Daganev2009-09-30 06:31:49
I'd like to hear more thoughts from the following people before we move forward. It's barely been 48 hours.
Furien 11
AllergictoSabres 11
casilu 10
Vendetta Morendo 10
Jack 4
Zynna 2
Solanis 1
Silferras 1
Surely, some of these people have better suggestions than mass murder.
Furien 11
AllergictoSabres 11
casilu 10
Vendetta Morendo 10
Jack 4
Zynna 2
Solanis 1
Silferras 1
Surely, some of these people have better suggestions than mass murder.
Unknown2009-09-30 06:43:14
Wait! Pause the hate! All the popcorn I had bought I already ate!
I'm fine with Req's plan. Posting more shortly.
I'm fine with Req's plan. Posting more shortly.
Unknown2009-09-30 06:57:56
Actually, thinking about it more, I'm not that on board with the Plan. I'd prefer to just elect Othero and then have a vig NK him. Rather than electing Celina and getting her to finish the lynch on Othero.
Also, with the extra gold, couldn't you just split it evenly? There are more town than mafia, so more of the gold will go to town people than bad people!
Also, with the extra gold, couldn't you just split it evenly? There are more town than mafia, so more of the gold will go to town people than bad people!
Shiri2009-09-30 07:03:01
I don't see that there's any reason to kill Othero unless we're using him to kill someone unlynchable for the purposes of making sure they're town. Electing and then vigging him is a complete waste.
Shiri2009-09-30 07:03:24
Also I don't think you can do any gold-splitting gimmickery like last time, same as with items.
Unknown2009-09-30 07:12:49
Alright, before I actually go away and let things settle, I wanted to apologize to Daganev. You have the rare ability to completely set my teeth on edge.
Most of it is because I spend ridiculous amounts of time thinking about things and making sure that I can clearly articulate what I think is best and why, and you come along, announce that you don't care about anything I've said, and make sweeping accusations against me based on reasoning that I didn't use. And then the other part is that people listen to you. You can convince people to do things based on emotion, rather than logic. It's a completely valid playing style that I've never been good at, so part of me envies the fact that you can make it work for you. Especially since my way only works if people actually read what I say, which they tend not to.
Tomorrow, I can go through and answer all of your questions using only quotes from things I've said in earlier posts. That's why it annoys me so much that you haven't actually read the thread.
I was unnecessarily snide, Daganev, and I apologize. You annoyed me and I got out of line. Can we agree to be civil, at least? (I know this apology had too much explanation, but as we've already established, that's kinda my style.)
Most of it is because I spend ridiculous amounts of time thinking about things and making sure that I can clearly articulate what I think is best and why, and you come along, announce that you don't care about anything I've said, and make sweeping accusations against me based on reasoning that I didn't use. And then the other part is that people listen to you. You can convince people to do things based on emotion, rather than logic. It's a completely valid playing style that I've never been good at, so part of me envies the fact that you can make it work for you. Especially since my way only works if people actually read what I say, which they tend not to.
Tomorrow, I can go through and answer all of your questions using only quotes from things I've said in earlier posts. That's why it annoys me so much that you haven't actually read the thread.
I was unnecessarily snide, Daganev, and I apologize. You annoyed me and I got out of line. Can we agree to be civil, at least? (I know this apology had too much explanation, but as we've already established, that's kinda my style.)
Unknown2009-09-30 07:13:13
Oh, but we can transfer gold, Shiri. Just not items.
Lorick2009-09-30 07:27:59
My drew my speculation Requiem because it was you who decided it was unlikely for there to be an investigator, vig, or resser among the fellowship and brought all three arguements against whatever I suggested. Since you were so certain it was impossible, I could only conclude you were clueless about the roles and/or attempting to mask said roles. Which would of been fine except you were using this negative response to attempt this.. Fiasco.
Ugh, look, if Othero and Celina aren't fair elects, can we at least do this so we don't have anymore claims. Req's already outed a daykill and our revenge bomb over this issue.
Ugh, look, if Othero and Celina aren't fair elects, can we at least do this so we don't have anymore claims. Req's already outed a daykill and our revenge bomb over this issue.
Shiri2009-09-30 07:29:19
Not if he gets vigged though, which was my point.
I guess he could beforehand, but we shouldn't be preparing to kill him anyway.
Also, there mightn't that much point. I started with a multiple of 50....weren't the items last game like that too? If so, an extra 10 gold or whatever each won't help much. (If anyone got some non-round number such a tiny increment would help, I'll concede though.)
I guess he could beforehand, but we shouldn't be preparing to kill him anyway.
Also, there mightn't that much point. I started with a multiple of 50....weren't the items last game like that too? If so, an extra 10 gold or whatever each won't help much. (If anyone got some non-round number such a tiny increment would help, I'll concede though.)
Lorick2009-09-30 07:30:59
Unnominate Othero, Nominate Lorick
It's easier on our power roles this way and much quicker to check. I'm sure people can draw informed opinions about possible lynch targets that don't neccessarily include Othero and result in a fairly certain townie death. Killing one to only power claim another is a loss for us in the long run.
It's easier on our power roles this way and much quicker to check. I'm sure people can draw informed opinions about possible lynch targets that don't neccessarily include Othero and result in a fairly certain townie death. Killing one to only power claim another is a loss for us in the long run.
Lorick2009-09-30 07:40:29
Othero, if you don't have any great concerns, do you mind helping me out here? I don't care about the gold, but this issue is drawing out waaaay too many roles and Req's suggestion, while unique, is no more fool proof than a normal election. I'm up for an investigation anyways, and I'd rather not have the same thing happen this time around as Arix did with Visaeris (Forgot to check the leader). Anyone else except you would potentially divert investigations between me and them and we can't technically prove your power without lynching you, so..
Unknown2009-09-30 07:50:05
I'm not really sure what you are trying to do.
Unknown2009-09-30 08:00:40
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 30 2009, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My drew my speculation Requiem because it was you who decided it was unlikely for there to be an investigator, vig, or resser among the fellowship and brought all three arguements against whatever I suggested. Since you were so certain it was impossible, I could only conclude you were clueless about the roles and/or attempting to mask said roles.
QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Sep 29 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not suggesting anything except that you're making assumptions. All of your plans so far have relied on at least PR that we may or may not have. So they have at least some percentage of failure. As opposed to my plan which can't fail. Either they were telling the truth and the outcome works as I said, or one of them was lying and we just killed mafia.
QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Sep 30 2009, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're the one who keeps saying that I'm not a vig, cop, or rezzer. I never said that. You're making assumptions again without explaining why you're making them. I realize that we have to make some assumptions in order to continue with the game, but at least explain why you're making them so we can decide if they're safe gambles to make or not. Again, you're role fishing. If nothing else, if you can get me to confirm that I'm not
Celina2009-09-30 08:04:47
Well hell.
Now we have Dag flying off the handle.
I won't lie, I can't make heads or tails of this situation.
Now we have Dag flying off the handle.
I won't lie, I can't make heads or tails of this situation.
Unknown2009-09-30 08:05:40
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 30 2009, 03:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Othero, if you don't have any great concerns, do you mind helping me out here? I don't care about the gold, but this issue is drawing out waaaay too many roles and Req's suggestion, while unique, is no more fool proof than a normal election. I'm up for an investigation anyways, and I'd rather not have the same thing happen this time around as Arix did with Visaeris (Forgot to check the leader). Anyone else except you would potentially divert investigations between me and them and we can't technically prove your power without lynching you, so..
QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Sep 29 2009, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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God this is a clusterf**k. People are going crazy. 20 pages in 24 hours. Apart of me thinks the leader thing was a bad idea because it would nudge people to roleclaim on the first day. - And guess what, thats exactly what its done. 4 townies have come forward clamouring for the position, no scum, no shiri. I guess its a fine balance. If I could have found some way to get people talking on the first besides the leader idea I would have rolled with it. I really wanted the SK to get the position. That would have been awesome. I guess the mafia are afraid of drawing too much attention to themselves, same with the SK.
That's all here in Bali's journal entry thing.
QUOTE (B_a_L_i @ Jul 30 2008, 04:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Murderer:
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16.
Enter Deckard. You might seem sane on the outside, but on the inside you're a raging sea of malcontent and hatred. You hate all people. They dare travel through your lands on the way to find some "treasure"??? They dare step on the holy soil you've spent your entire life protecting? They are trespassers. They must die. You have joined this merry fellowship in hopes of killing as many people as you possibly can. You dont care about treasure, all you care about is blood. You have no mystical powers, you dont need them. You win when you have killed 8 people or if you are the last person standing.
Natural Woodsman: A man of the woods, you can scavenge for food, hunt, pathfind, etc.
Innocence: You appear to be just a normal woodsman, and investigations will prove fruitless.
Throat slit: During the night, you can slit someone's throat, killing them.
Bow Shot: Once in the game during the day, you can take aim with your bow and shoot someone, attempting to kill them. (BOW SHOT X)
Local Discount: You get 1/2 off all items in shops.
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16.
Enter Deckard. You might seem sane on the outside, but on the inside you're a raging sea of malcontent and hatred. You hate all people. They dare travel through your lands on the way to find some "treasure"??? They dare step on the holy soil you've spent your entire life protecting? They are trespassers. They must die. You have joined this merry fellowship in hopes of killing as many people as you possibly can. You dont care about treasure, all you care about is blood. You have no mystical powers, you dont need them. You win when you have killed 8 people or if you are the last person standing.
Natural Woodsman: A man of the woods, you can scavenge for food, hunt, pathfind, etc.
Innocence: You appear to be just a normal woodsman, and investigations will prove fruitless.
Throat slit: During the night, you can slit someone's throat, killing them.
Bow Shot: Once in the game during the day, you can take aim with your bow and shoot someone, attempting to kill them. (BOW SHOT X)
Local Discount: You get 1/2 off all items in shops.
Furien2009-09-30 08:09:32
Mmmnnnnhhhhh, just woke up from nightmare, deal with this later.
Arix2009-09-30 09:10:39
QUOTE (Furien @ Sep 30 2009, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mmmnnnnhhhhh, just woke up from nightmare, deal with this later.
It happens. two weeks ago I had a dream that I was drowning in text. Then I woke up and remembered I was playing mafia with Lorick
Arix2009-09-30 09:25:31
Also, Requiem, Daganev's ability to just talk out of his ass and gt people to listen is one of the reasons I always find him scummy, because people like that are dangerous regardless of what side you're on.
Unknown2009-09-30 09:50:29
It's still ridiculously effective. My reasons are infinitely superior to his for everything I do (or at least, my reasons are infinitely more available than his) and yet people fight me tooth and nail every step of the way, and Daganev swoops in from nowhere, yells about me for a bit, and people are all about tying me to the stake.
Like I said. I'm kinda jealous.
Like I said. I'm kinda jealous.
Arix2009-09-30 09:54:38
Yeah, Daganev's ass is charismatic that way.
