32
Although, why come foward with the powers Furien? You were under no threat, ect. I appreciate it since it helps my case against Celina and Vendetta, but you could of kept quiet. Although, if we finish of the scum it sounds like your win condition would fire.
Unknown2009-09-17 01:23:14
It's really hard to read multiple posts by the same person, so could you try to string them together? tongue.gif

If I remember correctly, Vendetta claimed the virtue of a small hitbox for her avoidance, which I can get behind in concept. I'm curious as to whether this was in action only during the period of weakness, or if it's an inherent power all the time - also, do you have any other powers? Since Yuka is gone and we've established that Mima isn't a character, but a spirit, it should be safe to reveal this.

Since we're on the topic, what are the chances that Kiradawea's revelation of info regarding Reimu's ying-yang orbs is also bs, along with the reflowering 'goal'? I was thinking that Mima could have revealed that to her when asked for advice, and that we'll have a corporeal Mima if Reimu dies. But then that begs the question of who triggered Twilight.. Fair enough, though, these can probably be explained by the following:


QUOTE (Yuka's role reveal)
Mima's Spirit -

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Anyway, still think it's a bad idea to lynch Vendetta. I can get behind a lynch for Celina if Serella didn't let her out, though.
Lorick2009-09-17 01:44:43
She didn't, least not the first time unless she was lying about the key being stolen.