Unknown2009-09-17 03:59:36
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 16 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, you are right, I'm frustrated with the town's inability to do anything but lynch lurkers because it's "Safe". I've looked over the events with Celina with a slightly cooler head, and everything she has done has been engineered to attract attention and votes. In fact, I'm willing to believe her about the day kill, considering Arix's action went on top of her's, rendering it imposible. If she truely had one, should could of easily used it now or before when she was free. So, I'm changing my opinion to my orginal one where in Celina is most likely a Jester, where if we attempt to kill her she kills the town and wins.
Unvote : Celina
Unvote : Celina
Ohhhhh, that could make a lot of sense. A jester makes sense.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:02:20
It was my initial suspicion, but it changed when she "attempted" to kill me. She hasn't attempted again though, and technically she could have a day kill still, sooo.. Yeah, back to square one. Jester.
Celina2009-09-17 04:12:28
QUOTE (daganev @ Sep 16 2009, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because your insane rantings make no sense.
See, Lorick? Clearly it's not just me.
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 16 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, you are right, I'm frustrated with the town's inability to do anything but lynch lurkers because it's "Safe". I've looked over the events with Celina with a slightly cooler head, and everything she has done has been engineered to attract attention and votes. In fact, I'm willing to believe her about the day kill, considering Arix's action went on top of her's, rendering it imposible. If she truely had one, should could of easily used it now or before when she was free. So, I'm changing my opinion to my orginal one where in Celina is most likely a Jester, where if we attempt to kill her she kills the town and wins.
Unvote : Celina
Unvote : Celina
You bounce all over the place. You've been so adamant about me being scum for one reason or the other.
I really do want you out of the game. Fake killing you worked in so far as you did freak out like I had hoped, just no one is willing to vote for you. To be fair, I agree you could be town...just horribly misguided town who refuses to let go of anything and hammers in nonsense.
At any rate, I just don't think killing Shaddus will accomplish anything. I mean, if he turns out to be scum it'll be by pure luck, but eh. I'm content that people aren't actually listening to Lorick at this point as no one is following his crazy train.
unvote
vote: Shaddus
Don't think we'll get anything else out of this day.
As an aside: Wasn't I a jester it Daganev's game a while back?
Unknown2009-09-17 04:15:36
Also, to be clear, you keep using the term lurker when we speak of lynching Shaddus. Shaddus is not a lurker. Shaddus does not exist.
Unknown2009-09-17 04:17:46
And yes I agree it makes the day somewhat of a wash, but it confirms Othero at least, and right now there's too much bickering to see any other viable targets.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:19:22
Heh, you started out targetting me for no reason other than I was actually putting forth ideas. Lynching Shaddus isn't going to net us scum, and I'm not going to support lynching some random non-com just because people can't make up there minds when I'm fairly certain he isn't scum. To be honest, anyone avocating a throw away lynch at this point is doing so because they aren't willing to look elsewhere. It's sad to be honest.
As I said before, Celina's goal in the end was getting in a townie lynch. Either in me or in an afk. She denied it, and here she is voting for it..
As I said before, Celina's goal in the end was getting in a townie lynch. Either in me or in an afk. She denied it, and here she is voting for it..
Furien2009-09-17 04:19:47
That way I see it, we have two general unknowns- Zetsu and Shaddus.
Zetsu, likely, is Marisa.
And with Arix appearing to be Yukari, what can Shaddus possibly? Not many town characters that I can think of. He's bound to be some sort of scum. So why not take the safe way out?
Zetsu, likely, is Marisa.
And with Arix appearing to be Yukari, what can Shaddus possibly? Not many town characters that I can think of. He's bound to be some sort of scum. So why not take the safe way out?
Lorick2009-09-17 04:22:37
The opposition to Othero is a townie power role most likely. Since Shaddus is the only unconfirmed, and Othero has put forth this name that hasn't come up yet, and I have yet to see any reason to view Othero as mafia, this would mean Shaddus was that role. Thus a bad idea to lynch.
Unknown2009-09-17 04:23:16
Much too jumpy, Lorick. The way Othero's been piggybacking on your posts has me suspicious, too - now that we've more or less established the rolenames of nearly everyone alive, we need to eliminate those we're unsure of/are inactive in case they've been the ones holding up the scum kills. Referring to Shaddus here, obviously, and Llandros to a smaller extent. Then again, I can think of another explanation why there hasn't been a kill; Vendetta's avoidance has been foiling scum nightkills, which would mean they stand to gain something significant with her death, which in turns means we do not want her dead.
Anyway, yeah, safest way out here would be to lynch Shaddus, and hope that our investigator, if any, isn't one of the inactives. And that Aya gets us a good scoop tomorrow morning.
Anyway, yeah, safest way out here would be to lynch Shaddus, and hope that our investigator, if any, isn't one of the inactives. And that Aya gets us a good scoop tomorrow morning.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:24:18
Vendetta hasn't been the target of any kill attempts.
Unknown2009-09-17 04:26:45
How do you know that?
Celina2009-09-17 04:27:31
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 16 2009, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heh, you started out targetting me for no reason other than I was actually putting forth ideas. Lynching Shaddus isn't going to net us scum, and I'm not going to support lynching some random non-com just because people can't make up there minds when I'm fairly certain he isn't scum. To be honest, anyone avocating a throw away lynch at this point is doing so because they aren't willing to look elsewhere. It's sad to be honest.
As I said before, Celina's goal in the end was getting in a townie lynch. Either in me or in an afk. She denied it, and here she is voting for it..
As I said before, Celina's goal in the end was getting in a townie lynch. Either in me or in an afk. She denied it, and here she is voting for it..
Your thought process is so convoluted. I really hope you are scum and purposefully trying to sound completely nuts. I'm very curious to see which side of the coin you are on.
I repeat, I disagree with the Shaddus lynch as he's a non entity, but it appears that is the direction we are headed regardless so I won't stand in the way of progress.
Question, Furien. I thought it was stated very early on it was not possible to discover allegiances based on character names.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:31:25
Might as well come clean. My powers work like this. I get two roleblocks to use, one during the day and one during the night. They refresh at the rate of 1 per day/night, and I can't use both on the same phase. They don't refresh on twilight. If I have a spare left when I use the power it alerts me to any actions taken against person in question. I roleblocked Salvation night 1, had a charge left, no targets, and Vendetta again last night. When I roleblocked Kira one Night 2 however I had already used a charge and only got a normal roleblock. I'm a roleblock/tracker.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:32:36
Which was one of the reasons I figure that Arix sort of figured me out with his questions of if I was an investigator.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:32:54
And he didn't out me to scum.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:34:08
Note even with his role revealed there have been no attempts to night kill Vendetta on the last night.
Lorick2009-09-17 04:34:59
Hopefully this helps you all understand my concern a bit more.
Celina2009-09-17 04:36:30
No, not really.
Unknown2009-09-17 04:39:45
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 16 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Might as well come clean. My powers work like this. I get two roleblocks to use, one during the day and one during the night. They refresh at the rate of 1 per day/night, and I can't use both on the same phase. They don't refresh on twilight. If I have a spare left when I use the power it alerts me to any actions taken against person in question. I roleblocked Salvation night 1, had a charge left, no targets, and Vendetta again last night. When I roleblocked Kira one Night 2 however I had already used a charge and only got a normal roleblock. I'm a roleblock/tracker.
You seem to have forgotten something, Lorick.
QUOTE
Mima's Wrath - This is your Mafia Nightkill. Choose a person to kill at night by sending me a PM saying 'MIMA, KILL '. Mima's spirit will then leave your body, possess your target, and cause them to kill themselves in what will most likely be a quite gruesome manner. This manner of nightkilling is undetectable by watchers, but will be stopped if the target is protected that night.
In addition to that, if I were to evade the kill... would the evasion of it even be detectable? There seems to be double variables working against you here.
Celina2009-09-17 04:41:02
Wait, you roleblocked Kira on night 2, how would you know what happened to Vendetta on the last night?