Should Raiding Be Curbed?

by Estarra

Back to Common Grounds.

Romero2009-08-29 22:08:01
I suggested this a long time ago on envoys and have said it around before.

We have villages and regular raids for zerg fights.

Make it so that Domoths can only be held by 1 individual. 1 Domoth per Demigod/Ascendant.

Demigods/Ascendants can challenge for the Domoth at anytime that the holder is online and it starts a 1 on 1 fight between the two fighters for control of the Domoth. Winner takes the Domoth (put a timer on it so they are not repeatedly challenged over and over). This allows 1 on 1 fights that all the pkers so crave, its a show of skill as only Demigods/Ascendents will hold the thrones.

Make harmony or justice for debates or an influence contest between the contestants so we can have something for the noncoms.

As stated, 1 per demigod/ascendant. Once Thoros or whoever gets whined about owns his throne, he can't own another or challenge for another.


Domoths should be a demigod/ascendant game. Late game material that prides itself on top tier fighting/influencing/debating whatever your game may be. We don't need another event for zergs/demense/shrine effects.

It even provides a nice roleplay ring to it as a holder who holds the domoth because the Demigod of death or whatever their domoth may be as they hold onto it. I also suggested specific roleplay flavor powers that make being the domoth holder something more like... domoth life holder being able to rezz, domoth chaos holder can racechange, blah blah
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Another idea. Global challenge system. Issue an open challenge to someone throughout the realm for all to see. Gets tiring of people talking trash about blah blah blah, I ran because this and that. Or 'you can only fight me in groups' and then you offer a duel and they don't do it. Timer of course so it isn't spammed.

Final idea. Combat rankings spars can't be forced, no one has to agree to spar you so they can just look like the number one fighter if they get tons of points and refuse to fight anyone else. This leads to lots of noob fighters looking like the number one person. Make these challenges global once again (combat challenge soandso avenger) and make it so if they do not respond to it there points takes a toll.
Xenthos2009-08-29 22:08:37
Trans planar: Make gateweaving/destroying take 1/4 of the time! And stacks with the needle!
Kelysa2009-08-29 22:09:40
I think if we can curb the raids with no real objective but PK with people who don't PK then we're pretty golden. (Especially very small groups of raids.) All your ideas have some merit! Not sure about avenger everywhere. But insanity/defending mobs and the protector guardian thing are all very interesting.
Shaddus2009-08-29 22:10:31
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Aug 29 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trans planar: Make gateweaving/destroying take 1/4 of the time! And stacks with the needle!

This.
Shaddus2009-08-29 22:13:48
QUOTE (Estarra @ Aug 29 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let Avenger protect all planes, not just prime

Please no. This defeats the purpose of Avechna in the first place, and would make raids/conflict nonexsistant, making Lusternia into one big chatroom. I can see it now.


(This is in no way meant to suggest someone from the named commune would say/do such a thing.)

QUOTE
Serenwilde: Viynain says, "Narsrim is up here killing Ladies."
Serenwilde: Kelysa says, "Send a few novices up there, if he kills them we can call Avechna and peace his ass."
Unknown2009-08-29 22:14:03
For Trans Planar, teleport nexus from any plane, including Muud, Spirit Plane and Aetherspace.
Xiel2009-08-29 22:14:04
I like the protector guardian thing a lot, really. Besides the whole combat in giant robots thing, it'd save the hassle of only one defender going up to defend against a group of four alone by putting him in a guardian which hits fairly hard against the raiders and can be attacked by the raiders with normal bashing attacks. Yes, a cap on how many guardians can be summoned would be put in would probably be good so that a normal, actual raid with a purpose won't get overwhelmed by 20 of these things.

/random
Furien2009-08-29 22:14:49
nononononono on extending Avenger anywhere outside of Prime. No. System is badly flawed enough as is.

If someone attacks you in enemy territory and you kill them in self defense, they become the victim. You become their Suspect. This allows them to come back into enemy territory and attack you without you ever being able to do anything back to them. Imagine how that would work in the case of enemy planes? Gag.
Unknown2009-08-29 22:15:14
Superconglut for demis/ascendants as a trans skill is fine too. Hey you can even have it work on prime for high energy reserves, why not.

Some people have tossed around doubling the power you get from linking/coning from objects too as a trans skill.

I like Iytha's idea too though.
Nyir2009-08-29 22:16:37
Trans planar idea: a person can use their org's nexus to get to any plane associated with their org. Could possibly extend this to astral spheres tied to the org, too, so communes could make use of this.
Furien2009-08-29 22:16:56
^Yes that would be hot.

Also, the idea of 1v1ing for Domoths is something I hate, simply because it's going to usually require me to be omnitrans and artie'd up.
Xenthos2009-08-29 22:17:27
QUOTE (Sojiro @ Aug 29 2009, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Superconglut for demis/ascendants as a trans skill is fine too.

Superconglut: Demis/Ascendants will actually conglutinate.

Prime Conglutination: You can now conglutinate on Prime!
Unknown2009-08-29 22:18:37
QUOTE (Nyir @ Aug 29 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trans planar idea: a person can use their org's nexus to get to any plane associated with their org. Could possibly extend this to astral spheres tied to the org, too, so communes could make use of this.

This plus the "Teleport to prime Nexus from anywhere at all" idea I suggested.

Edit: Alternatively a verson of TOUCH CUBIX that takes 10 power and 20 seconds of EQ. The Cubix is instant and doesn't cost power.
Shaddus2009-08-29 22:19:32
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Aug 29 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prime Conglutination: You can now conglutinate on Prime!

LOL.

Wait.... chin.gif

I could see that. Make conglute around Expert, maybe Fabled. Primelink could be the trans skill, but maybe you have to activate it for X power, and afterwards you conglute if you die on prime.
Estarra2009-08-29 22:25:00
I'm not really sure if some of the trans planar suggestions are really worth gaining trans for (fast gateweaving?). What's super conglute?
Xenthos2009-08-29 22:28:57
QUOTE (Estarra @ Aug 29 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not really sure if some of the trans planar suggestions are really worth gaining trans for (fast gateweaving?). What's super conglute?

Fast gateweaving would be really, really nice. There were already a lot of comments from people like Xiel who would love it. I would, as well. Maybe not a trans skill, but it would be great to have it regardless.

Super conglut would basically let Demigods/Ascendants conglut (50k essence from the death, then another 50k to reform at the Nexus without having to phoenix / reform / reincarnate). Since it is kind of weird to have a skill that... can't be used. (Not because it's not good, but because it just doesn't work for you since you leveled).
Sarrasri2009-08-29 22:32:06
I like the transversing idea. It'd help warriors and bards in the cities, and it could be a way to get to astral for communes. I don't bother with gateweaving enough to care about how fast I do or don't do it.
Unknown2009-08-29 22:32:42
I would absolutely love being able to gateweave in 5-10 minutes. It would be really really awesome, because right now gateweaving is boring and makes me sad.
Estarra2009-08-29 22:33:24
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Aug 29 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Super conglut would basically let Demigods/Ascendants conglut (50k essence from the death, then another 50k to reform at the Nexus without having to phoenix / reform / reincarnate). Since it is kind of weird to have a skill that... can't be used. (Not because it's not good, but because it just doesn't work for you since you leveled).


I really don't think it's that big of a deal if the trans skill isn't usable for demigods/ascendants--they have lots of perks especially when it comes to dying. However, a trans skill that only works for demigods/ascendants doesn't seem like a great idea to me.
Unknown2009-08-29 22:36:07
How about the teleport to the planar fulcrux idea, the transverse to any connected plane regardless of class idea or the teleport nexus from every plane idea?