Touhou Mafia

by Tekora

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Lorick2009-09-21 11:51:03
He has this thing from the first mafia game we played. I basically got Othero to defend him and then turned the tables on the both of them by getting Arix lynched (Scum) and then getting the town to waste the most crucial night killing Othero (Town). Nothing I really say or do can be trusted by him (Good thing in a mafia game) but he likes voting for me for little or no reasons (bad thing in a mafia game). Like he said, I'm his Shaddus, although to be fair it seems like Arix has quite a few people like that. Hope that helps.
Shiri2009-09-21 12:02:27
Well Bali, can you do that tomorrow then? I just can't buy that we have two completely invincible townies with the ability to kill each other. Even if you're not scum, Othero probably is and there's no point making us waste lynch attempts on him if he's telling the truth about that part.

We can get Vendetta and or Zetsu before then and immediately after then so all those bases are covered. Then we can confirm Serella as Remi and figure out the last part from there if we haven't already won by then.

Got 2 votes on Vendetta now, let's get some more.
Lorick2009-09-21 12:38:48
I understand your reasoning that there shouldn't be too townie immortals, but do you have any other reason to suspect either Bali or Othero?
Shiri2009-09-21 13:01:31
In Othero's case, hating Eientei's leader is a black mark.
Lorick2009-09-21 13:07:13
Wouldn't the same logic apply to us for voting for Vendetta though?
Lorick2009-09-21 13:08:00
Oh wait, you mean as a roleplay guide. Sorry, didn't catch that until after posting.
Lorick2009-09-21 13:14:26
I could buy that as a reason for joining up with Mima. She seems to feed off of personal conflicts, manipulating people's desires. It would also help explain Othero's jumping around the votes yesterday. He normally plays a more solid game in whom he suspects or votes for. However, risking either one in a card battle could result in a death of the townie one (If there is a scum) or death by card battle and then loss by lynching if there isn't. We would basically have to commit ourselves to killing both if one dies in a card battle and shows up town. There has to be a better way to check. Shiri, what would you say is the estimated size of the mafia given all the roles we've uncovered so far?
Shiri2009-09-21 13:16:11
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Lorick2009-09-21 13:22:21
Ok, so by that logic we have two mafia members running around. One of them would be hosting the Spirit, which was immune to my roleblock attempts during the day and which sent back a pm to me stating such. I theorized it was Day Action Immunity, but I couldn't be certain. So far, I've checked Vendetta who resisted it but I did not recieve a pm back and Zetsu who didn't resist. I'm fairly certain right now that Zetsu isn't hosting the Spirit.

What I propose is we go through the list of everyone who hasn't been struck during the day, with the most suspicious and onward. We have Xihue who has a day action which we don't know if it is affected by the Spirit and we have me. I'm sure we have other day power users. We can knock out our suspects quite quickly this way by using powers that aren't limited until we locate the mafia leader. However, this leaves a floating member whom these investigations will fly over. I think for this one we should work on our lynches and suspicions until we locate someone immune to day.

Do you disagree or find any logical issues with this plan? IE, a loophole.
Shiri2009-09-21 13:30:54
Huh? I don't really get most of what you said. Seems like the plan is pretty straightforward. Bali wipes Othero, we remove Vendetta and or Zetsu, see if we win, and if not move on from there to you, Allergic, and Serella.
Unknown2009-09-21 13:32:53
QUOTE (Shiri @ Sep 21 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes we do, because we already had two spellcard battles. There's an artificial limit.


Daganev has implied he can still affect time, so returning us to the start of the day would restore the two card battles that have been used. Granted, if Bali and Othero aren't keen, then there's probably not much point.
Lorick2009-09-21 13:33:18
I'm saying we could be doing more. Whomever is the mafia godfather is immune to actions during the day, or at least roleblocks. We can use powers to check for the godfather in addition to the normal lynch/move/lynch actions.
Unknown2009-09-21 13:41:00
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 21 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, so by that logic we have two mafia members running around. One of them would be hosting the Spirit, which was immune to my roleblock attempts during the day and which sent back a pm to me stating such. I theorized it was Day Action Immunity, but I couldn't be certain. So far, I've checked Vendetta who resisted it but I did not recieve a pm back and Zetsu who didn't resist. I'm fairly certain right now that Zetsu isn't hosting the Spirit.


My battle with Zetsu also indicates that I do not possess roleblock immunity, for whatever that observation might be worth.
Lorick2009-09-21 13:47:11
I'm fairly certain that spellcards are operating on different rules than standard immunities, but I don't have anything to back that statement up with. For example, we have Sabre with immunity to spellcards.
Unknown2009-09-21 13:49:30
Hrm? I'm supposed to go around with my ghost-killing sword now? I suppose Yuyuko-sama is the only ghost other than Mima, so Roukanken shouldn't be harmful to any youkai. I'd rather targets were selected carefully though.
Lorick2009-09-21 13:52:11
I don't disagree. We can divide up the duty as we go once the next day is reached. I'll target someone, and you can target another.
Unknown2009-09-21 14:00:07
Well, I'm not sure how this will work out. I still have doubts about Vendetta, but I guess we'll see. We have to be getting close to rooting the last of them out, and with the card battles tomorrow and what not that should help. Also I hope my newspaper gets published again tomorrow. It's been rather boring since reporting on Lorick!

VOTE VENDETTA
Unknown2009-09-21 14:03:20
QUOTE (Xikue @ Sep 21 2009, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd rather targets were selected carefully though.


How much more careful does it need to be? I take it you have reasons for thinking the suggested targets thus far are insufficient.
Unknown2009-09-21 17:36:51
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Sep 21 2009, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How much more careful does it need to be? I take it you have reasons for thinking the suggested targets thus far are insufficient.

By careful I mean some consensus. I have nothing against the proposed targets, but not many have given their input. The main reason I ask for caution is because I have little information on what these swords do. Before it was used on Zetsu, I wouldn't have guessed cutting through a person's confusion meant countering a roleblock.
There's also the number of uses to consider. Unlike Eirin's potions, I wasn't given a number. If Roukanken turns out to pose a threat to scum, my days might be limited. (Or we could play hot potato with a sword. Whee.)
Unknown2009-09-21 18:13:41
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Sep 21 2009, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I'm not sure how this will work out. I still have doubts about Vendetta, but I guess we'll see. We have to be getting close to rooting the last of them out, and with the card battles tomorrow and what not that should help. Also I hope my newspaper gets published again tomorrow. It's been rather boring since reporting on Lorick!

VOTE VENDETTA

Vote Vendetta

Who did you investigate last night?