Is there anyone you are not suspicious of, just out of curiosity ze~.

Welcome to mafia.

Maybe Lorick is a survivor that has convinced himself he's the only townie.

Yet another post without any sort of points to back up her opinions. Oh well, too high a bar I guess.

Oh god, it was a joke. What is wrong with you?

I'm reading a 40-page print out.

Bastards.

Seriously, can we lynch Lorick? At worst he is scum who is doing his best to get us to lynch townies with his pretzel logic. At best he is a townie who is going to stall the game for us until we lose.

I'm a soulless heartless -------- of course.

Yes. Yes please. I've been pushing this for a long time.

How has Vendetta proved himself to be town? How was any of the points he put forth made reasonible for a townie to suggest? The only person I've really put forth all this time to get lynched has been Vendetta, and I have a five post set of reasons why which no one has been able to refute yet. How does my behaviour clear him of his? Othero, I expected better from you.

That's the issue though. I am not positive if Vendetta is town. However, he isn't scummy to me. You're constantly going on that he said we shouldn't lynch Kira. But you're wrong. We had Kira confirmed as scum and so it gave us a day to play with. She was showing she didn't have any day powers that were threatening to us so he wanted us to wait and use all the we could during the day to see if we could flush someone else out. He hasn't shown himself to be that scummy and people are not going to vote with you. I'm not sure how to get it through your head but the longer you are clamped down on him and unwilling to budge the longer you're going to hurt the town. People don't want to vote for Vendetta right now and you're not going to get those votes. All you're doing is stalling our progress and not letting us move forward with looking at other people as possible scum. If you're not going to let go of Vendetta for a bit then I want to lynch you because you're hurting the town.

Since I forgot to make note of it earlier, I think I will before I get ready to head out for the evening.

Xikue!

If you get any confirmation on how often you can swing your sword, and you wish to take another shot, I'm giving my consent to swing at me as much as you care to. Granted, you probably shouldn't if it is limited, but I thought I'd put this out there in case you consider it. Don't need to ask me again.

Okay. I'll say this clearly: I think Vendetta is town. I think Lorick is town. Until there is an undeniable slew of evidence from the mod/our investigative elements that says one or the other is definitely scum, I suggest we leave the two alone for now. Would it be possible for us to move on from here?

Personally, I'm starting to have my doubts about Othero's allegiance despite supporting him earlier because he was so willing to be lynched to clear himself - there's something vaguely opportunistic about his posts that's pinging my er.. suspicion-dar. Does anyone else notice this?

That aside, Celina, do you or do you not know who let you out in in all instances?

And of course, we're waiting for Bali's input after he's done with the pages he's printed out.

Note, one person can hardly stop 13 others from doing what they want when they only need 8. You can claim I'm holding up the town, but I can assure you if the people being voted for had a majority (Bali, Me, and Vendetta) it would of happened already. I'm not hurting the town by staying on someone who has shown signs of being scum. No one knew for certain Kira didn't have a day kill, hence the whole "Othero, please card fight her" arguement. And that didn't work. One of his arguements was against revealing more than 1 scum during a day, then he switches tracks and avocates keeping Kira around to prevent Twilights. This wasn't "a day to play with" since the reasoning he was putting forth was we shouldn't lynch her so she could target another area and attempt to prevent a night action.

You. Kira had already proven herself not town (though I was thinking survivor with alt win condition at the time), and you were doing what you do. You seem(ed) really jumpy and hoppy, so I thought I would look into you.

Also,

UNVOTE SHADDUS/BALIZAR

Thank god we got one replacement.

I have my guesses about who it was, but I don't know

Can we have your guesses, in that case?

Hmmm, I'm wondering about part of my role as it is lacking information on this. Bali, how against you and me card battling are you?

It's be unsupported finger pointing.

I'm keeping it to myself because I don't want to lead anyone down a path.

We could really use some paths, honestly. If no one is freely taking responsibility for letting you out (and if any of you did, do speak up so that we can decide whether or not to pursue this) and you're town like you say, chances are that they're scum trying to stir up confusion.