Touhou Mafia

by Tekora

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Celina2009-09-18 03:27:45
QUOTE (Silferras @ Sep 17 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is that if it were a townie releasing Flandre to get more voting power on the town's side, they wouldn't lose anything by coming out with the information that they did do it. And Serella is our townie release-person, which leads me to think it's unlikely we have two townie release-people and none for scum. It looks like a good lead, just that you're unwilling/unable to give us information on it.


You've already dubbed said person scum. Seems like a reason not for them to come out and say it to me.

As I said, it's not a lead. I'm not in the business of arbitrarily naming people when under pressure.
Celina2009-09-18 03:28:51
There we have it. Look at all the support to lynch Lorick. Be he scum or crazed townie.

vote: Lorick
Celina2009-09-18 03:29:09
vote: lorick

oopsies
Arix2009-09-18 03:29:48
OMG CELINA CONSOLIDATE
Lorick2009-09-18 03:29:57
It has all of my arguements listed in order of time progression. Celina had been constantly stating falsely that the events on that page didn't happen and has not since I posted it. Vendetta claimed he was being misrepresented but I have him admitting it was a mistake and his stance quite clearly. It is not my fault if people are trouble with it. Also, I fail to see how lynching someone to achieve progression will help the town when by most of those involved have their own omission of their feelings as to my faction. Do you seriously think scum are going to be less than adamant about their innocence? The problem with a lack of majority is not attributed to me alone but most likely from each of the various factions (Daganev, Celina, Me).

Daganev had attempted to get Othero to off either himself or Bali in a card battle and reach a majority vote on someone who wasn't even here. I stepped in and called him on it. Celina has been after me since the start of Day 3, failed to reach a majority, switched gears to Bali, backed off of Bali and is now following that tide back to me. She has failed to provide any sort of insight into whom she feels the scum are, same as Vendetta, but has attempted to lynch me on the solo basis of "He posts alot". This isn't an arguement, and should never be treated as such by anyone. I've been attempting to get a majority on Vendetta, pg 57 has all of my reasons and there are many and no one has yet refuted them, I switched to Celina due to the fact for a moment I thought she had attempted to murder me in front of the town and a majority of the town was just "Eh, she is a townie" without any basis or reasoning. However, after reviewing her actions I began to believe she was most likely some version of a Jester, removed my vote, and when the town bogged itself down again attempting to murder Bali I went back onto Vendetta as I could not in good play support the lynch of someone I had reason to believe was most likely town and was unable to defend themselves.

I'm sorry if you feel somehow wronged by the fact I stick to my convictions and do not like to waver without reason. I don't mind compromising, but Celina would rather have the town lynch an investigative role for no reason and I'm troubled by the sheer number of people who keep endorsing that unbased logic. People it seems don't want an arguement, a theory, or hell even a plan, but would rather go with whatever allows them the least amount of thought. And there is nothing I can do for that, or have any effect on causing, so don't attempt to smear me for your own inability to back up your statements.
Arix2009-09-18 03:32:25
It doesn't matter to me who we lynch, since I'm unlikely to survive night, but I would obviously much rather lynch scum than a townie
Unknown2009-09-18 03:33:17
No one has anything to say to the fact that I'm Kaguya?
Lorick2009-09-18 03:34:08
There are many targets for the scum right now Arix, I wouldn't sell yourself short. If anything, if Daganev's actions helped the town, he would be a priority target.
Lorick2009-09-18 03:35:07
I do, thank you for vindicating me and shame on everyone else who attempted the lynch, just as soon as we have it confirmed via spellcard tomorrow or today of Daganev reverses time.
Unknown2009-09-18 03:36:47
I would dub said person scum if they didn't say that they did. Arix has volunteered his own information, and I'm not about to jump on him for it. It does look like we have several people with the ability to release you, however.

Another thought just occurred to me: it was mentioned in Yuka's role, iirc, that Mima's spirit promised her the destruction of her rival Yukari. How plausible would it be for Mima to be able to inhabit either Mokou or Kaguya with the same kind of reasoning?
Unknown2009-09-18 03:38:43
I'm so confused D:
Unknown2009-09-18 03:41:07
QUOTE (Silferras @ Sep 17 2009, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would dub said person scum if they didn't say that they did. Arix has volunteered his own information, and I'm not about to jump on him for it. It does look like we have several people with the ability to release you, however.

Another thought just occurred to me: it was mentioned in Yuka's role, iirc, that Mima's spirit promised her the destruction of her rival Yukari. How plausible would it be for Mima to be able to inhabit either Mokou or Kaguya with the same kind of reasoning?


Possible, I guess. Though, and obviously I'm saying this to defend myself, I feel like you're grasping at straws a bit. You could come up with things Mimi could promise a lot of the characters.
Unknown2009-09-18 03:42:07
I dont like being ignored, Othero.

Unknown2009-09-18 03:43:00
Just trying to come up with a better possible lead and/or plan of action, since the Lorick/Vendetta thing is stalling everything. I don't suppose anyone has anything else useful to contribute to the discussion?
Unknown2009-09-18 03:43:05
QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ Sep 17 2009, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont like being ignored, Othero.


Go die in a fire. Breaking my father's heart, you bastard.
Lorick2009-09-18 03:43:06
It's possible, but Othero was pretty openly willing to put himself out there on Day 1. So I'm inclined to disagree with him being scum and I've defending him many times on this basis from various others, who mysteriously are in my top four. Bali is a new factor, we don't really know anything about him beyond the name, which we can confirm via spellcard. However, lets say Shaddus had been scum, it would of been quite easy to go after Othero if neccessary. Medicine actually went out of her way to roleblock Othero and while I'm not certain I don't recall Shaddus ever voting for Othero. This leads me to believe they are both at the very least not part of the organized scum group attempting to finish a lynch and waste us a day on an immortal.
Unknown2009-09-18 03:44:59
Actually, Bali, does your role say if you will rez if we card battle? I've been thinking about it and I could be wrong about it killing us. It might just kill us for the day, I really don't know. I'm also a bit too nervous to take that chance.
Unknown2009-09-18 03:45:10
Someone fill this out with past claims/actions. Keep it unbiased?

CODE
2. Furien
3. Llandros
5. Celina
7. Othero
8. Silferras
10. Zetsu
12. AllergictoSabres
13. Arix
14. Lorick
15. Serella
17. Xikue
18. Vendetta Morendo
19. Daganev


Also, votecount?
Lorick2009-09-18 03:45:22
How about this, I'll put forth a plan a town shouldn't have any problems with. We don't really know anything about Zetsu, how about we get to 2 away? Should be no reason to disagree, really, as we don't have a spellcard battle to back us and he claimed no powers, which hasn't existed in this game so far.
Unknown2009-09-18 03:45:32
Oh, good point on Medicine roleblocking him, it completely slipped my mind. My bad.