Mafia: The Quest (2)

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Unknown2009-10-04 23:53:12
Vote: Jack

I don't know how he plays mafia, but I know he's fairly intelligent. I want to hear what he has to say.
Unknown2009-10-05 01:51:53
QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Oct 4 2009, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would have been nice if you guys had chimed in before we decided to rest. I even brought it up to make sure we thought about it, but everyone decided that only scum would want to have a night period.

A few did. To be fair, the argument was more "Man, something horrible could happen" as opposed to "Man no fun for investigator type roles", but the yes votes went in so fast there really wasn't much time for a long discussion, and no one really seemed to want that anyway, with Arix going so far as to say that if you're in the Fellowship, there's no reason you should not be voting yes. Which... is faulty logic and totally a pressure move, but whatever.
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Oct 2 2009, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know, VERY BAD sounds... Very bad. I assume that if the coin flip lands in our favour we still do a lynch vote and then it's day three right after with a new task? Also, internet is supposed to be connected tomorrow. Yay for no more blackberry reading/typing!



QUOTE (Zetsu @ Oct 2 2009, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, I am kind of wary about this. The gap between very bad and bad can be pretty large in some cases. I'm gonna hold off on my vote until we get a bit more discussion. Also (lol balizar i see what you did there)



QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Oct 2 2009, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know better than to go out with Candy. On the other hand, what happens if you don't have any money left? He kills you outright?

And I know people will think I'm scummy for this since the group consensus is on "yes", but are you guys sure we don't actually want a night? It gives the rest of our roles more time to track down the scum. We actually stand a lot to gain depending on who we have in the game.

I'm not going to actually vote no yet, but I figured we might as well at least consider it.



QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Oct 2 2009, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The cop would. Especially if he has an inno.

But still, I suggested it. I just wanted to make sure someone brought it up. Vote: YES

And ironically, it was your yes vote that pushed the rest day into effect. So, apparently you didn't think it merited much more discussion either, or you didn't want to draw more fire. Either way, it's done now, and we'll just have to deal.
Unknown2009-10-05 02:08:16
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Oct 4 2009, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A few did. To be fair, the argument was more "Man, something horrible could happen" as opposed to "Man no fun for investigator type roles", but the yes votes went in so fast there really wasn't much time for a long discussion, and no one really seemed to want that anyway, with Arix going so far as to say that if you're in the Fellowship, there's no reason you should not be voting yes. Which... is faulty logic and totally a pressure move, but whatever.


Oddly enough, I believe someone (Lorick? I should try to look it up and find it to confirm) also pushed for rest on the basis that the investigator would have another day period to work with. Which would imply they either made a big assumption, or know for certain that someone has an investigative day role power.
Unknown2009-10-05 02:12:02
Oh, nevermind. This seems to be what I remembered.

QUOTE (Shiri @ Oct 2 2009, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm going to go ahead and vote: yes.

Reasons:

3. especially since there's a lot of junk going on during the day that SHOULD generally benefit us more than it doesn't on the basis that there's more of us to spend gold on things like investigations and more townies able to make the more informed group decisions (like day 1's). So if we play our cards correctly, a day is even better than a normal day for town. Night's value undecided.


I'm still confused on the gold = investigations part.
Unknown2009-10-05 02:19:12
Last game there were a couple of items we could buy that gave us investigations. I'm assuming that's what Shiri's talking about.
Unknown2009-10-05 02:34:25
Aha. Nevermind, then. Again.
Shiri2009-10-05 03:44:59
Yeah, what req said. There was more than that too. Heck, Lorick got some info with his gold today. It didn't help much (yet!) but it could have if he'd been on the right track about Celina.

This is dragging on, so I'm gonna unvote vote: Jack. We might lucksack out.
Furien2009-10-05 04:14:12
I was just thinking him. Vote: Jack
Shiri2009-10-05 04:18:46
Although it would also be nice if Rika woke up and said something.
Lorick2009-10-05 04:36:28
Req, you dismissed at various times the town having a vig, investigator, or resser. You also were at one point willing to come forward for being elected leader, which would of been one of the worst places for a doctor to be unless under serious threat of being lynched. This suggests you aren't any of these roles, least to me. If other people don't want to use the subtext, that is fine.

Also, I'd love how you figure I'm an sk with with some sort of multiple day powers, innocence, and a nightkill like you seem to be suggesting. That arguement should be fun to watch.

I don't mind pressing lurkers but why Jack in particular if you don't mind me asking? He put forth some good points when he was present that were at least sensible.
Shiri2009-10-05 04:49:59
Because he only has 5 posts and didn't respond the last time we brought up going after him (or Silferras) for not posting. Silferras got replaced, he didn't.
Unknown2009-10-05 07:57:12
Fair points. I hadn't realized Jack had done so little until the last page when Req posted a post count. I'd say it's time to hear more (MOAR) from him. If a little heat doesn't do it, then I guess we've got someone pretty suspicious on our hands. HOPEFULLY Rika will catch up and start something, too.

VOTE JACK
Unknown2009-10-05 08:01:22
Eh perhaps, I don't know how many votes we have on him, so not gonna vote until later.
Unknown2009-10-05 12:17:38
QUOTE (Lorick @ Oct 5 2009, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Req, you dismissed at various times the town having a vig, investigator, or resser. You also were at one point willing to come forward for being elected leader, which would of been one of the worst places for a doctor to be unless under serious threat of being lynched. This suggests you aren't any of these roles, least to me. If other people don't want to use the subtext, that is fine.

Also, I'd love how you figure I'm an sk with with some sort of multiple day powers, innocence, and a nightkill like you seem to be suggesting. That arguement should be fun to watch.

I don't mind pressing lurkers but why Jack in particular if you don't mind me asking? He put forth some good points when he was present that were at least sensible.


I didn't dismiss it. I said that you didn't know we had one. Very different things.

And yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. That you're a SK with some sort of multiple day powers, innocence, and a nightkill. Was it fun for you too?
Shiri2009-10-05 12:24:20
...that is a huge stretch. FOS: Req.
Lorick2009-10-05 17:19:06
Everything he has been putting forth since plan 3 has been a stretch. This isn't any different. Hell, his arguement about innocence is no different than the one I'm putting forth about his role, yet he supports one and condones the other. Can we at the very least make sure the snail doesn't go to waste? If I knew we were going chase lurkers we wouldn't of needed it.
Celina2009-10-05 21:34:54
QUOTE (Lorick @ Oct 5 2009, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yet he supports one and condones the other.


???
Lorick2009-10-05 21:43:37
He has no basis for the innocence claim other than opinion, and when I express mine about his role he claims I'm poisoning his claim if he was one of those roles, which is exactly the same thing he is doing by calling innocence on someone. Even if there is an investigation, he could claim it was just innocence and we should lynch anyways. His arguements conflict with each other.
Celina2009-10-05 21:44:48
Oh. Condemn, not condone, is what I think you meant.
Zynna2009-10-05 21:45:35
QUOTE (Lorick @ Oct 5 2009, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everything he has been putting forth since plan 3 has been a stretch. This isn't any different. Hell, his arguement about innocence is no different than the one I'm putting forth about his role, yet he supports one and condones the other. Can we at the very least make sure the snail doesn't go to waste? If I knew we were going chase lurkers we wouldn't of needed it.


I don't really understand the argument about not wasting the snail. The snail is only useful if you fear that Req has some sort of harmful day power that you're worried about being used. Who we pressure or ultimately lynch doesn't go to towards the snail's usefulness.

I think both of you are getting somewhat irrational with each other, perhaps because of the mutual pressure you've been placing on each other. Req pointed out that there may not be a rezzer, vig, etc. which was why Req was concerned the plan might not work. On the other hand, I don't think you're SKer, though certainly you've already admitted to having the ability to daykill.